Gape Van Damme
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Okay, cool. They sold bunk HGH. Is that what you're upset about? Did they sell you bunk HGH, juicy? I really couldn't care less... I'm not buying HGH. And yes, you were the only person I saw complain. Now I see that there's more, cool?
And once again, I will repeat that all I did was ask for some vets on this forum to put in some input. What is wrong with that? What stake do you have in this? Are you a competitor that is losing customers? Or are you really that big of a peasant that you're wasting your time trying to get revenge because you lost a few dollars on bunk gear? Go back to your minimum wage job.
Let me first say thay this has been a long fucking day. My girl and are finally laying it down. I slept a few hrs last night ran around when I wasn't working and fit in about 35 min of bar work. Pull ups and dips.
I enjoy my work. It's me and my laptop or tablet and I can work from home or a table in bar a friend owns or just about anywhere I fucking please. I know many of you off the board in one capacity or another.
When I'm online and visiting the 4 sites I'm a presence I find myself moving quickly to get here. I haven't had a chance to check in on this thread much...here goes.
Canesfan and oneswolebro, IMO, are affiliated with legend in some capacity. Exactly how isn't importand and I couldn't care less. What's important is simply knowing they are.
I know legend is elsewhere on other boards from what I understand. Canesfan is talking slick to a member that has picked up the scent of something being not quite right. My dowsing stick starts zeroing in on these 2 as well.
Canes, your argument that u aren't a rep or affiliated in some way is somehow made stronger because u aren't relegated to one board and u will run your mouth at every board they are on is exactly what a shill, rep, or a groupie would do. Your claim to have some inside info about these guys helps solidify the position the member you cracked wise to Is taking and mine as well.
Let me clear things up a bit for any of the new guys that are listening to you and if by some reason that u really believe the shit coming out of your mouth set u straight as well.
Your assertion that legend is supplying raws to a large number of UGL's is absolutely false. They aren't major players. If I was to compare legend to the way MLB and the big leagues to AAA to AA and A ball. They are at best a AAA ball club. I'm assuming in your position you know the big shots in your field. None of them are here. A couple may be at PM. Legend isn't one of them. Having the lowest prices on vials of gear has nothing to do with any lab being a powder supplier and being a supplier it's cheaper for them and therefor they can charge less.
All of these labs are working off huge margins. They have their equipment. They mix up some test and some tren, deca and whatever. The cost of a vial of test prop for the largest volume producer down to the smallest lab with the cook being the same guy answering emails and picking up payment and packing and shipping(a one man show) is approximately $3 as the low cost to maybe $7 on the high end.(and that's a really high cost). See what I'm getting at? Any of these labs could charge $18 for a vial or prop and still have a huge margin/markup. It's not the case that legend is ABLE to come in the lowest. They all could.
Your theory, lie, or story that there are just a few raw suppliers that are supplying most of the UGL;s is not true and is not an accurate description of how things work in the ugl world. If it was, it would be ridiculous for you to say that legend is the big player controlling costs for all because they control the costs to the ugl's who in turn based on their costs charge us.
A more accurate description of what goes on for the big boy...the HIGH volume vendors(not legend and not any of the guys here(naps excluded and excluding any int, source. I'm talking domestic labs/sources) is there being a few cooks that make thousands upon thousands of ml batches that are then sent out and bottled and labeled for sale.
An example using the international sourcre scene is UGF(undergroundfreak) and EK(euroking) being the same owner. This is the truth. When guys buy certain ugl labeled EQ or test E from EK and 2 months later buy dirt cheap EQ and Test e from UGF the could be whacking the same gear from the same batch.
The same goes on here.
There was a bust in the states a while back where a UGL was busted. The lab was resurgence(sp?). They also cooked for a large UGL(in reality a reshipper) that was also on PM and on one of the 4 boards I frequent. He was/is very popular. He has the reputation of having awesome gear. The gear was very good but his service was great and he wasn't cooking a thing. He had labels he was slapping on vials.
You guys see that this brewing isn't as easy as some would have you believe. Sure,,,astro uses a public raw source that any of you could use. But its the process of brewing and a professional presentation that sets guys apart.
Some guys have floaters. Some guys got infections. Underfilling. Standing 5 vials of test e from the same lab side by side and all 5 are filled to different levels? Amateur hour.
Some of you guys know the gear I've been running for the last yr. Some of you are even lucky enough to have some of it. That is a true pro. That's how gear should look...the level consistency is on another level.
He;s been around for more than a decade. His powder source is not legend. I can tell you that without hesitation. I gotta sleep.
This vet has spoken. I fully expect you and caned to come at me sideways. You're feeling pretty good and you both are pretty fucking cocky. That's good. I've got some time to spend on this board tomorrow, Let's have at it. See you tomorrow.
Lab sells bunk gear and the response is "I am not buying that type of gear, so its ok" LOL obvious shill is obvious
Okay, cool. They sold bunk HGH. Is that what you're upset about? Did they sell you bunk HGH, juicy? I really couldn't care less... I'm not buying HGH. And yes, you were the only person I saw complain. Now I see that there's more, cool?
And once again, I will repeat that all I did was ask for some vets on this forum to put in some input. What is wrong with that? What stake do you have in this? Are you a competitor that is losing customers? Or are you really that big of a peasant that you're wasting your time trying to get revenge because you lost a few dollars on bunk gear? Go back to your minimum wage job.
Lab sells bunk gear and the response is "I am not buying that type of gear, so its ok" LOL obvious shill is obvious
Hey juicy you picking fights again with the big boys? Hey why don't you contribute something worth while? How about a blood work ? Or say pics of your gear? Do you even know what Hyges are?
Or ask mom for some allowance and buy a Labmax kit and test something HMMM. Wait that's right you are a skinny little kid with a lack of respect that just learned the word SHILL. Now put up or shut up. Let us grown ups discuss our affairs. I believe there is a Miley forum somewhere NEWBIE .
WHOAA...first off I took advantage of Legends free samples..Im just hoping its not underdosed but ive read in other post with blood reports of a gram a week and test was in the 3000 range when I read it should clearly be in the 4000 to 5000 range (im not quite sure what that means so don't attack me lol)
Also I did receive it but it took a month cause of that stupid Chinese New year...
Anton was very good at all email responses...but the fact is if they sold some bunk HGH then there credibility is not so reputable with me now, regardless if everything else is good. I have a labmax kit and it tested gtg but don't know if its underdosed.
Juicy also pasted links on the company selling other bunk stuff...but I don't want to bother registering and checking up with another website.
1)If there are any tarnishes or serious dispute...I jus move on to another UGL.
2)AND CMON...comments said like that swellbro makes you obviously look like a shill..."complaining you lost a few bucks" and "thats not the gear im taking" (so its ok) wtf ID BE PISSED as fuck!!
the only questionable thing is does juicy have a personal vendetta idk doubt it..
(now the shills are going to jump on that)
Lab sells bunk gear and the response is "I am not buying that type of gear, so its ok" LOL obvious shill is obvious
This vet has spoken. I fully expect you and caned to come at me sideways. You're feeling pretty good and you both are pretty fucking cocky. That's good. I've got some time to spend on this board tomorrow, Let's have at it. See you tomorrow.
When reviewing a source it's really cut and dry:
1. Customer service good or bad
2. Timely good or bad
3. Received product yes or no
4. Legit product inside?
5. Did it work!
6 In your opinion gtg?
but we always get this story..." well this guys dads brothers uncle ordered and it took x amount of time and he said they didn't work too good" or " This guy said his Kits were bunk" Really imagine that kits from that part of the world being fake!? HA! who would have thought!
Read my reply above. Quality/Legitimacy of HGH isn't indicative of the rest of a UGLs gear. If you've been around long enough, you know this. Now don't take this as me saying that Legends gear is legit/properly dosed- I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that bunk HGH does not equal bunk everything else.
My point with that is that there are plenty of UGLs who sell bunk HGH, and whether it's intentional or not, I don't know. All I know is that I've bought HGH from UGLs in the past that have turned out bunk, but their other gear has been legit and well-dosed (based on bloods). I just don't get involved in the whole HGH scene anymore. Too many fakes that go around. So I was just saying that based on my past experiences... I just don't like to count out a source because of their HGH. And as I've said... I've been burned before with the HGH. Yeah I was pissed at first, but you can't let that stuff get to you. Being a part of this you just have to understand that you're most likely going to get screwed over at some point and that's why I like Meso to try to limit that risk.
Read my reply above. Quality/Legitimacy of HGH isn't indicative of the rest of a UGLs gear. If you've been around long enough, you know this. Now don't take this as me saying that Legends gear is legit/properly dosed- I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that bunk HGH does not equal bunk everything else.
Ben- I was not trying to come off as cocky. I just don't appreciate being called out as a shill by someone who, to my knowledge, has not brought anything productive to these boards (juicy). I've read around these forums here and there for the past few years and have always enjoyed reading your posts. For a non-censored board, you need someone like you to lay down the law, and I know that the community here appreciates that. But I literally don't have anything to argue with you about. If you believe that I'm a shill, I've been around long enough to know that you're pretty stubborn in your ways and will most likely not change your views. Nothing I can do about that, right?
Can we stop with this childish nonsense and get back to the fucking topic, and Juicy if you don't have anything relevant to contribute go away.
Can we stop with this childish nonsense and get back to the fucking topic, and Juicy if you don't have anything relevant to contribute go away.
join date jan 2014, 14 posts gtfo faggot. ur post is more irrelevant than a picture of a person taking a shit at this point.
WTF...like I don't understand why shills keep writing long novels...cause swell if your not a shill then what your saying is stupid as fuck...for arguments sake..I don't care if a UGL has products that are stupendously good...if one or some of there products are bunk...THEN FUCK THAT!!
And most likely a ugl that sells a bunk product, there other products are probably not so good either. I mean if your a legit company and your products are really really good, then why would you sell one that's fake and now have a customer who is pissed off over that...not good business...your responses this whole time makes you look like an idiot cause your on the defending side. Im just saying I hope you are a shill cause what your saying in defense is kinda stupid..
Since your comment was so intelligent I decided to respond with the same level of IQ to each and every one of your questions.
1) If big boys means shills then yes.
2) I have, please read.
3) I haven't injected legends, please read.
4) The gear is gone, please read.
5) Yes, please read.
6) My mom never gave me allowance, I worked for all my success and money.
I can tell you weren't brought up the same way.
7) Can't comprehend the stupidity, error.
8) The fact that you referenced Miley tells me you are a kid, please hit puberty.
If you have trouble counting so you know what answer corresponds with what question please let me know, I can colour code them like they used to do to puzzles in kindergarten.
Lmao if you know the gear you want is "stupendously good", then why would you care if any of the other products are bunk? This response makes no sense. And what I'm saying is stupid as fuck? [)]
And as for the second part, they don't always know that their products are bunk. Legit HGH isn't easy to find these days. Can't forget that although UGLs are our suppliers, they have their suppliers too. They're as likely to get screwed as we are. But I'm just talking about a general case, by no means am I defending Legend. Whether it was a mistake or on purpose, who the fuck knows? I don't think any of us can necessarily make that judgement.
Also, I'm not defending anyone. I'm just defending my views which is pointless and off-topic to the discussion.
