Old man tren update

[Dial It In]

Yessir I'm still having no sides from 50 mg eod of tren ace along with Mast and Test. My 20 year old self wants to push to 60 EOD but I'm going to leave well enough alone. Getting great results and pushing up would not provide any incremental gain that is worth the sides.

And yes it's pretty important to use an accurately dosed acetate prep when assessing tolerance.

Are you planning to run it with just test or also with a DHT?

I’m going to run with test and mast. 20 years ago I made the mistake of listening to an Austrian fellow when I was overseas and did a tren only cycle. I think a lot of us have figured out a little tren goes a long ways. You don’t need 400-500 a week. This is a delayed gratification hobby and running cycles should be as smart as possible to control sides best we can. There is no such thing as I handle tren well. Yes my sides are minimal compared to others I hear about but still there and some things can’t be reversed no matter how much peptides and pharma you use. It’s crazy how social media has driven people to be so reckless with tren and AAS in general.

 

[RockyP]

I’m going to run with test and mast. 20 years ago I made the mistake of listening to an Austrian fellow when I was overseas and did a tren only cycle. I think a lot of us have figured out a little tren goes a long ways. You don’t need 400-500 a week. This is a delayed gratification hobby and running cycles should be as smart as possible to control sides best we can. There is no such thing as I handle tren well. Yes my sides are minimal compared to others I hear about but still there and some things can’t be reversed no matter how much peptides and pharma you use. It’s crazy how social media has driven people to be so reckless with tren and AAS in general.

I agree - i've always been very gullible if you want to call it that, and I believed Dorian Yates and his brethren when they said they never went over 2 to 3 amps of parabolan per week. So 175 is more than enough for my old ass

 

[BigDadd7]

100 e per week. Has been good to me. I won't push it higher.

 

[RockyP]

Just wanted to add that I was reviewing my log book and over the past month since starting tren (which began at 20 mg daily and ramped up to currently 50) my fat loss has accelerated quite a bit (averaging 3 lbs per week) despite an increase in daily caloric intake by roughly 300-400 cals per day. No change in output. The only other change was an increase in Reta from 4 to 5 mg which obviously confounds the data a bit, but I’ve been on a deficit with GLP-1’s on board since summer time and both visually and on the scale it seems like since adding in the Tren even at these lower dosages the cut just ramped up exponentially. Even within the first week to 10 days the visual changes were pretty dramatic. I don’t think I’ll ever run more than 150-175 per week. Next time I may attempt something like Tren hex 100 mg alongside test and either primo or mast but see if I can tolerate it for a longer duration.

 

[Eddie.]

Just wanted to add that I was reviewing my log book and over the past month since starting tren (which began at 20 mg daily and ramped up to currently 50) my fat loss has accelerated quite a bit (averaging 3 lbs per week) despite an increase in daily caloric intake by roughly 300-400 cals per day. No change in output. The only other change was an increase in Reta from 4 to 5 mg which obviously confounds the data a bit, but I’ve been on a deficit with GLP-1’s on board since summer time and both visually and on the scale it seems like since adding in the Tren even at these lower dosages the cut just ramped up exponentially. Even within the first week to 10 days the visual changes were pretty dramatic. I don’t think I’ll ever run more than 150-175 per week. Next time I may attempt something like Tren hex 100 mg alongside test and either primo or mast but see if I can tolerate it for a longer duration.

50 daily or eod?

 

[RockyP]

50 daily or eod?

EOD - typo in original post. Started 20 mg EOD and now up to 50 mg eod.

 

[Eddie.]

Oh, ok! I remember you were close to ramp it up and wanted to see if the tren thoughts won, but you're hanging tight haha.

I'm running 30 a day now and that's the most i've gone, honestly i'd prefer to stay at 20-30 a day for longer period than going 50+ a day and run it shorter. The only downside is the ester, i'll have to man up sometime and switch to hex or enanthate.

 

[RockyP]

Oh, ok! I remember you were close to ramp it up and wanted to see if the tren thoughts won, but you're hanging tight haha.

I'm running 30 a day now and that's the most i've gone, honestly i'd prefer to stay at 20-30 a day for longer period than going 50+ a day and run it shorter. The only downside is the ester, i'll have to man up sometime and switch to hex or enanthate.

My BP is right on the cusp of starting to bump up a bit so I’m staying right here and don’t ever see myself going beyond this weekly dosage.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Early 40's. I ran quite a bit of tren in my 20's but then took 15 years off from gear. I dont think there's any age restriction, though anecdotally some users find they get more sensitive to tren as they age? idk, I feel like that's very nebulous and dependent upon a myriad of non-quantifiable things.

I'm around 230 - 235 lbs now, and the 50 mg eod feels like plenty. As far as what I mean by plenty - I trained legs yesterdday for just under 2 hours. Top sets included Hack Squats 5 plates per side, Leg Press as much as it could hold, RDL's at 405, and all the usual isolation exercises with intensifiers. And I did this all on a grand total of 2100 calories. That was an unusually low day, but this kind of thing just isnt possible without tren.

The only thing I will add is that it's possible that using it alongside masteron is mitigating some side effects. I don't ever intend to run tren without mast or some other DHT, so it's a moot point for me. I think if you don't have your E2 dialed in, adding a 19-nor like tren or nandrolone is playing with fire in terms of side effects.

We're close in age. I'm noticing similar results with tren in a deficit. I've been running test/tren/var or anadrol preworkout. I wanted to give myself a break from the tren and see if npp would give similar results. It does not. I'm holding more water and gym performance is down. I bumped up the test and npp and still it isn't giving the same performance. Bumped up the test again. Still not the same. And of course high test and npp come with a bump in BP so then you have to manage that. I'm just glad we've found you don't need a lot of tren for good results. I was running 250mg tren e and 500mg test. Ran my experiment with 500 test/300npp. Then 750 test/400npp

 

[Cyp180]

40, old man ?
What am I with 56 ?

 

[RockyP]

40, old man ?
What am I with 56 ?

Experienced.

 

[RockyP]

We're close in age. I'm noticing similar results with tren in a deficit. I've been running test/tren/var or anadrol preworkout. I wanted to give myself a break from the tren and see if npp would give similar results. It does not. I'm holding more water and gym performance is down. I bumped up the test and npp and still it isn't giving the same performance. Bumped up the test again. Still not the same. And of course high test and npp come with a bump in BP so then you have to manage that. I'm just glad we've found you don't need a lot of tren for good results. I was running 250mg tren e and 500mg test. Ran my experiment with 500 test/300npp. Then 750 test/400npp

You can prob get away with even less tren. I really like it paired with mast also. Not necessarily for performance but mostly for aesthetics.