On testosterone and anavar. Going to add some Deca. How should I adjust testosterone and/or anavar, if at all?

[deeoeraclea]

When I am on 140 mg/week of testosterone cypionate (administered sub-Q every other day). At this dose my total test is around 1250 ng/dL and (calculated) free test is at 27 ng/dL.

Right now, in addition to 140 mg/week of test, I am on 20 mg/day of anavar. My total test is now at 700 ng/dL and (calculated) free test is at 24 ng/dL. The anavar seems to lower my SHBG a lot.

Oeverall, I feel good on just testosterone alone and also when I combine test and anavar. I have no noticeable side effects (no hair thinning, oily skin or nipple sensitivity). And my LDL and blood pressure are in the normal range. Estrogen is high normal.

I'm going to add in 70 mg/week of Deca (administered sub-Q every other day) in order to help alleviate some joint pain in my right knee, which has been going on for months. MRI and X-ray doesn't show any serious cartilage, meniscus or ligament damage. But, there's a lot of extra fluid indicating some inflammation. I've already tried PT, and PRP without any improvement.

My question is: how should I adjust the anavar and/or test when I add in the Deca? My goals are
-- get some pain relief in my knee from the Deca
-- avoid introducing androgenic or estrogenic side effects (thinning hair, oily skin, nipple sensitivity, etc.)
-- maintain or increase anabolic effects

My MD suggested lowering testosterone dose from 140 mg/week to 70 mg/week to account for the 70 mg/week of Deca I am adding. But, my plan was to just add in the Deca without adjusting my testosterone or anavar dose and just see how I feel.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

PS I'm not looking for suggestion on how to deal with my knee pain. I am already attacking that problem from a number of different angles. I really just want advice on how to adjust the test and anavar when adding in the deca.

 

[NotHuman]

That's sweet brother, unfortunately 150mg NPP don't do jackshit for my joints, i'm actually feeling worse in that matter. Maybe because since i added anadrol too i lift heavier.. If the brand wasn't reputable i'd think it might be something else or straight oil.

I only chose deca over NPP because there are a lot of anecdotal reports of people saying they get better joint relief on deca. I only used NPP once about 12 years ago when I was in my 20s and didn’t have any joint pain, so I can’t personally compare them properly.

I was really getting more and more joint pain (and pain in general) so I decided to put 200mg deca in a new cycle and it eliminated all that within a couple of weeks. I’m dropping my dose down to 100mg now.

 

[Eddie.]

I only chose deca over NPP because there are a lot of anecdotal reports of people saying they get better joint relief on deca. I only used NPP once about 12 years ago when I was in my 20s and didn’t have any joint pain, so I can’t personally compare them properly.

I was really getting more and more joint pain (and pain in general) so I decided to put 200mg deca in a new cycle and it eliminated all that within a couple of weeks. I’m dropping my dose down to 100mg now.

Yes, that is true. I've read these anecdotal reports too but i wanted to first dabble with NPP since it's my first time with a 19nor, in case i wanted to bail out quickly. So far no sides but not positives as well. Dose is low obviously but i was running already test and EQ and wanted NPP for a little extra nitrogen retention and joint relief.

 

[NotHuman]

Yes, that is true. I've read these anecdotal reports too but i wanted to first dabble with NPP since it's my first time with a 19nor, in case i wanted to bail out quickly. So far no sides but not positives as well. Dose is low obviously but i was running already test and EQ and wanted NPP for a little extra nitrogen retention and joint relief.

You could try switching to deca. I doubt you’ll get sides on a low dose.

 

[WildCat2000]

I’m not a medical professional, but from what I’ve read and experienced, adding Deca could be a good choice for joint pain relief, and it’s great that you're being proactive about it.

As for adjusting the testosterone and anavar when you add Deca, I’d say that balancing everything can be a bit tricky. Your MD's suggestion to reduce the testosterone makes sense to avoid potential overload on the system, but if you’re feeling fine with your current test and anavar dose, you could stick with it and see how your body reacts.

You’ll want to keep monitoring your blood work closely, though, to ensure you’re not pushing your estrogen or androgen levels too high.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Deca was a complete game changer for my joints. I’ll be on it the rest of my life. 75mg is supposed to be enough for those benefits but I wouldn’t really expect much anabolism from that dose.

Same here except I only needed 50mg. Took a while to take effect, but it worked wonders and the benefits lasted long after I stopped the Deca