On a side note....this was his 5th week of running this.
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That works out to 315mg a week. If he were to catch it right at the peak you might hope for 9 to 1 or around 2800. 48 hours after the pin, I'd guess you should see somewhere between 5 and 7 to 1, 1550 to 2200.
jymis
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I think based on Dr. Scally's observations you would like to see 2520-3150 on a 315/week average.
I agree with Jymis. If the dosage is correct that seems about right.
a 10:1 ratio is based on catching the peak level of a once a week pin. Pinning every 5 days will yield a smaller peak than every 7 days, and 48 hours will be long after the peak.
One guys blood work will not be conclusive, and hopefully more people will be posting bloods. Better yet, people with a history of doing bloods that they can compare results to.
This is not much over TRT doses. I don't know if the numbers would be quite as high as that. I'm thinking like Burr....possibly between 1500 and 1800, and that may be a generous number. This person is a 6'2" 310 pound powerlifter. His size could skew the results somewhat...
The size of the guy is bound to play a role to some degree. If the average male has about 5 liters of blood and weighs 175 pounds, how many liters of blood would a 310 pound guy have? http://reference.medscape.com/calculator/estimated-blood-volume
Since the test is measure as a weight/ volume (ng/dl), it is bound to impact the results.
I couldn't tell you how much though. Something to think about.
jymis
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I would be super pissed to get barely over normal levels injecting that much Test every week. A TRT dose by a real Dr. is 100 to 150 mg a week at most. Only these Anti Anging clinics seem to prescribe anything higher than that. I don't think they are looking for your peak to be in the normal range either just the nadir. 315mg a week is hardly "barely above a TRT dose" its a full on cycle albeit a minor one.
Luckily this is 'Murica and we can have different opinions, and thats all this is, because neither of us can back anything up. Other then I do have blood work showing 120mg/week 102 hours post injection put me right at 600ng/dl thats 5 times the dosage still way past peak. That of course ws Watson Cyp from my Dr. Also that being right at the half life I feel pretty safe saying my peak was damn close to 1200 on that 120.
You guys are getting nutty and trying to muddy up the waters again it seems. 8-10x rule has been documented and there are plenty of bloods out there to back it up as well as the experience of Dr. Scally. You guys pull excuses out of your asses as to why it would not be that even before it is tested. The main reason a bathtub brew would not be in that range would be that it wasn't the dosage they think it is due to loss in brewing and starting with crappy powders in the first place.
Just because someone does the math and comes up with what he thinks is 250mg a cc doesn't make it so. I totally agree that it would be nice to have quite a few blood tests to pull a composite from, but i don't know if size plays much of a role at all. Until i see some documentation where it does i'll stick to the 8-10x rule.
Guys that are brewing should probably wash the powder to start with like was being discussed in the shady business thread. That would be a good start at least. Maybe get rid of some of the crap you don't want that was carried forward with each chemistry step in the process. If you believe the crap they send with the powders that shows it is 98% pure then i think you are kidding yourself.
Just because someone does the math and comes up with what he thinks is 250mg a cc doesn't make it so. I totally agree that it would be nice to have quite a few blood tests to pull a composite from, but i don't know if size plays much of a role at all. Until i see some documentation where it does i'll stick to the 8-10x rule.
Guys that are brewing should probably wash the powder to start with like was being discussed in the shady business thread. That would be a good start at least. Maybe get rid of some of the crap you don't want that was carried forward with each chemistry step in the process. If you believe the crap they send with the powders that shows it is 98% pure then i think you are kidding yourself.
Johnson513
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I'm not only confused over this volume thing now, but also the peak timing for a once a week injection. Is this more smoke and mirror shit, or what?
Yep, I wouldn't come to any conclusions after one guys blood work, unless it is well outside the norm. If your 310 lb friend has a history of getting bloods done 48 hours after a pin, then we have something good to work with.
I've got a routine of doing bloods 24 hours after biweekly pins, so my results can give me an apples to apples comparison.
We'll just have to wait and see what they come in at, and commence to arguing over the results.
I've got a routine of doing bloods 24 hours after biweekly pins, so my results can give me an apples to apples comparison.
We'll just have to wait and see what they come in at, and commence to arguing over the results.
BIGMESC
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Cool post, I didn't realize how much blood we have in us.
I got 6 liters, that would make quite a mess.
ruckin
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I have 8.5 liters. Do I win?
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Results:
The company who tested is MMC which some of you may be aware are the labmax company.
The company who tested is MMC which some of you may be aware are the labmax company.
Johnson513
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Dude... Seriously? 99% pure?
Mr. Deltoid
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I don't buy that any ugl is receiving 99% pure raws . That's some pie in the sky bullshit.
Wow. No adulterant and hardly any bi-products..
Marcus
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Hahaha, sounds like this lab doesn't know what it's doing
What do you guys make of this @Dr JIM @flenser @lightspan
What do you guys make of this @Dr JIM @flenser @lightspan
One Pharma
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To be honest I wish the results had come back somewhere in the 80's because it is believable. 99.1% is a stretch even for me. I Would love to believe it, but I will leave this analysis to someone more versed in GC/MS than I am.
However, this company has a reputation to uphold and I would be surprised if they were performing innacurate tests of any kind.
However, this company has a reputation to uphold and I would be surprised if they were performing innacurate tests of any kind.
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