OneQ HGH

[TrennedOutLunatic]

you're wasting money on this gh

Apparently.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Here is what I mean about IGF and low carbs. 12.07 was the natural lever of IGF without the diet. Results after it on a diet with low carbs (low in his case is a 150g)
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Here is GH serumView attachment 138369


But it's a very individual thing. I think now laboratory will be a best judge

You consider 150g carbs to be low enough to fuck with igf production?

This got to be a joke.

 

[OneQ]

Regarding the side effects,I may even be fooling myself since I have never had previous experience with hgh. No one is placebo-proof.
Sure thing is that I had some pain in the fingers. That's for sure,no doubt.
I see the gh serum but can't comment on it at all. Is this number possible without hgh? No clue. After all we have no baseline for hgh. Huge mistake and lesson learned.
Regarding carbs.. we both are good on carbs. We don't run zero carb diets anything like that. She is healthy..absolutely healthy and she wasn't taking any steroids.

But please,keep in mind that I am not spending anything on this analysis. Plus lab4tox is available and trustworthy enough. If anyone disagrees, I would like to know.

Janoshik is out of question no doubt.

Let's test in Lab4tox then. No problem
1 sample just already sent in Lab4Tox and we will compare both

You consider 150g carbs to be low enough to fuck with igf production?

This got to be a joke.

I'm fucked up this. This infor was in russian chat and about 150cars wrote another guy. Not who take GH in this period
Sorry for that mistake

 

[OneQ]

you're wasting money on this gh

Very easy to talk that it's shit based on 1 single analysis
Actually we don't know real reason of this. Laboratory mistake is not possible here ? Or they just wrote something without actual analysis. I saw that, only once in Ireland, but there is still a chance

It's easy to talk if testosterone is a shit when you inject testosteron and it shows 0 (again if laboratory did the analysis)
Now laboratory will show.

And if it's shit - so we will compensate

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Let's test in Lab4tox then. No problem
1 sample just already sent in Lab4Tox and we will compare both


I'm fucked up this. This infor was in russian chat and about 150cars wrote another guy. Not who take GH in this period
Sorry for that mistake

I would put a bet on the problem being that the particular hgh is already reconstituted and was damaged somehow. I for one put it straight in the refrigerator once I got it.
If the guy is a member of the forum ask him to step in front.

Suggest.

 

[OneQ]

I would put a bet on the problem being that the particular hgh is already reconstituted and was damaged somehow. I for one put it straight in the refrigerator once I got it.
If the guy is a member of the forum ask him to step in front.

Suggest.

The only reason why I don't think so is that GH serum on a high level.
And delivery time was not so big to ruin GH + temperature outside not so heat

I wrote you in pm to retest IGF in some other laboratory at our charge just to see. May be this is not the reason

And laboratory now more than actual

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

The only reason why I don't think so is that GH serum on a high level.
And delivery time was not so big to ruin GH + temperature outside not so heat

I wrote you in pm to retest IGF in some other laboratory at our charge just to see. May be this is not the reason

And laboratory now more than actual

Yes yes I saw your message and as I told you, the problem is that she stopped the hgh right after the test. She still has bruises and cannot handle it. It's been a week plus.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

So,how are we going to go about this?

I for one am not paying for the HPLC analysis, and also not want store credit.
If the stuff is bunk,suggest how you will compensate.
I can have a vial sent asap.

 

[OneQ]

So,how are we going to go about this?

I for one am not paying for the HPLC analysis, and also not want store credit.
If the stuff is bunk,suggest how you will compensate.
I can have a vial sent asap.

In any case I still would ask you to send sample in the laboratory once first one will be there and we will see their method. It was shipped from Belarus guy so he is not on forum. In any case both samples from the same batch and we will see the deifference. If your will be much more less than he sent - we will have a reason to think that it could be ruined during transportation from us to EU store or/and from EU store to you.
In that case will ask you to ask laboratory to check degradeted proteins (GH can't just desapear). And if there is no degradeted proteins and concentration will be much less in your sample - I will make something internally because it would be very interested for me.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

In any case I still would ask you to send sample in the laboratory once first one will be there and we will see their method. It was shipped from Belarus guy so he is not on forum. In any case both samples from the same batch and we will see the deifference. If your will be much more less than he sent - we will have a reason to think that it could be ruined during transportation from us to EU store or/and from EU store to you.
In that case will ask you to ask laboratory to check degradeted proteins (GH can't just desapear). And if there is no degradeted proteins and concentration will be much less in your sample - I will make something internally because it would be very interested for me.

I am confused.
I think that transportation could easily be the problem.
My main point is that I am not paying for the analysis. After that you mention some stuff regarding degraded proteins and so on. Just PM me what to tell them word by word,I will literally copy paste it. Or write it here in public.

 

[daddytom]

hey,where do you ship from?I mean the original location.

 

[OneQ]

I am confused.
I think that transportation could easily be the problem.
My main point is that I am not paying for the analysis. After that you mention some stuff regarding degraded proteins and so on. Just PM me what to tell them word by word,I will literally copy paste it. Or write it here in public.

We will pay, that's nothing to discuss 100%
Just HPLC for concetration at this point and keep the vial till they send results. I'm sure that all will be OK

hey,where do you ship from?I mean the original location.

Product fully produced in Russia

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

We will pay, that's nothing to discuss 100%
Just HPLC for concetration at this point and keep the vial till they send results. I'm sure that all will be OK

Product fully produced in Russia

Solid.

I am getting in contact with lab4tox.

 

[OneQ]

Here is something about how is the sensetive IGF in our body
@TrennedOutLunatic not linked to your wife, just to global understanding

https://www.eroids.com/pics/igf1-for-mgt-pro

https://www.eroids.com/pics/how-to-increase-igfmgt-bloodwork

Here is what inside:

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Here is something about how is the sensetive IGF in our body
@TrennedOutLunatic not linked to your wife, just to global understanding

https://www.eroids.com/pics/igf1-for-mgt-pro

https://www.eroids.com/pics/how-to-increase-igfmgt-bloodwork

Here is what inside:
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I don't fully get the point you are trying to make.
I for one have been off everything for 1 month. And that includes trt test and everything else.
I will soon be in pct.
Except from hcg which I stopped before 1 week in order not to fuck with the igf bloodtest that I would be doing today.

Conversation between me you and lab4tox has already been opened.

Full transparency regarding everything.

 

[OneQ]

I don't fully get the point you are trying to make.
I for one have been off everything for 1 month. And that includes trt test and everything else.
I will soon be in pct.
Except from hcg which I stopped before 1 week in order not to fuck with the igf bloodtest that I would be doing today.

Conversation between me you and lab4tox has already been opened.

Full transparency regarding everything.

Just some other case I remember when I saw bad IGF last time. We discussed a lot with this guy and he did all the things.

It's absolutely not linked to your situation.
Each situation should be studied step by step

In your case best way to check product in the laboratory. No doubt
And we will make decision based on what we see. It will be good for the future to have an expirience.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Just some other case I remember when I saw bad IGF last time. We discussed a lot with this guy and he did all the things.

It's absolutely not linked to your situation.
Each situation should be studied step by step

In your case best way to check product in the laboratory. No doubt
And we will make decision based on what we see. It will be good for the future to have an expirience.

We are good for now.
As I told you the conversation is up,it includes you+lab4tox and me.
I asked for qualitative,quantitative and dimmer content price and I am waiting for an answer.

 

[M@NU]

thanks trennedoutlunatic that you take the steps to bring some light in this case.
i will also try to get an igf test next week friday (11 days post starting)
i am on gel trt but that should not scew the igf value too much..
i dont have a baseline but with 4iu daily it should definitely be out of range..

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

thanks trennedoutlunatic that you take the steps to bring some light in this case.
i will also try to get an igf test next week friday (11 days post starting)
i am on gel trt but that should not scew the igf value too much..
i dont have a baseline but with 4iu daily it should definitely be out of range..

And I thank you for your good words. I am doing this for everyone and I wouldn't bother with it at all if Alex would try bullshitting and just talking with no action. Guy believes in his product and he is way too straightforward as it seems. I cannot pass up on this. It's in everyone's best interest to have a good EU source with reasonable prices like his. This has the potential to provide the community with solid product and him more business.
If he fucked up,he will compensate as he said. Otherwise he knows that's he's pretty much fucked here since everything is public.

Now regarding what you can do,as sempei said,do your bloodtest at 21 days or both at 14 and 21 if you can handle it financially and why not include a hgh serum blood test as well.
This will even shed more light.
Also,why not pin once subcutaneously, or twice...just to see if the welts that are being caused to me and my wife is something exclusively subcutaneous. Pay attention to local temperature,itchiness,duration and size of welt in case it occurs.

Overall his handling indicates that guy has balls and I greatly appreciate that. And if he proves himself on this one he will have my business for sure and not only mine as I have 2-3 irl friends asking me for a good eu hgh source already.

 

[OneQ]

thanks trennedoutlunatic that you take the steps to bring some light in this case.
i will also try to get an igf test next week friday (11 days post starting)
i am on gel trt but that should not scew the igf value too much..
i dont have a baseline but with 4iu daily it should definitely be out of range..

It would be great
Also @TrennedOutLunatic will make IGF test


BTW, I didn't research this quetion a lot. But as we know estrogen have a big impact on IGF producing.
That's what I found

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/85/3/1121/2660677

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10442572/

May be, just may be 14 days was not enough for woman to achive good level of IGF because of cycle and unstable estrogen leve (or estrogen was on very high level few days before blood and IGF ruined). It's very interesting things, never thought about it