Opinion on test,NPP and primo?

[Handy-jezza]

As above, what’s your experience if you’ve used these together?

The only caveat is the volume of oil weekly.
NPP I haven’t used…is MWF sufficient?
I ran primo at 400-450 which was 3 ml pw last blast. No biggie.
With NPP at 300mg pw, this would be another 3 ml pw.
Along with 300-400 test which would be another 2ml.
8ml of gear pw isn’t much to some of you but in my opinion it’s a lot.
Maybe microdosing ed subq?
The reason for choosing these compounds is
Test (base) primo (dht) NPP (19nor)
The e2 lowering effects of primo would be minimal if I match the test dose (worked last time)
(Would the addition of NPP help keep the e2 stable?)
I’d like to keep total intake under 1g pw.
I don’t intend on using an orals for this blast at this point?
16 weeks ideally if bloods look reasonable at week 12. Anyone stretched a cycle like this out to 18-20 weeks?

Thanks for reading all.

 

[jdubzzz44]

I like to pin Ed no matter what I’m taking. Keeps all compounds stable, no peaks or lows. I mix whatever I’m taking in a bigger syringe and backfeed insulin pins for the week. This would limit 7cc a week if you wanted just inject once a day so you’d have to figure something out there but even if you had to pin 2 insulin pins one day that’s no big deal

 

[Sector]

Do you already have the NPP? Might be better to just run deca for your goal, If you want less oil and less frequent pins.

The test and primo logic for E2 seems solid.

You can easily stretch it to 16-20 weeks, especially if you're using deca which takes time to saturate. Still not a bad idea to pull bloods around week 12 to check lipids

 

[Fattyone]

Didn’t you already make this thread?

 

[Handy-jezza]

Hey sector, I do indeed. the NPP 120mg/ml,
I considered deca but with no prior experience I wanted to use NPP just incase I never got on.
I did also consider a mid cycle switch but is that likely to cause issue?
I could also just get hold of 200mg ml NPP.
Would cut oil volume down a bit of course.
When we spoke on my other thread I said about the prior use of primo. I would rather use primo over A.i. So that’s a reason why it’s included.
As for primo, I have only used 150mg ml.
Probably be more beneficial to get some 200, brings oil down again.
Might be a bit pippy though.

 

[Handy-jezza]

Didn’t you already make this thread?

Similar. Different compounds though mate.

 

[Sector]

Hey sector, I do indeed. the NPP 120mg/ml,
I considered deca but with no prior experience I wanted to use NPP just incase I never got on.
I did also consider a mid cycle switch but is that likely to cause issue?
I could also just get hold of 200mg ml NPP.
Would cut oil volume down a bit of course.
When we spoke on my other thread I said about the prior use of primo. I would rather use primo over A.i. So that’s a reason why it’s included.
As for primo, I have only used 150mg ml.
Probably be more beneficial to get some 200, brings oil down again.
Might be a bit pippy though.

NPP makes more sense if you've never used nandrolone before, 100%. You can adjust your dosage much quicker, or drop it quickly if the sides should get unmanageable, so that part makes sense.

Hate to say it, but you'll probably have to pin EOD, not just m/w/f with NPP. Doing eod will also reduce the amount of oil you'll have to do per shot, so that you're not having to shoot 2.5ML+ per shot. (Imagine shooting 3ml of oil into your delt? Probably wouldn't be fun)

Keep an AI and caber on hand, just incase you do get estrogen/prolactin sides. The primo should keep the estrogen sides in check, but having an AI as a backup is always a good measure

 

[ripper908]

I like to pin Ed no matter what I’m taking. Keeps all compounds stable, no peaks or lows. I mix whatever I’m taking in a bigger syringe and backfeed insulin pins for the week. This would limit 7cc a week if you wanted just inject once a day so you’d have to figure something out there but even if you had to pin 2 insulin pins one day that’s no big deal

how long does it take to inject with an insulin pin? thinking of trying them

I use a 23 and have tried a 25 before but the 25 took forever to get out so i stuck with 23

 

[jdubzzz44]

how long does it take to inject with an insulin pin? thinking of trying them

I use a 23 and have tried a 25 before but the 25 took forever to get out so i stuck with 23

very fast I never timed it but like 10-20 seconds for a 1cc 29g. I inject IM into quads zero pip I rotate sides sometimes I can’t even tell which side I pinned the day before

 

[focal]

I am about to use the same compounds for a cycle. Is there a ratio that you are following between the Test and NPP like 1:1 and then the primo? I have been running test and primo, started at 2:1 but then went 1:1 and seem to have had better results. I want to throw the NPP in the mix but see a lot of conflicting ratios on how to run it. I was thinking of starting at 200 NPP 250 test and 300 primo /week to see how I react to it.

 

[Fattyone]

I am about to use the same compounds for a cycle. Is there a ratio that you are following between the Test and NPP like 1:1 and then the primo? I have been running test and primo, started at 2:1 but then went 1:1 and seem to have had better results. I want to throw the NPP in the mix but see a lot of conflicting ratios on how to run it. I was thinking of starting at 200 NPP 250 test and 300 primo /week to see how I react to it.

Everyone seems to like different ratios. 1:2, 2:1, 1;1 etc. some find they’re able to reduce the amount of sides with a certain ratio. Only way to find what works for you is to do it.

 

[focal]

@Handy-jezza, Have you started your cycle with these compounds yet? Curious to hear how it is working for you.

 

[Handy-jezza]

@Handy-jezza, Have you started your cycle with these compounds yet? Curious to hear how it is working for you.

No, I don’t intend on starting any cycles until end of the year at the earliest.

I’m looking to see how well I have recovered from my last blast at the minute.
That dictates my next move.
Thanks for asking though.

 

[amazonas]

Im currently on this stack, and im making crazy gains, recovery is next level on NPP and very good fullness. Also no noticeable bloat, just in the face which is unavoidable for me personally with anything over 300mg test.

Dick works fine. No increase in libido like many people told me NPP would give me. Getting some annoying acne from the NPP, but im only pinning it MWF. Strength is VERY noticeable. Usually, i don't care about strength but npp really makes you strong. And joints feel buttery smooth, so lifting heavy is enjoyable now.

NPP makes me lazy and makes me overthink stuff, but its manageable. Hairloss... test/primo is maybe 5/10 hair loss for me, but adding in NPP im getting fucked so hard in terms of hair loss. I don't know why but im losing so much right now.

Im running 350 test 200 primo 200 npp.

 

[AlistairASP]

I've previously tried a similar cycle, and here are the detailed outcomes:

Regimen: Test E at 400mg/week, Primo E at 500mg/week, and NPP at 300mg/week, all pinned EOD.

Results:
Strength Gains: I saw significant improvement in my workouts, notably a 10lb increase in the incline chest press. Additionally, I was able to push my workouts to higher reps until failure, enhancing endurance.
Physique Changes: There was a modest increase in muscle mass—gained a few kilograms, though I haven't checked the exact numbers lately, sorry for that!
Well-being: I experienced elevated energy levels during workouts and throughout the day, better recovery times, and a stable mood, which I attribute to the balanced hormone levels.
Side Effects: Fortunately, I experienced no issues with libido, and both e2 and prolactin levels remained within the optimal range without the need for AI and VitB6. Other bloodwork parameters were also satisfactory, indicating a healthy tolerance to the cycle.
Overall Experience: This cycle proved to be highly effective for my goals of strength gain and physical improvement, without adverse side effects.

In my opinion, you might consider using Deca if you prefer less frequent injections. I recommend closely monitoring your body's response and conducting regular bloodwork. Adjustments may be necessary based on your personal health and goals.