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[Human_backhoe]

Just so you know... I had godt240's got welts but didn't off opti's 240's

I know I won't get the welts. I posted in the gh and peptides forum about a month or so ago showing studies that welts are a immune response to ecoli as opposed to the GH itself. Only a very small portion 0.03 % of people develop antibodies to the gh itself.

Most red welts are from dirty GH

 

[Human_backhoe]

Just so you know... I had godt240's got welts but didn't off opti's 240's

From another thread. I was incorrect in my number for my last post! Just figured I needed to rectify it.

The only studies done( that I am aware of) show that in both the 191 and 192 0.4 percent of patients develop a immunological response to protein itself. 26,000 patients who have been treated with 192 amino acid residues , 0.02 percent of patients have had growth deceleration associated with binding capacities. No evidence exists to indicate that the methionine on the N-terminus of 192 amino acid residues causes antibodies to growth hormone.

THAT BEING SAID! Most studies are performed on people with GHD, they already have a very high anti-body level to HGH...Another problem is that most antibodies that were measured in those studies is based on antibodies to Escherichia coli proteins and not the antibodies to met-HGH!

Most long term problems with 192 come from dirty Chinese products! Ecoli is now a dated method that they still can't get right in China

Also based on some industry experience..... Modified solid state synthesis is what pharma appears to be doing now.....that's a whole other ballgame!

 

[M8ze]

Delt with the rep yesterday, answered all of my questions quickly and was very nice. Great service

 

[Opti-Canada]

Hey guys,
Regarding shipping the product in “extreme weather conditions”, I’ve posted about the lyophilization process to ensure the GH is protected during its shipment process. I have kits come in from the supplier, then have
Had samples sent and analyzed by @janoshik , in which the testing results showed that there wasn’t a degradation in the hormone, I was getting almost the same testing results @opti did sending his own samples in for testing. For the distance that they have travelled to get here, and then them still show a significant purity should give peace at mind knowing that these aren’t losing their potency. If either @janoshik or @opti can chime in on this that would be great.

Thanks guys, I’ll do my absolute best to answer any other further questions.

 

[janoshik]

Regarding shipping the product in “extreme weather conditions”, I’ve posted about the lyophilization process to ensure the GH is protected during its shipment process. I have kits come in from the supplier, then have
Had samples sent and analyzed by @janoshik , in which the testing results showed that there wasn’t a degradation in the hormone, I was getting almost the same testing results @opti did sending his own samples in for testing. For the distance that they have travelled to get here, and then them still show a significant purity should give peace at mind knowing that these aren’t losing their potency. If either @janoshik or @opti can chime in on this that would be great.

It's been proved over and over again that the HGH is much more impervious than people assume it to be. It's exactly as Opti says, shipping conditions won't affect GH at all.

Only people who say that shipping / storage conditions hurt HGH significantly either have no idea or are trying to defend their product and shift the blame on customer - at least that's my experience.

 

[BigNJ]

All I'm saying I got 0 sides and 0 results from the 100IUKits. Now I am not saying that Opti Canada is scamming people or his products is not good, I'm just saying What I tried did not work at all and that's why I stopped using the rest. Now I don't know why my kits did not work as expected, I personally blamed it on the heat, however if you are saying the heat does not affect the GH purity then something is off here at least with the kits I recieved. Did I ask him for my money back? NO. Am I making a big fuss about it? NO. I'm just curious to why my shit did not work that's all.

 

[sixfoot6]

All I'm saying I got 0 sides and 0 results from the 100IUKits. Now I am not saying that Opti Canada is scamming people or his products is not good, I'm just saying What I tried did not work at all and that's why I stopped using the rest. Now I don't know why my kits did not work as expected, I personally blamed it on the heat, however if you are saying the heat does not affect the GH purity then something is off here at least with the kits I recieved. Did I ask him for my money back? NO. Am I making a big fuss about it? NO. I'm just curious to why my shit did not work that's all.

only way to know is to test it

 

[Steve84]

All I'm saying I got 0 sides and 0 results from the 100IUKits. Now I am not saying that Opti Canada is scamming people or his products is not good, I'm just saying What I tried did not work at all and that's why I stopped using the rest. Now I don't know why my kits did not work as expected, I personally blamed it on the heat, however if you are saying the heat does not affect the GH purity then something is off here at least with the kits I recieved. Did I ask him for my money back? NO. Am I making a big fuss about it? NO. I'm just curious to why my shit did not work that's all.

If you have lots fire the greys up to like 8iu's split twice in the day....
That's when I notice sides forsure at over 6.

I'm just doing my test on sides for the 240's...
Gonna bump up to 7-8iu's. Few days my hands will show it I'm sure.

I hardly notice any sides on the greys at all... even at 6 but when I push 8 I see minor ones.

 

[RunTrenFckTens]

All I'm saying I got 0 sides and 0 results from the 100IUKits. Now I am not saying that Opti Canada is scamming people or his products is not good, I'm just saying What I tried did not work at all and that's why I stopped using the rest. Now I don't know why my kits did not work as expected, I personally blamed it on the heat, however if you are saying the heat does not affect the GH purity then something is off here at least with the kits I recieved. Did I ask him for my money back? NO. Am I making a big fuss about it? NO. I'm just curious to why my shit did not work that's all.

Don't worry bro I got blood work coming in the next day for sure. I have a baseline test as well. It was in the 200s. Will post all results when I get them. I had zero sides running 4IU/day. I have ran that everyday now for a total of 180IU.

 

[Opti-Canada]

All I'm saying I got 0 sides and 0 results from the 100IUKits. Now I am not saying that Opti Canada is scamming people or his products is not good, I'm just saying What I tried did not work at all and that's why I stopped using the rest. Now I don't know why my kits did not work as expected, I personally blamed it on the heat, however if you are saying the heat does not affect the GH purity then something is off here at least with the kits I recieved. Did I ask him for my money back? NO. Am I making a big fuss about it? NO. I'm just curious to why my shit did not work that's all.

I understand, all I’m doing is addressing the heat issue, to reassure you that it may not be the problem. Can you please email me so we can discuss this further and I can help you out?

optican@protonmail.com

 

[Cashton]

All I'm saying I got 0 sides and 0 results from the 100IUKits. Now I am not saying that Opti Canada is scamming people or his products is not good, I'm just saying What I tried did not work at all and that's why I stopped using the rest. Now I don't know why my kits did not work as expected, I personally blamed it on the heat, however if you are saying the heat does not affect the GH purity then something is off here at least with the kits I recieved. Did I ask him for my money back? NO. Am I making a big fuss about it? NO. I'm just curious to why my shit did not work that's all.

Dude the lack of sides is from the lack of dimmer content, have you tried pharma GH? What sides do you get ? Light water retention, a little sleepiness and that’s about it. Try his 240iu kits if you want sides effects and that’s how you’re gonna judge if the GH is good.

 

[Jet Labs]

So hgh that causes red welts means that the hgh has a lot of garbage in the vial as well? Can this unpure hgh cause any kind of infections?

 

[Steve84]

So hgh that causes red welts means that the hgh has a lot of garbage in the vial as well? Can this unpure hgh cause any kind of infections?

So from what I got, not necessarily true....
Can be how it's made and impurities as well.

However, some people can react red welts and not.
I only ever got on 1 brand....

 

[trenaddik]

Don't worry bro I got blood work coming in the next day for sure. I have a baseline test as well. It was in the 200s. Will post all results when I get them. I had zero sides running 4IU/day. I have ran that everyday now for a total of 180IU.

Great ! Keep us updated

 

[Human_backhoe]

So hgh that causes red welts means that the hgh has a lot of garbage in the vial as well? Can this unpure hgh cause any kind of infections?

Infections, probably not on its own. Cellulitis due to Escherichia coli is rare and usually secondary to a cutaneous portal of entry. Skin and soft tissue infections (SSTI) secondary to E. coli bacteraemia have been reported exclusively in immunodeficient patients.

Shitty HGH that hasn't been "cleaned" or made properly will cause you to produce antibodies to the ecoli. This is much different than cellulitis! Only one source here, Godt240 has ever had that specific problem. He was also scamming and had multiple shill accounts. So take that for what it is.

 

[Human_backhoe]

@janoshik

Is there a way for you to test the difference between 191aa and 192aa?

 

[janoshik]

@janoshik

Is there a way for you to test the difference between 191aa and 192aa?

Sure.

Even the cheaper, routine test that I provide would show it should there be a suspicion.

It could be easily confirmed by MALDI-TOF, LCMS or AAA.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Even the cheaper, routine test that I provide would show it should there be a suspicion.

Agreed. Although this will be viewed as a inferred result. Unfortunately the theory of "where there is smoke there is fine " doesn't hold up on these boards.

MALDI-TOF

Do you personally have this capability?

 

[Jet Labs]

Infections, probably not on its own. Cellulitis due to Escherichia coli is rare and usually secondary to a cutaneous portal of entry. Skin and soft tissue infections (SSTI) secondary to E. coli bacteraemia have been reported exclusively in immunodeficient patients.

Shitty HGH that hasn't been "cleaned" or made properly will cause you to produce antibodies to the ecoli. This is much different than cellulitis! Only one source here, Godt240 has ever had that specific problem. He was also scamming and had multiple shill accounts. So take that for what it is.

Interesting, thanks bro

 

[janoshik]

Agreed. Although this will be viewed as a inferred result. Unfortunately the theory of "where there is smoke there is fine " doesn't hold up on these boards.

I'm not entirely sure I understand.

Do you personally have this capability?

No, I don't own a Maldi-TOF.

I cooperate tightly with a research institution that owns that piece of machinery, though and we routinely work on the samples together. Though MALDI-TOF is becoming largely obsolete in the age of LC-TOF-MS, so we always opt for that one instead of MALDI, when possible, as it is available

MALDI-TOF is much more commonplace though as the technology becomes cheaper and more mature. I've considered purchasing one or similar, but ultimately decided against it.