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[B Ware]

Myself and @MightyMouse only store our reconstituted gh in the fridge and have always pulled great labs. Well, mine are good and MightyMouse’s are freakishly great.

Thanks for sharing all the testing @Opti. Nice to see where raws are at pre and post the china issues.

 

[Ghoul]

12v is convenient. I thought they were a little larger than they are. But I reckon you don’t need tons of space inside.

Should be good for 150-175 kits depending on packaging, for the .9 cubic foot capacity models.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Should be good for 150-175 kits depending on packaging, for the .9 cubic foot capacity models.

Oh wow that’s quite a few lol

 

[Sagnastymuscle]

Looking forward to getting as many of those golds as my fridge can hold

 

[The Answ3r]

Since there are issues with China and Lobster has temporarily stopped shipping, most likely due to ongoing customs issues, I figured it’s a good time to try Gold Tops and support some local business - can’t let China have all the fun.

Been hearing a lot of good things about Opti, so why not? Right now, I’m on Q’s HGH, and even at 2iu, I can feel a bit of bloating creeping in. Curious to see how my body reacts to a different HGH - plus, the test results look solid, so might as well do a little “self-experimentation.”

 

[Delux]

Since there are issues with China and Lobster has temporarily stopped shipping, most likely due to ongoing customs issues, I figured it’s a good time to try Gold Tops and support some local business - can’t let China have all the fun.

Been hearing a lot of good things about Opti, so why not? Right now, I’m on Q’s HGH, and even at 2iu, I can feel a bit of bloating creeping in. Curious to see how my body reacts to a different HGH - plus, the test results look solid, so might as well do a little “self-experimentation.”

Have you had the lobster HGH? if so, which one did you get and how is it with sides?

 

[CraneKraken]

Since there are issues with China and Lobster has temporarily stopped shipping, most likely due to ongoing customs issues, I figured it’s a good time to try Gold Tops and support some local business - can’t let China have all the fun.

Been hearing a lot of good things about Opti, so why not? Right now, I’m on Q’s HGH, and even at 2iu, I can feel a bit of bloating creeping in. Curious to see how my body reacts to a different HGH - plus, the test results look solid, so might as well do a little “self-experimentation.”

I think you'll be very happy with the switch. I've shared this before but it's worth mentioning again. Recently went through 2 kits of SA GH. They were roughly 11iu per kit so I did a 5.5iu bolus each night and twice a week I added an additional 5.5iu IM injection 3hrs before going to the gym to get my fasted cardio in. I didn't notice much of a physical change to my physique other than some bloat. I also didn't get that sweet GH sleep on the SA GH. Once I switched to Opti GH everything changed. I got the 11.96 black tops so I did the same routine but with 6iu, instead of the 5.5. Within days I became super vascular, I slept like a baby, I wasn't full of bloat, and more. The difference between the two was stark and I don't think I'll ever buy Chinese GH again. Not while guys like Opti are operating anyway.

Admittedly this is just a feelz report. I did not get bloods done. I suspect if I did get them done they'd match up with the changes in my physique and feelz.

I can't recommend Opti enough. I'm putting in an order for those gold tops this morning. I might add some of his oils & tabs to it as well.

Looking forward to seeing how you do with the change to Opti from QSC and I hope you post your results on here. I imagine QSC GH isn't much different from SA and most other Chinese sources.

 

[Lilerick92]

when is the anadrol back in stock ?

 

[The Answ3r]

Have you had the lobster HGH? if so, which one did you get and how is it with sides?

I’ve only used Q so far. Thought about trying Lobster, but since he stopped shipping from China for now, I decided to stick with Domestic until things settle.

Just placed my first order with Opti. Kinda weird he never replied to my email - I had to order through the website instead. Not a fan of that since email feels more secure, but we’ll see how it goes.

No major sides, but even at 2iu before bed, I wake up a bit puffy. It’s gone by midday, and my cardio and diet are on point, so I figured I’d try Opti to see if a different source makes a difference.

I think you'll be very happy with the switch. I've shared this before but it's worth mentioning again. Recently went through 2 kits of SA GH. They were roughly 11iu per kit so I did a 5.5iu bolus each night and twice a week I added an additional 5.5iu IM injection 3hrs before going to the gym to get my fasted cardio in. I didn't notice much of a physical change to my physique other than some bloat. I also didn't get that sweet GH sleep on the SA GH. Once I switched to Opti GH everything changed. I got the 11.96 black tops so I did the same routine but with 6iu, instead of the 5.5. Within days I became super vascular, I slept like a baby, I wasn't full of bloat, and more. The difference between the two was stark and I don't think I'll ever buy Chinese GH again. Not while guys like Opti are operating anyway.

Admittedly this is just a feelz report. I did not get bloods done. I suspect if I did get them done they'd match up with the changes in my physique and feelz.

I can't recommend Opti enough. I'm putting in an order for those gold tops this morning. I might add some of his oils & tabs to it as well.

Looking forward to seeing how you do with the change to Opti from QSC and I hope you post your results on here. I imagine QSC GH isn't much different from SA and most other Chinese sources.

Yeah, I remember you mentioning this in the SSA thread - that’s actually what convinced me to give Opti a shot. Appreciate the insight, man. Looking forward to seeing how it compares.

 

[Ateam2023]

Am i mistaken?? i thought All UGL hgh was produced in China? Roughly only a couple source's producing UGL hgh even though a vendor sells Domestic?? Would someone more knowledgeable on this care to correct or add anything? Tia

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Am i mistaken?? i thought All UGL hgh was produced in China? Roughly only a couple source's producing UGL hgh even though a vendor sells Domestic?? Would someone more knowledgeable on this care to correct or add anything? Tia

Lobster is in turkey

 

[Ateam2023]

Lobster is in turkey

i realize that, i thought we were talking opti domestic hgh??

 

[accidentaljedi173]

i realize that, i thought we were talking opti domestic hgh??

I was referring to your comment saying all ugl is from China.

 

[Ateam2023]

I was referring to your comment saying all ugl is from China.

i should've not used such a broad statement, thanks for clarifying,, isn't most of it manufactured in China though spare the few known like Lobster ?

 

[Tbl16]

So I can say I’m very happy with Opti’s GH. I ordered the gray tops and instantly had better sleep and metabolism/appetite is up. So far the only sides I’m getting are occasional head aches but regular muscle/body/joint aches. I’m currently taking 2.5iu/day. Anyone experienced this before and have a solution?

 

[bolder]

Just wanted to make a quick TD post. From order to door was 5 days, great communication, exactly what I’m use to doing business with @Opti. Package was tight and secure! Everything mentioned is exactly why I have always used @Opti for all my HGH needs lol. Good to see after all these years he’s still solid. Very rare to see from my experience.
Actually there’s only a couple that are still going strong, this source and another one that tough me everything about the brewing process by reading his post back in the day.
They know who they are

Appreciate the professionalism @Opti

 

[malfeasance]

Hmmm… I also have kept my unreconstituded kits in the fridge. I never saw the post you are referring to but I can’t imagine refrigeration would weaken anything. But I could see how room temperature could get a little iffy. Now I’m wondering though.

Probably should invest in one of those cryofreezer rigs since I will likely play with peptides until I die. That would add some peace of mind. But if you lose power for a couple days like after a hurricane then you better have a generator on standby. In the southeast US we lose power often from severe storms. So generators are pretty common round these parts.

FYI the portable cryofreezers all take 12v battery power as well as AC.

Refrigeration in no way harms peptides of any type. The colder the better. Only a phase change into and out of freezing temps causes degeneration to one degree or another.

As to stability at room temps. A carefully formulated pharma formulation, in reconstituted form, like a prefilled liquid pen, can be good for 30 days at room temp. But that's the result of very careful engineering of the formula and packaging.

Nothing like what we get from UGL,

Its best to assume the worst; that they're as unstable as GH could be, and keeping them as dilute as possible, and cold as possible with as brief a time at room temperature is a sensible, low effort way to maintain quality.

Myself and @MightyMouse only store our reconstituted gh in the fridge and have always pulled great labs. Well, mine are good and MightyMouse’s are freakishly great.

Thanks for sharing all the testing @Opti. Nice to see where raws are at pre and post the china issues.

Guys, I was not claiming anything bad about storing unreconstituted hgh in the fridge.

I was just pointing out that I stopped doing that after seeing MightyMouse's results.

Like MightyMouse and B Ware, I keep reconstituted refrigerated for however many days it is being used.

B Ware, is MightyMouse still around? He married some Arab girl last I saw, and I think he lives over there now.

 

[B Ware]

B Ware, is MightyMouse still around? He married some Arab girl last I saw, and I think he lives over there now.

He pops in from time to time but I believe he’s still working overseas. Oddly, I just noticed the mighty mouse I tagged is not him and I can’t seem to find him. It might just be an error on my end though.

 

[Ghoul]

Guys, I was not claiming anything bad about storing unreconstituted hgh in the fridge.

I know, I didn't hear that from you, just cutting to the chase, ie, colder the better, less room temp exposure the better, etc. It's endless ofc. Less light the better, less agitation the better, etc. To what degree these things matter will vary from batch to batch and there's no practical way to tell. Just clarifying "best practices" for those who care to follow some or all of them.

I'm not handling vials in a pitch black room with night vision goggles, even though that would be "better" technically.

 

[bolder]

I know, I didn't hear that from you, just cutting to the chase, ie, colder the better, less room temp exposure the better, etc. It's endless ofc. Less light the better, less agitation the better, etc. To what degree these things matter will vary from batch to batch and there's no practical way to tell. Just clarifying "best practices" for those who care to follow some or all of them.

I'm not handling vials in a pitch black room with night vision goggles, even though that would be "better" technically.

So many mixed feelings about storage out there it’s hard to know what’s best. I think you can store GH in a drawer/cabinet at room temperature and it’ll be fine. Just think how it shipped. No refer truck drops off the package nor is it shipped in cold packs… with that being said I always store mine in a container in the fridge, reconstituted or not!
I had a couple of kits that sit in the fridge for at least 5 years (actually from @Opti, black tops back in the day) and they are still potent. Crazy to me honestly.
Just my 2 cents on the matter…