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Interesting topic because the whole DHB debate seems to have very strong opinions on both sides.

Either zero issues, or the most toxic compound they’ve ever used.

How can source play a part? Raws are raws. Most are coming from the same factory. So unless it’s super solvents that’s causing the issues, what am I missing?
My main issue with DHB is that Todd Lee recommends it. For this reason alone I will never touch the stuff.
 
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Interesting topic because the whole DHB debate seems to have very strong opinions on both sides.

Either zero issues, or the most toxic compound they’ve ever used.

How can source play a part? Raws are raws. Most are coming from the same factory. So unless it’s super solvents that’s causing the issues, what am I missing?
Ive wondered if raws from some sources are contaminated with old leftover M1T. That would be an impurity that would explain liver toxicity.

In the past it was commonly brewed in guaiacol and/or very high amounts of BB. Either of which would explain PIP and systemic inflammation.

At 100mg in MCT, well made DHB should be crystal clear, not crash at room temp, and PIP-free. And should not affect labs beyond what's expected from its potency. I have such DHB now, and it has the highest gains/nuisssance ratio of probably anything I use.

Could there be some people who just react poorly to it? I guess it is possible, but being synthetic modifications of testosterone AAS generally are well tolerated in terms of immune/systemic reactions, and individual variations in response are explainable by other genetic variability and other epigenetic factors.

Not very familiar with this particular use, but apparently DHB also has high efficacy in treating/resolving PFS (and similar conditions from Lions Mane, Accutane, etc).
 
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Ive wondered if raws from some sources are contaminated with old leftover M1T. That would be an impurity that would explain liver toxicity.

In the past it was commonly brewed in guaiacol and/or very high amounts of BB. Either of which would explain PIP and systemic inflammation.

At 100mg in MCT, well made DHB should be crystal clear, not crash at room temp, and PIP-free. And should not affect labs beyond what's expected from its potency. I have such DHB now, and it has the highest gains/nuisssance ratio of probably anything I use.

Could there be some people who just react poorly to it? I guess it is possible, but being synthetic modifications of testosterone AAS generally are well tolerated in terms of immune/systemic reactions, and individual variations in response are explainable by other genetic variability and other epigenetic factors.

Not very familiar with this particular use, but apparently DHB also has high efficacy in treating/resolving PFS (and similar conditions from Lions Mane, Accutane, etc).
I've heard of people using it for PFS as well and I'm kind of intrigued as I've taken lions mane for quite some time, as well as having it in my pwo and never feel quite right.

What's a decent dose of test to run with 300mg DHB?
 
I've heard of people using it for PFS as well and I'm kind of intrigued as I've taken lions mane for quite some time, as well as having it in my pwo and never feel quite right.

What's a decent dose of test to run with 300mg DHB?

300-350 DHB is probably as much as I'd ever consider running. Since it is not progestogenic or seem to act as AI in most, ratios probably are not relevant. My usual answer is enough test to put your E2/DHT where you want it.

That said, 200 test + 200 DHB seems to be a popular cruise among the coaches who like/use it.
 
300-350 DHB is probably as much as I'd ever consider running. Since it is not progestogenic or seem to act as AI in most, ratios probably are not relevant. My usual answer is enough test to put your E2/DHT where you want it.

That said, 200 test + 200 DHB seems to be a popular cruise among the coaches who like/use it.
I will try it, thank you.
 
I will be vetting these batches to provide clarity for other members sending out samples to Jano for testing when I get a few.
If you look back there is lore behind them but opti has yet to worry me.
All my blood work has been very good with his new lines, and all different batches of Hgh have given me great scores.
I also got ahold of the pharma HCG for a client with fertility issues and his wife is now pregnant after a long time of no positive tests.

This was great news for me I WAS VERY HAPPY with the results
Did you ever end up getting the Opti Jintropin tested?
 
First time order and it arrived in 4 business days with great packaging. Order to delivery has been a top notch experience. Someone previously compared it to an Amazon experience and it holds true.
 
I think it's far better than amazon - most of the packs I get from Amazon look like they were thrown out of a plane.
Agreed! My package arrived today. Box was torn completely open and re-taped with clear packaging tape. Once opened, the contents inside were packaged in a USPS soft paper wrapping/bag. But the contents were still vacuum sealed in the white boxes. So to my surprise, everything was ok and still in good condition. It’s now safely in my fridge!
 
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Ordered some on black friday deal, excited about trying them for first time
Hard to beat.
I ve just received my order, packaging looks good.
Great man, Opti has been the best for several years now. I know you were initially concerned.

If I had to compare I don't think I've had any other comparable consistency. Since my first order years ago to the one just received Opti is in a league of his own.
 
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