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[ThatGuy500mg]

Rarely have I seen a seasoned meso member having continuous issues with any of opti’s hgh

Given there may be a vial in a random kit of a multitude of kits that opti sales. that may have a issue but those could be from a pleather of reasonings ( storage/shipping/bac water used/are they filtering it correctly or incorrectly/ contamination ect). But none of his products has had a track record of issues.

No matter what product one buys from any store in the world that sells mass produced items, you’re bound to have a small nominal amount of defects here and there.

So I wouldn’t worry too much about purchasing any of optis colored tops. Pick which ones suit you the best based on purpose/pric. You really can’t go wrong with this source

Noob question here with gh. Does every vial have to be filtered? I was told as long as it’s clear, it’s fine.

 

[Jamzbeast]

I've been taking the greys for yrs, I've had ZERO issues.. in fact I'm on the blue tops now, no cloudiness and zero issues

 

[Jsilk757]

do filled vials have a duration once filtered/filled at which they expire? have probably 3-4 months left of sermorelin, but was going to do the math to breakdown cost per iu of golds vs greys, would prob only run 2-3.5iu daily which is why i asked about a filled vials duration bc the golds would last a while..

Once reconstituted with bac water, I shoot for 7-10 days on UGL

I believe pharma grade can last 14ish

 

[Meatgazer]

Have any of you guys experienced waking up earlier than desired while on GH? I usually get to bed around 11 and am consistently waking up around 4-5am, and hour or two before I'd like. Getting prolactin and cortisol tested next week. Glucose is in good range. Only running 2iu taken before bed for now.

Yes and many nights, it’s the carpal tunnel that wakes me up. You could try mornings, if you don’t mind a little mid-day lethargy.

 

[Jsilk757]

Noob question here with gh. Does every vial have to be filtered? I was told as long as it’s clear, it’s fine.

Filtering is a personal preference. I do not filter any of optis hgh, but that’s just me.

If I did come across a vial that was cloudy, I wouldn’t waste my time/effort in filtering. I’d just toss it and open another but again, that’s just me

 

[riggspersonal]

Yes and many nights, it’s the carpal tunnel that wakes me up. You could try mornings, if you don’t mind a little mid-day lethargy.

I might give this a try on a weekend day. Initially I was experiencing daytime lethargy when taking before bed, but that went away after a couple of weeks. No carpal tunnel yet thankfully, though I am retaining a shit ton of water.

Any idea what the cause of early waking is? Thinking it was cortisol or prolactin related, but not sure.

 

[riggspersonal]

I’m pretty fresh to the gh game as well. I wouldn’t say I’ve had this issue but I haven’t noticed any of the positive sleep effects yet(3IU) but I actually have some sort of weird anxiety response when trying to go to sleep since I’ve started using. Maybe the quality of my sleep is better, but like you I am only sleeping around 5-6 hrs most nights and just waking up without being able to go back to bed.

Sounds similar to my experience. I heard a lot of praise about sleep quality while taking exogenous GH, but have yet to experience that. So far, I've seen my deep sleep increase, REM sleep decrease, and total overall sleep decrease. Despite that, I feel fairly rested the next day without any lethargy.

I'm doing some more research to understand the early waking. Think its related to cortisol or prolactin, but not sure. E2 also in mid 50s right now so that might be contributing.

 

[Ghoul]

So what does that mean for the testing? Dimer content listed in the report not reliable? How about purity?

Dimer is an aggregate (the smallest aggregate) that’s just 2 monomers attached, so it’s thousands of times smaller than a filter pore and gets through easily. Some amount of dimer may “come apart” in the column that that sample goes through but for the most part dimer is insoluble, stays together and you get an accurate measurement.

As for “purity”, the meaning of that word in the context of chemical analysis isn’t the same as it is in every day speech. It has nothing (well, little) to do with safety.

The equivalent would he taking a sample of your home tap water, running it through a filter that removes every contaminant down to the size of bacteria, then testing shows it’s 99.9% h20. Does that mean it’s safe to drink from the tap?

If you’re not filtering with the same .22um filter used on the sample, you aren’t injecting what you see on the test result. You’re getting the “raw milk” version, complete with bacteria, protein aggregates, glass flakes, plastic strands, metal particulates, etc commonly found in vials of Chinese peptides.

 

[ThatGuy500mg]

Sounds similar to my experience. I heard a lot of praise about sleep quality while taking exogenous GH, but have yet to experience that. So far, I've seen my deep sleep increase, REM sleep decrease, and total overall sleep decrease. Despite that, I feel fairly rested the next day without any lethargy.

I'm doing some more research to understand the early waking. Think its related to cortisol or prolactin, but not sure. E2 also in mid 50s right now so that might be contributing.

I use my Apple Watch to track. I definitely get a lot more core sleep because I wake up less in the night but my deep and REM sleep seem to be almost even, maybe a touch more REM. Still though 5-6hrs 5 nights and 7-8hrs 2 nights a week. It’s just that sudden anxiety I now get when I’m about to fall asleep will wake me back up for a few minutes to an hour.

I also notice that sometimes I get little pulse feelings in my feet every now and then when I’m laying around or down for bed. Almost like a very light electric tingle? (Best way to describe it).

 

[tracct01]

Dimer is an aggregate (the smallest aggregate) that’s just 2 monomers attached, so it’s thousands of times smaller than a filter pore and gets through easily. Some amount of dimer may “come apart” in the column that that sample goes through but for the most part dimer is insoluble, stays together and you get an accurate measurement.

As for “purity”, the meaning of that word in the context of chemical analysis isn’t the same as it is in every day speech. It has nothing (well, little) to do with safety.

The equivalent would he taking a sample of your home tap water, running it through a filter that removes every contaminant down to the size of bacteria, then testing shows it’s 99.9% h20. Does that mean it’s safe to drink from the tap?

If you’re not filtering with the same .22um filter used on the sample, you aren’t injecting what you see on the test result. You’re getting the “raw milk” version, complete with bacteria, protein aggregates, glass flakes, plastic strands, metal particulates, etc commonly found in vials of Chinese peptides.

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Great explanation, thank you. I've been filtering the blues with visibly clear liquid output.

 

[darkdays]

Once reconstituted with bac water, I shoot for 7-10 days on UGL

I believe pharma grade can last 14ish

that answers that golds, would prob not be my best bet

 

[tracct01]

I've been taking the greys for yrs, I've had ZERO issues.. in fact I'm on the blue tops now, no cloudiness and zero issues

When did you purchase the blues? I ordered during the BF sale

 

[Juicedhead]

I have reading that its not a good idea to mix bpc 157 and tb 500 i the same vial. Anyone know about this?

 

[AllGoodThings]

I have reading that its not a good idea to mix bpc 157 and tb 500 i the same vial. Anyone know about this?

I know Travis Bachmeyer (sp?) said that, and especially said the GHK-Cu should never be mixed with anything, but I don't recall him providing any specific reasoning other than generic claims that certain peptides prefer specific pH numbers. It seems possible that it's a valid claim, and I don't think the argument that companies have been making bpc/TB blends and GLOW/KLOW blends for years really proves anything. That said, I've used GLOW and KLOW blends with what I believe to be decent success in recovering from an injury, but that's absolutely anecdotal. I'd like to see more information on this myself.

 

[Juicedhead]

I know Travis Bachmeyer (sp?) said that, and especially said the GHK-Cu should never be mixed with anything, but I don't recall him providing any specific reasoning other than generic claims that certain peptides prefer specific pH numbers. It seems possible that it's a valid claim, and I don't think the argument that companies have been making bpc/TB blends and GLOW/KLOW blends for years really proves anything. That said, I've used GLOW and KLOW blends with what I believe to be decent success in recovering from an injury, but that's absolutely anecdotal. I'd like to see more information on this myself.

yeah i was reading something about the PH as well. Interesting, I will be trying the bpc-tb stack from opti here soon.

 

[crispybacon!]

that answers that golds, would prob not be my best bet

What are you running per day? Golds at 4iu/day would be done in 10 days.

 

[darkdays]

What are you running per day? Golds at 4iu/day would be done in 10 days.

True was going to start at 2.5iu then Go from there?

 

[Ghoul]

Great explanation, thank you. I've been filtering the blues with visibly clear liquid output.

Just remember, every “I’ve been doing x and no issue” bro is defining “issue” as a trip to the ER, going blind, or having an aneurysm.

“I’ve been smoking for 20 years and no issues”.

“I’ve been drinking water from lead pipes and no issues”.

“I’ve been living next to this pesticide plant and no issues”.

Think about the logic of filtering or discarding based on whether aggregates are visible.

Tens of millions of aggregates 100um in size = cloudy / bad.

Tens of millions of aggregates 95um in size = clear / good.

As if the lower limits of vision evolved to discern what’s safe to inject.

 

[Ranger1850]

Has Opti stated when the injectables and tabs will be for sale again? I know the site states within a few weeks however I believe we are right at that point now. Need to get some stuff ASAP…..

TTT. Just noticed Reta is all sold out now too. Does anyone know when this stuff might be available again? Site said within a couple weeks over a couple weeks ago….

 

[MisterT]

True was going to start at 2.5iu then Go from there?

You know your baseline igf?