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Optitropin Janoshik Test results with Dimer
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decode
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So opti’s grey tops that normally have no dimer detected are testing with dimer now?
Yes
T&H
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Definitely seems most to everything is showing dimer now. I count the genotropin tested by liska, liskas generic hgh, one recent test by Tejas Cardinal on SST, and now Greytops. I bet if I looked on other forums I might find more.
Will be interesting if sources quit even testing for it going forward. Appreciate the testing.
Will be interesting if sources quit even testing for it going forward. Appreciate the testing.
clearheaded
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yes and would be interested how much age and storage make a difference in dimmer. ie maybe it is better to keep cold after all 
QSC fresh batch was very low dimmer interesting enough.
97+% tho!
QSC fresh batch was very low dimmer interesting enough. 97+% tho!
Vanargandar
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Ouch...
Clappincheeks
Member
Thank you for posting. If you don't mine me asking which batch was this? what was the date
I ordered the hgh 1 week befor i send them to janoshik
Klimmzugernie
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1,7% is not bad anyways. And do not forget the hit weather during shipment.
clearheaded
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yes do we know how much heat causes dimmer? obv QSC was sent in heat of summer aswell....so probably more about storage than week in hot weather? or on a boat to America than to jano? anyhoo would be an interesting test how much heat affects dimmer. would be cool to see some pharma with the new test... and perhaps this idea we can store on shelf for months isn't that smart if care about dimmer level... IF thats the cause and not from manufacturing.
T&H
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Did y'all not see the 4 other results I quoted above? Tho low, add QSCs recent test to the list. One of them IS a pharma test. Probably going to now see the majority of results showing dimer.
And Clearheaded, where are you getting this idea it's only caused by heat or storage only?
clearheaded
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I dont have that idea that its caused just by heat, others do, keep seeing folks say "heat during summer shipment"... I just pointed out that QSC was sent in summer and had very low readings, and asked how much we ACTUALLY know about heat/time and dimmer or is it more likely manufacturing or some of everything.
when was liska test on geno? and did it pop over 1% dimmer?
ahh I see discussed here... Storage conditions and dimer
when was liska test on geno? and did it pop over 1% dimmer?
ahh I see discussed here... Storage conditions and dimer
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Vanargandar
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I did. I've also seen, I believe Liska, mention how the new testing will show dimer now. IIRC we've seen people like GL, Stan, Liska, and others have dimer content now showing in their tests. That being said, it's usually pretty far under 1%. To be honest, I really don't know if there's that big of a difference between 0.031% and 1.610%, but it seems like it, to me at least.
Juicedhead
Member
What's dimer?
i assume the 0,031% still has old testing.
Liskas catropin used to be around that and is now about 1%. Even legit genos tested higher than that.
I am quite happy that @janoshik is constantly improving his testing method.
Before 2021 (i think it was jan 2021) almost all hghs tested 98%+. After that, we saw more variance in purity but the dimer was almost always non existent. It was hard to see differences between "better" UGLs and pharma.
now finally we are a step closer to that with the new method which is used since July(?)
Klimmzugernie
Well-known Member
Again, again and again. What you guys think to compare here? Unknown Temperatur conditions for these samples. So you can not directly blame the supplier for any quality issues.
Have a look at this threat to see dimer values depending on different environment condition.
Samples are not reconstituted.
thinksteroids.com
Genotropin für instance use manitol In their powder to make it more resistant against changing conditions and vibrations.
Have a look at this threat to see dimer values depending on different environment condition.
Samples are not reconstituted.
Storage conditions and dimer
Some testing on storage conditions and dimer relationship was conducted. 2 separate vials tested each test. This was done as a low effort testing out of personal interest while investigating something else, not a study intended for a publication. Sample X HGH, possibly pharmaceutical grade, but...
thinksteroids.com
Genotropin für instance use manitol In their powder to make it more resistant against changing conditions and vibrations.
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