Orange's DNP Log(g)

[Orangejuicer]

Hello all. This will be as detailed a log as I can manage while not failing out of school.
My plan is to test the results of a "cycle" of DNP while on an extreme caloric restriction Diet. My ultimate goal is to consume no more than 1200 calories, with as much of this coming from Protein as possible. Because this is only a 20 day cycle, I will not be refeeding. And nothing will take me off course short of a hospital visit.
The plan:

DNP dosage

Day 1: 400mg
Day 2-5: 200mg
Day 6-9: 300mg
Day 10-13: 400mg
Day 14-16: 500mg
Day 17-20: 100mg
This is VERY subject to change.

Supps:

Multi-vitamin
Vitamins E + C
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Omega complex
Grape Seed Extract
CLA
Fiber
ECA
The DNP caps contain: EGCG, Forkolin...etc.(P's Stuff)

Meals:

Meal 1: Protein Shake + Fiber
Meal 2: MRP Shake
Meal 3: Lean Meat + Antiox foods(Pom, blueberries, orgegano, V8)
Meal 4: Protein Shake + Fiber
Meal 5: Lean Meat

Protein shake is 60 grams protein 215 calories
MRP is 56 Grams protein 275 calories
Meat will be hopfully 40 grams protein

Additional note:

I will be taking a low dose of Adderall(Amphetamine) to try and speed up my metabolism even more. I have 10mg non XR tha I do not take for any other reason than metabolism aid. These will also GREATLY help in suppressing hunger and Carb Cravings.

Starting Conditions:

20 Year old male
6'5 265 lbs
17-20% Bodyfat
64.5% Water Composition
Arms 17"
Waist 38"

Reason for plan:

I hope to drop 16-20 lbs. of bodyfat over the course of 20 days. I think this goal is unrealistic...but I will try to acheive it without harming my body. I am also attempting to publish an article about the usage of DNP as a cutting agent and hopefully eventually as a Diet drug. I am operating through a team or 4 people, and we will be doing blood tests when possible.

Pictures:

I have taken a series of before pictures, but I will not post them until I start seeing some progress because I am embarrassed about my current physical condition. I promise by day 5 or 6 I will have pictures up.

Over the past 5 or 10 days my average body temperature has been 97.6. I will use this as my base temp to monitor my heating.

Workout Plan:

I lift 4x weekly and do cardio everyday. On this cycle, I plan on chaning that to cardio everyday I don't lift, and 20 minutes on days I do lift. It should be something like this

Day 1: Biceps, Chest, Serratus, Delts, Abs, Stationary bike
Day 2: Bike Ride
Day 3: Triceps, Shoulders, Lats, Teres, Erector Spinae, Stationary Bike
Day 4: Elliptical or treadmill
Day 5: Quads, Hams, Gastronemecus, soleus, shin flexors, Gluts, abs Stationary Bike
Day 6: Jump rope, or team sport
Day 7: Squats, Deads, Powercleans, Rows, Dumbel deads, Dumbell Tosses, Up Highs, pushups


This is my fifth cycle of DNP, but my first on DNP capped by someone other than myself. I am using P's stuff, and on inspection it seems very high quality(The production that is). I cannot lab test it, so I cannot verify the contents, but I trust the supplier.

I hope this log is helpful to someone other than myself.

Please Please Please provide me with any suggestions comments or flames you want. Any input is appreciated.

 

[Orangejuicer]

Day 1:

DNP dosage 400mg (200mg 9:00 AM, 200 mg 3:00 PM)

Meals: as planned Meats were 2 chicken breasts and a salmon filet
Water consumption: 7 Liters
Temp: 97.9F
Weight: 265lb
Supplementation: As planned
Sides: None
Urine: Looked like mountain Dew
Bodyfat: 19-21%
Water Composition: 64.5%

 

[juggernaught]

goodluck OJ

 

[Swimm]

Go OJ! I will be following your progress.

 

[Weatherlite]

Damn man....that's an ambitious undertaking!! I don't think I could do it. On DNP I was always so freakin hungry!!

Good luck!

 

[tittymaster]

I know the amount of calories needed a day is highly individual but I would still say you really need to up your calories. 1,200 calories a day is really low. Especially for males. And at your height/weight. Maybe consider upping it to at least 2000 cals a day? Especially on dnp, there is really no reason for that drastic of a calorie deficit.
Generally speaking, such a low amount of calories for a 3 week period will do more harm than good.

Just my two cents however.

 

[prodigy06]

I know the amount of calories needed a day is highly individual but I would still say you really need to up your calories. 1,200 calories a day is really low. Especially for males. And at your height/weight. Maybe consider upping it to at least 2000 cals a day? Especially on dnp, there is really no reason for that drastic of a calorie deficit.
Generally speaking, such a low amount of calories for a 3 week period will do more harm than good.

Just my two cents however.

I second that, I'd do 2000. You're a big, tall motherfucker, you can't eat like a little guy. Good luck with "day 7" too, sounds very taxing.

 

[Orangejuicer]

I agree totally with you guys. I think it's somewhat stupid to try and do so few cals. but I'm hoping that my extreme caloric defecit will Allow the DNP to not waste energy and instead allow me to use all the energy for my muscles. I will reevaluate this one day 6 or 7. Thank you for your concern.

As far as my workout...yes it is probably too much. That is simply what I do usually. I think it will probably just be either a light day, or even a day off. Nothing is set in stone. I realize I will more than likely bump up to 20-2200 kclas by day 6 or 7, and I will probably skip, or perform poorly at workouts. Though I am thoroughly dissatisfied with my body, I am legitimately doing this for research reasons.

I am currently on day 3 and my hunger is non existent, and my energy is high.....but I am on a very low dose.

My BMR by the two or three decent equations have given me between 2400 and 2500 kcals at rest. So I may even bump to 2500 cals/day. This log is meant to serve as an informal research journal of my success, or failure.

 

[Orangejuicer]

Conciliator, I would greatly appreciate your input, your expertise would help me a lot.

 

[prodigy06]

Whats the fat content of your diet? Maybe add olive oil or something?

 

[Orangejuicer]

I have been taking an omega complex and a specific Omega 3 from borage. I cook my meals in olive oil, but I am intaking honestly at most 1-2 tablespoons per day. Would you advise raising this?

 

[Conciliator]

Conciliator, I would greatly appreciate your input, your expertise would help me a lot.

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You're doing a PSMF, which a lot of people don't understand. It's an extreme diet, but 1200 Cal per day sounds about right. That's a lot of protein you'll be getting. If you want to do a PSMF, then try it. Personally, I don't think PSMF+DNP is the best option. Lethargy and discomfort seem to be excessive. This is just from feedback I've received from others. I think a 2000-2500 Cal/day mixed diet is a better option, but if you want to try the PSMF and see how you feel, I'd go for it. It should result in more fat loss. As for the olive oil, don't take it on a PSMF. As some people say, a PSMF is "Protein Strictly Mother Fucker" . Take fish oil for EFA's, some very low cal veggies for fiber (like broccoli, celery, cauliflower), and lots and lots of protein. I'd highly recommend Lyle McDonald's "Rapid Fatloss Handbook". He goes into great detail about running a PSMF.

Training will undoubtedly suffer. I'd cut your normal volume substantially. Try to hit each bodypart at least 2x/wk with a couple of heavy sets, using compound movements. Consider taking some carbs before hitting the gym, which should help immensely with energy levels.

I'll be watching this. I'm especially interested in any changes in the blood work.

-Conc

 

[KingdomCome]

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[Orangejuicer]

Day 2:

DNP dosage 200mg (100mg 9:00 AM, 100 mg 4:00 PM)

Meals: as planned Meats were large cheap steaks with fat cut out cooked on gearge foreman grill
Water consumption: 10+ Liters(Close to 1 gallon(3.8 L) consumed at gym
Temp: 96.2F (Temps taken under tongue with $12 thermometer for now
Weight: 265.5 lb
Supplementation: As planned
Sides: Minor Heat...Scalp sweat at gym
Urine: Cleared out as the day went on
Bodyfat: 19-21%
Water Composition: 71.0%

Note: My front loading of dosage didn't seem to do much, I think because of the long half life of the DNP. My sides are VERY minimal. It may be the power of suggestion, but I feel leaner in the mirror, and my clothes feel better. I realize my diet changes will have made a bigger difference at this point than the DNP, but so far I am hopeful, and my diet is dong well. I will have more in depth descriptions of the porteins I'm using soon. And pics will come soon too. I am just taking water and body fat composition with an electro conductance scale. Once My lab is open for personal research I will have better numbers for Thyroid and water composition.

Conciliator: I did some SERIOUS lurking on bodyrecomposition on your and swimm's suggestion, and I think EVERYONE on this site should head over there and check it out. The depth of the discussion on hardcore diets is amazing and there's some real gurus over there....yourself included.

Pimp: www.Bodyrecompostiion.com

 

[Orangejuicer]

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Take fish oil for EFA's, some very low cal veggies for fiber (like broccoli, celery, cauliflower), and lots and lots of protein. I'd highly recommend Lyle McDonald's "Rapid Fatloss Handbook". He goes into great detail about running a PSMF.
-Conc

As far as EFA's go, how many grams/day would you suggest, and do you need to pyramid those (ie 1 gram morning, 2 grams mid morning 3 grams noon, 2 grams mid afternoon 1 gram evening).
I saw on Bodyrecomp that people siggest 6 grams a day. I am much larger than these people. I was thinking 6 grams mixed EFA(Borage Flax Fish) and 3 grams Omega supreme(Krill, cod liver, and Fish oil)

Would a psyllium husk fiber supp do well in place of the veggies?
Thanks.

 

[Orangejuicer]

Day 3:

DNP dosage 200mg (100mg 7:00 AM, 100 mg 6:00 PM)

Meals: as planned: Chicken
Water consumption: 8 Liters
Temp: 97.1F (Temps taken under tongue with $12 thermometer for now)
Weight: 257 lb
Supplementation: As planned(Added B-complex for energy)
Sides: Warm when others are cool. Very little sweating.
Urine: Bright yellow(B-complex)
Bodyfat: 15-18%%
Water Composition: 70.0%

Note: The Amphetamine had already started to mess with my sleep cycle. Also, it has me clenching my jaw quite a bit, which is just annoying, nothing serious. When I wake up, I feel very weak, though not to a point of concern. I am considering having some intraveinous glycerophosphates on hand so if I start to feel too weak I can take some ATP at the source. I feel like I am contantly in a fog even though I am on the amphetamine. I have noticed that taking caffeiene GREATLY increases my awareness and reflexes. It was noted that my pupils are slow to dilate, I assume this is unrelated. As far as GI goes, it has not been pretty. Every trip to the bathroom has a secondary emergency trip about 10 minutes later. This is very annopying as I am a Bike courier for my job. I got some Xenadrine Hardcore from my roomate, and I'm going tot ake it for the caffeiene, Theophylline and oolong extract. Not so much for fat loss, as for energy. I do feel general lethargy and waking is a little difficult.

After consuming a large amount of water, I felt very very nauseated. I didn't vomit, but I had to sit down for a moment. This was alleviated by the Apneoic response by gargling salt water.

Just before bed I had a tachycardial event, and my pulse elevated to around 266. I have had TCD fits before, but this one hurt much much worse. I got in an ice cold shower and layed down, and it subsided. I assume the combination of Amphetamine and caffeiene was the cause of this. I hope the next time one occurs I am in the lab so I can get an ElectroCadiogram documented.

As far as fat loss goes, I am very hopeful. Day three and I definately have some better definition and vascularity. My starting point was pretty dismal, and I'm not very far from that, but I am looking forward to the next few weeks.

 

[juggernaught]

careful OJ

 

[Orangejuicer]

careful OJ

Thank you jugg. I appreciate your concern. I will keep up with updates. I'm on day 6 right now. I hope to catch up soon. I had a second TCD event, but it was much less severe, and I an emergency autoinjector of Digoxin on hand, and it stopped it within seconds. I switched amphetamines, and I think the problem is solved.

 

[jsupstarz]

WOW 266, yeah I would def. run an ekg regardless to make sure everything is running fine. Like they said be careful and I may cut back on the amph, cuz that is extremely dangerous, and not worth it.

 

[Orangejuicer]

WOW 266, yeah I would def. run an ekg regardless to make sure everything is running fine. Like they said be careful and I may cut back on the amph, cuz that is extremely dangerous, and not worth it.

Thank you for the concern. I might use a halter monitor and try to cause an attack to see what's up.....though I don't have time for this.
I have written myself a script for Adderall XR 5mg which is 5 mg of amphetamine and then another 5mg on a 12 hour time release. I think the original dosage was a bit intense with my caffeiene and stim intake. I have only 4 Adderall pills on hand, but I will hit a pharmacist soon to get the rest.

I don't think my diet would be possible without the Adderall as it is THE appetite suppressant. I don't want to eat when on it, and that makes only eating protein possible. I have a goal in the back of my head to lose 30 pounds in 4 weeks.....Doubt it...but I hope. If I can stick to the diet, I think it will turn out REALLY REALLY well....or it will kill me.