OVERTRAINING!? What do you guys think?

[bkahl220]

hardest thing for me is not gng to the gym im on aas so I train 6dys a wk do you think that still to much? about 2yrs ago I was diagnosed with rhabdomylosis from over training marathon runners get this a lot it is the detiration of your skeletal muscles. wondering how often you guys train and sleep.

 

[noah_k]

I've settled into every other day, extremely low volume, high intensity, and high frequency. For me, this is the best balance of quick (1 hour max) and fun (intensity) that pairs well with growth, strength, and cutting. 2-way split with some fullbody in both. Still believe the "best" program you can do is not the one with optimal growth and timing, but the one that you do and enjoy consistently (first and foremost) and with continual progress in numbers or reps.

I love the gym, but anything more than AB x AB x (x = off day) doesn't work well with me.

I can't say anything on rhabdomyolysis, but it sounds serious enough to reconsider a new training program and see if it helps.

Sleep.. 8 hours ideally, 7 usually.

 

[EZ_E]

2-3 on, day off. Rest = grow.

Being disciplined enough not to go is as hard as anything.

 

[noah_k]

Yeah exactly what ez_e says. I'll take another moment to rep dante trudel (doggcrapp training, intensemuscle).

He goes into this in great detail, overcoming that OCD that makes you want to train such high volume day in and day out, and realizing what might be better for you, both mentally and physically. Everyone is different, but he always has a hard time getting bodybuilders off the traditional ethos when he takes them as clients. It really feels like you're "not doing enough" initially when you drop days like that.

 

[bkahl220]

I totally agree couldn't said it better myself having enough discipline not to go

 

[bkahl220]

thanks everyone, great advice noah I will definetly consider what you said.

 

[Undertow333]

YOur body is created to adapt to stressors. The average person doesn't have to fear over training, clean or using. As we get older (much older) or near the pinnacle of our genetic level, it really is a non issue for most. Check out the phisiques and stamina levels of collegiant wrestlers. Anybody involved in wrestling or fight sports can tell you, overtraining is overstated as long as rest and nutrition are on point. That being said, every individual is unique and what holds true for some of us may not be true for others. Know your body and what it is capable of; and then know that it is capable of more

 

[dnoyez]

I've settled into every other day, extremely low volume, high intensity, and high frequency. For me, this is the best balance of quick (1 hour max) and fun (intensity) that pairs well with growth, strength, and cutting. 2-way split with some fullbody in both. Still believe the "best" program you can do is not the one with optimal growth and timing, but the one that you do and enjoy consistently (first and foremost) and with continual progress in numbers or reps.

I love the gym, but anything more than AB x AB x (x = off day) doesn't work well with me.

I can't say anything on rhabdomyolysis, but it sounds serious enough to reconsider a new training program and see if it helps.

Sleep.. 8 hours ideally, 7 usually.

I like your style

 

[raysugar1234]

YOur body is created to adapt to stressors. The average person doesn't have to fear over training, clean or using. As we get older (much older) or near the pinnacle of our genetic level, it really is a non issue for most. Check out the phisiques and stamina levels of collegiant wrestlers. Anybody involved in wrestling or fight sports can tell you, overtraining is overstated as long as rest and nutrition are on point. That being said, every individual is unique and what holds true for some of us may not be true for others. Know your body and what it is capable of; and then know that it is capable of more

wise words, overtraining for one person could be undertraining for another..... You cant just look at a routine and conclude if that person is over training or not.....

 

[Big-Dan]

Personally I work 50 to 60 hrs a week have wife children etc.... So I get like 1hr to an 1hr and a half tops gym time... Normally I like to hit it Tuesday Thursday Saturday... Since every knuckle head wants to be in there mon wed fri I change mine to the days with less ppl.... But thanks to the titan workout someone just cursed me with ive went to 4 days a week... But for me I constantly have to try new workouts I just think it works for me... I see a lot of these guys in there just killing theirselves and goin nowhere... I stick to myself and don't have much time for convo but ill get cornered from time to time... They all ask the same questions... How do you get big shoulders?? how do you put that kinda weight up... I tell em all the same lie dedication and diet...lol

 

[boxer15]

I do heavy weights 3 times a week and cardio almost every chance I get. I train heavy and realized over time that I enjoy lifting more when my joints aren't on fire.
So now when on a cycle I plan to increase weights on all my lifts by 5-10lbs every time I lift which is very easy on a push/pull type workout. I once damaged the tendon on elbow from over training with heavy weights and since then I never over trained again. I'm only 29, so I still have years of cycling ahead of me

 

[raysugar1234]

Having a physical labor job can make it tough... Especially if you work all day then hit the gym in the evening, Your not fresh and wont be able to hit as much weight.... A physical labor job is good for endurance,....

 

[boxer15]

Yeah I know what you mean. I do construction for a living and days I'm shot by the time I get home. All these cubible guys are lucky lol

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Having a physical labor job can make it tough... Especially if you work all day then hit the gym in the evening, Your not fresh and wont be able to hit as much weight.... A physical labor job is good for endurance,....

Everybody's different, and I'm an Ironworker. I'm more running jobs and doing paperwork now. I gotta say that overall I felt much better, and was much easier to stay lean when I was working in the field connecting steel all day. I think it was like active recovery or something. Strength was about the same, but I'm sure if I stayed in the field another 10-15 years, I'd be hurting, so who knows.

Riding a desk most of the day is slow death...

 

[boxer15]

Everybody's different, and I'm an Ironworker. I'm more running jobs and doing paperwork now. I gotta say that overall I felt much better, and was much easier to stay lean when I was working in the field connecting steel all day. I think it was like active recovery or something. Strength was about the same, but I'm sure if I stayed in the field another 10-15 years, I'd be hurting, so who knows.

Riding a desk most of the day is slow death...

Your right about the active recovery. I guess its how some guys do light lifting to increase blood flow, but when Im working and lifting I recover faster than when laid off. Although, when I am laid off, I never miss a workout vs sometimes ill skip my workout if I humping Sheetrock or exterior studs.

 

[raysugar1234]

Yah when I was a laborer laying pipe it was really tough.... glad I don't do physical labor anymore..... It was very bad for my lower back as well.... I worked such long hours that I couldnt even maintain a decent workout schedule, I maintained muscle though just cuz of how much heavy stuff I moved around all day..

 

[Bucky]

Everybody's different, and I'm an Ironworker. I'm more running jobs and doing paperwork now. I gotta say that overall I felt much better, and was much easier to stay lean when I was working in the field connecting steel all day. I think it was like active recovery or something. Strength was about the same, but I'm sure if I stayed in the field another 10-15 years, I'd be hurting, so who knows.Riding a desk most of the day is slow death...

Structural IW here. The work will keep you in shape for sure, but it beats you down also. You get banged up during the day. Especially connecting or even shaking out. People with desk jobs have more of a tendency to get overweight and develop cardiovascular problems more-so than construction trades/manual labor.
A few years ago, I was driving drift pins in moments with 7" combined thickness. Using a 10lb beater all day for weeks. Finally the beater glanced off the pin on an awkward shot. My right hand went numb for about 30 sec. Was never right after that. Long story short, they found a herniated disc in my neck and three in my thoracic spine. It is possible a nerve got pinched in my neck or I got some sort of CTS in the wrist from the impact. I was in a couple MC wrecks, but I suspect the IWing took it's toll.

 

[weekend]

you aren't gonna get rhabdo, but watch out for nagging injuries and tendon issues.

those are usually my limiting factor on why i need days off, that and when the CNS gets too taxed from doing too many heavy days in a row even if it didn't bother the joints or tendons.

something about a day dedicated to deadlifts always has me out of the gym the next day, just eating lol

 

[Undertow333]

I ran a roofing company and roofed most days for five years. Now I am in highway construction and there are days when we walk over 12 miles. Our workdays are usually sun up to sundown in season. Shit usually goes wrong once a day at least and there can be alot of shoveling/hauling. Myself and another guy also load about 40 to 50 bags of cement every morning to the top of a big ass M1 paver. I volunteered for that job for the extra workout. I have found the only way to stay consistant with training in these physical jobs is to blast it out first thing AM. 4 AM workouts suck but, when you adjust, it makes the day better. I get grumpy as shit and don't feel as good on days I skip durring season. We also are traveling constantly through our surrounding states. Gotta have an Anytime Fitness account and hope there is one in the area. We drove 2 hours to and from the gym one week. Where there is a will, there is a way.