Panic attacks in BodyBuilding

[BarbarianGainz]

Hello Forum,

I hope I am writing it well here in this section here. I need some information, experience from users which have to deal with similar. But maybe I start with my problem.

To me:
I´ve been cycling since 3-4 years now. Most of the time I guess I was on TRT 125mg per Week. I´ve started my first experience with Testosterone E with 350mg after some Month I´ve gain 10kg in less than a year. I´ve added one component after another to see how my Body reacts to everything. Anavar 50mg ed, afterwardfs Test + Mast, than Test + Mast P + NPP, than I´ve started to add HGH (till 4IU) and I´ve also tried Test + Primo + NPP I´ve never got higher than 950mg per week. The last year, after 5 month of TRT I´ve tried Tren A.
175mg Test, 300mg Tren A, 300mg Mast P for 12 Weeks. To be honest, I had no side effects of using tren. I´ve just took longer for falling asleep.
After 11 weeks I´ve runninjg bloodwork and just my Prolactin was up, E2 to 98 and HDL was down to 19 and LDL UP. HDL to LDL Ratio was at 6.1 (Ref is <3)
After 6 Weeks again, my Bloodwork was good everything in range. E2 at 54 (<50) and HDL to LDL ratio back at 1.4 with HDL at 45. So I´ve finished my cycle on beginning of July 2024

Earlie august 2024, I´ve got Covid-19 (It was not my first time Covid). The course of the disease wasn´t hard. Just a normal cold. But than, my problems started 4 weeks after my covid 19 infection. My Bloodpresure started to going up even with 40mg Telmisartan. I was not able to get lower to 130/80. Normally I was at 115-125/70-80. (On cycle a little bit higher, I´ve started to add Nebivolol till 2.5mg while cycling and lower it to 1.25mg before cutting it off)
From time to time, I´ve got Brainfog, dizziness and I think I´ve started to get Panic attacks. Because in the situations I was thinking I´ve got a heart attack or a stroke since sometimes it startes from the head and not from the heart. I´ve called several times the ambulance and they never found something.

I was in contact with my doctor and my cardiologist to check my heart and organs and everything is fine. Even my heart wall shrinked a little bit due to Nebivolol.
But I was not able to reduce my BP <130.
Some month passed and I´ve had since then no panic attack from february till may. I still had the strange feeling that something isn´t correct in my body. But it could be the case that I´ve switched from Telmisartan to Candensartan and mid of 2025 I´ve switched back to telmisartan.
So since my bloodwork is fine, the doctors say everything is fine I´ve want to go back to a cycle. I´ve started with
350mg Test E, 280mg Mast P, 280mg Primo. After two weeks I´ve got a panic attack and the brainfog/dizzines appears again which I´ve never had bevore while on "higher dosage" I´ve cut everything down and was going to 125mg Test + 280mg Mast P, but I´ve got again a panic attack (I guess) and got back to TRT. So during the holidays (pentecost) I had no problems with Brainfog, dizziness and was really happy but than while driving I´ve got again a panic attack.
This was the last time that its clear for me that there is "everything fine with my body" and I suffer from panic attacks.
My doctor provided me Quetiapin Accord which I didn´t use till now. He mentioned I should use it if the next panic attack arrive which dosn´t make sense to me. The medicament takes 30-60min to work. My Panic attacks last max 10-20min.
Now I have two problems. First one I´ve accepted that I suffer from panic attacks. I´ve still have a meeting with neurologist and before a MRT from my head.
But then, I still have from time to time some brain fog, dizzines and Disturbance of vision in the distance from time to time which are a different topic from the panic attacks.
Does anybody have similar issues or deal with panic attacks while using steroids?

I would appreciate any input.

Best Regards,

 

[BP_6]

Hello Forum,

I hope I am writing it well here in this section here. I need some information, experience from users which have to deal with similar. But maybe I start with my problem.

To me:
I´ve been cycling since 3-4 years now. Most of the time I guess I was on TRT 125mg per Week. I´ve started my first experience with Testosterone E with 350mg after some Month I´ve gain 10kg in less than a year. I´ve added one component after another to see how my Body reacts to everything. Anavar 50mg ed, afterwardfs Test + Mast, than Test + Mast P + NPP, than I´ve started to add HGH (till 4IU) and I´ve also tried Test + Primo + NPP I´ve never got higher than 950mg per week. The last year, after 5 month of TRT I´ve tried Tren A.
175mg Test, 300mg Tren A, 300mg Mast P for 12 Weeks. To be honest, I had no side effects of using tren. I´ve just took longer for falling asleep.
After 11 weeks I´ve runninjg bloodwork and just my Prolactin was up, E2 to 98 and HDL was down to 19 and LDL UP. HDL to LDL Ratio was at 6.1 (Ref is <3)
After 6 Weeks again, my Bloodwork was good everything in range. E2 at 54 (<50) and HDL to LDL ratio back at 1.4 with HDL at 45. So I´ve finished my cycle on beginning of July 2024

Earlie august 2024, I´ve got Covid-19 (It was not my first time Covid). The course of the disease wasn´t hard. Just a normal cold. But than, my problems started 4 weeks after my covid 19 infection. My Bloodpresure started to going up even with 40mg Telmisartan. I was not able to get lower to 130/80. Normally I was at 115-125/70-80. (On cycle a little bit higher, I´ve started to add Nebivolol till 2.5mg while cycling and lower it to 1.25mg before cutting it off)
From time to time, I´ve got Brainfog, dizziness and I think I´ve started to get Panic attacks. Because in the situations I was thinking I´ve got a heart attack or a stroke since sometimes it startes from the head and not from the heart. I´ve called several times the ambulance and they never found something.

I was in contact with my doctor and my cardiologist to check my heart and organs and everything is fine. Even my heart wall shrinked a little bit due to Nebivolol.
But I was not able to reduce my BP <130.
Some month passed and I´ve had since then no panic attack from february till may. I still had the strange feeling that something isn´t correct in my body. But it could be the case that I´ve switched from Telmisartan to Candensartan and mid of 2025 I´ve switched back to telmisartan.
So since my bloodwork is fine, the doctors say everything is fine I´ve want to go back to a cycle. I´ve started with
350mg Test E, 280mg Mast P, 280mg Primo. After two weeks I´ve got a panic attack and the brainfog/dizzines appears again which I´ve never had bevore while on "higher dosage" I´ve cut everything down and was going to 125mg Test + 280mg Mast P, but I´ve got again a panic attack (I guess) and got back to TRT. So during the holidays (pentecost) I had no problems with Brainfog, dizziness and was really happy but than while driving I´ve got again a panic attack.
This was the last time that its clear for me that there is "everything fine with my body" and I suffer from panic attacks.
My doctor provided me Quetiapin Accord which I didn´t use till now. He mentioned I should use it if the next panic attack arrive which dosn´t make sense to me. The medicament takes 30-60min to work. My Panic attacks last max 10-20min.
Now I have two problems. First one I´ve accepted that I suffer from panic attacks. I´ve still have a meeting with neurologist and before a MRT from my head.
But then, I still have from time to time some brain fog, dizzines and Disturbance of vision in the distance from time to time which are a different topic from the panic attacks.
Does anybody have similar issues or deal with panic attacks while using steroids?

I would appreciate any input.

Best Regards,

Sorry to hear about your issues. I am sure it sucks. While steroids don't in any way cause panic attacks generally, if you are prone to them, they could enhance and bring them out more frequently and stronger.

My advice is simple and logial. Accept the fact that you may not be able to use them beyond anything but maybe a TRT doese until at least you get your symptoms under control by a medical professional. Then if you still really for whatever reason feel the need, keep the doses as low as possible and stay away from compounds like trenbolone, EQ at a minimum as those are know in some people to cause anxiety which can lead to panic attacks.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Not a doctor but High dose steroids could cause this. Primo as high as test could if it lowered e2 too much. I think you may be experiencing anxiety more than a panic attack. Or that anxiety is leading to one. You just gotta relax and ride it out. Anxiety used to hit me every afternoon like clockwork when I started trt. About 10-20 minutes long. I just took some deep breaths, relaxed, and let it pass. After a week or two it was gone and has never returned at any dose.
And consider that steroid cycles just may not be for you

 

[BarbarianGainz]

Hello,

thanks for your inputs. The strange behaviour is, that I was completly fine for 3 years while cycling from TRT to ~950mg per week.

Ive try to relax, but my doctor said it could be Panic attacs without identifiers.

I was complelty fine while driving, and than immediately I,ve got a tingle in my head, heavy breathing and a pressure on my chest and the feeling that I will be faint at any Moment.

My problem right now is…:
(at this situation, I was aware that I have a panic attack, and was a Little Bit more comfortable than the previous ones > but still 20min fucked up as hell)
…the same symptomes have a Heart attack or a stroke. Which is anyoing as fuck to identifiy do I have a panic attack or a heart attack.

My last time on 375mg Test and 300mg Primo my E2 was at 48 (ref <50) so a little bit more test than Primo is fine for me.
I am not sure if this behaviour can change over time, I didnt checked my E2 two weeks after cycle start…

 

[Benf15harp]

Maybe you have whatever LONG COVID is?

 

[Musmadar]

I'm thinking that the quality of the gear could also be the reason for some of the weird side effects.....some of the ingredients might not be tolerated well enough by some while for others doesn't rise any problems.

 

[BarbarianGainz]

I'm thinking that the quality of the gear could also be the reason for some of the weird side effects.....some of the ingredients might not be tolerated well enough by some while for others doesn't rise any problems.

Its the same shit which I used ~2 years ago. Ordered from QSC and Never Bad Problems

 

[Slowww]

I used to have pretty bad panic attacks until I was able to identify triggers, and learn techniques about how to mitigate the panic attacks when they occur, or after identifying what will make me anxious do something to alleviate it before it happens. Firstly if you have some anxiety about your heart health etc. you’re really going to want to avoid anything that can exacerbate any feelings of that anxiety. If you’re a hypochondriac and you relate some kind of chest pain to tren and the chest pain then causes you to catastrophize and spiral you need to either remove the cause or find a behavior or thought pattern that can rely on to snap you out of it and not dwell on those feelings until they go from normal anxiety to full on panic. If you can’t figure that out and are just truly anxious from compounds because they 1. Increase anxiety, 2. Damage your health in a way that you find too difficult to cope with, you can obviously stop. What used to help me before I got over my panic attacks was going for a run, or any cardio, it really helped me clear my head and focus on a simple pattern/activity that wouldn’t be related to the cause of my panic attack and it could help me get over it much quicker.
I’m not saying these will help 100% but they may be worth a try

 

[AllGoodThings]

You may want to consider getting your vitamin D levels checked. I started to experience crippling anxiety and panic attacks, especially when trying to fall asleep at night. Turns out I was vitamin D deficient. I started supplementing with D3/K2 at fairly high doses, around 15,000iu for D3, and the panic attacks went from several times a week or worse to entirely disappearing within a few days. Kind of a miracle for me. I hope you get yours figured out.

 

[knucklesamich]

Tell your doctor you'd like one of those devices that you attach to your chest and it monitors your heart over long period of time. It sounds like you could have Afib or something. You won't know though, unless they capture this from a recording. This is speculative, I'm just another body providing input on what it could be. Here's a quick definition of Afib


Atrial fibrillation (AFib) is a common irregular heartbeat where the heart's upper chambers (atria) beat chaotically, often too fast and irregularly, and may not be in sync with the lower chambers (ventricles). This can lead to blood pooling in the atria, increasing the risk of blood clots and stroke. Symptoms can range from palpitations and shortness of breath to none at all.

Elaboration:

• What is AFib?
  AFib is an abnormal heart rhythm where the heart's upper chambers (atria) beat irregularly and rapidly, disrupting the normal flow of blood into the lower chambers (ventricles).
  
  
• • Causes:
    AFib can be triggered by various factors, including heart disease, high blood pressure, and aging. Sometimes, the underlying cause is unknown.
    
  • Symptoms:
    Some people with AFib experience palpitations, shortness of breath, dizziness, and fatigue. Others may have no symptoms at all, and AFib can be detected during a routine check-up.
    
  • Risks:
    Untreated AFib can increase the risk of stroke, heart failure, and other heart-related complications.
    
  • Diagnosis:
    Doctors use tests like electrocardiograms (EKGs) to diagnose AFib.
    
  • Treatment:
    Treatment options include medications to control heart rate and prevent blood clots, procedures like cardioversion and cardiac ablation, and lifestyle changes.
    
  • Prognosis:
    Early detection and treatment can significantly improve the prognosis for individuals with AFib.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Hello Forum,

I hope I am writing it well here in this section here. I need some information, experience from users which have to deal with similar. But maybe I start with my problem.

To me:
I´ve been cycling since 3-4 years now. Most of the time I guess I was on TRT 125mg per Week. I´ve started my first experience with Testosterone E with 350mg after some Month I´ve gain 10kg in less than a year. I´ve added one component after another to see how my Body reacts to everything. Anavar 50mg ed, afterwardfs Test + Mast, than Test + Mast P + NPP, than I´ve started to add HGH (till 4IU) and I´ve also tried Test + Primo + NPP I´ve never got higher than 950mg per week. The last year, after 5 month of TRT I´ve tried Tren A.
175mg Test, 300mg Tren A, 300mg Mast P for 12 Weeks. To be honest, I had no side effects of using tren. I´ve just took longer for falling asleep.
After 11 weeks I´ve runninjg bloodwork and just my Prolactin was up, E2 to 98 and HDL was down to 19 and LDL UP. HDL to LDL Ratio was at 6.1 (Ref is <3)
After 6 Weeks again, my Bloodwork was good everything in range. E2 at 54 (<50) and HDL to LDL ratio back at 1.4 with HDL at 45. So I´ve finished my cycle on beginning of July 2024

Earlie august 2024, I´ve got Covid-19 (It was not my first time Covid). The course of the disease wasn´t hard. Just a normal cold. But than, my problems started 4 weeks after my covid 19 infection. My Bloodpresure started to going up even with 40mg Telmisartan. I was not able to get lower to 130/80. Normally I was at 115-125/70-80. (On cycle a little bit higher, I´ve started to add Nebivolol till 2.5mg while cycling and lower it to 1.25mg before cutting it off)
From time to time, I´ve got Brainfog, dizziness and I think I´ve started to get Panic attacks. Because in the situations I was thinking I´ve got a heart attack or a stroke since sometimes it startes from the head and not from the heart. I´ve called several times the ambulance and they never found something.

I was in contact with my doctor and my cardiologist to check my heart and organs and everything is fine. Even my heart wall shrinked a little bit due to Nebivolol.
But I was not able to reduce my BP <130.
Some month passed and I´ve had since then no panic attack from february till may. I still had the strange feeling that something isn´t correct in my body. But it could be the case that I´ve switched from Telmisartan to Candensartan and mid of 2025 I´ve switched back to telmisartan.
So since my bloodwork is fine, the doctors say everything is fine I´ve want to go back to a cycle. I´ve started with
350mg Test E, 280mg Mast P, 280mg Primo. After two weeks I´ve got a panic attack and the brainfog/dizzines appears again which I´ve never had bevore while on "higher dosage" I´ve cut everything down and was going to 125mg Test + 280mg Mast P, but I´ve got again a panic attack (I guess) and got back to TRT. So during the holidays (pentecost) I had no problems with Brainfog, dizziness and was really happy but than while driving I´ve got again a panic attack.
This was the last time that its clear for me that there is "everything fine with my body" and I suffer from panic attacks.
My doctor provided me Quetiapin Accord which I didn´t use till now. He mentioned I should use it if the next panic attack arrive which dosn´t make sense to me. The medicament takes 30-60min to work. My Panic attacks last max 10-20min.
Now I have two problems. First one I´ve accepted that I suffer from panic attacks. I´ve still have a meeting with neurologist and before a MRT from my head.
But then, I still have from time to time some brain fog, dizzines and Disturbance of vision in the distance from time to time which are a different topic from the panic attacks.
Does anybody have similar issues or deal with panic attacks while using steroids?

I would appreciate any input.

Best Regards,

Get off anything more than TRT for a while until you get your shit together.


Then add in little by little to see what is going on

 

[glpfun]

Increased dopaminergic tone can cause panic attacks. Most of the time people just need to modulate their serotonin to address it. Try a SSRI you can live with.