Mark Kerr
New Member
As some of you know, the Bush Administration is proposing a new Patriot Act deemed "Patriot Act 2" (officially called The Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003) that will be permanent, as opposed to the current Patriot Act which expires soon. I have been reading up on this new proposed legislation, and wanted to point out some sections for everyone:
1. (Sect. 128 & 129) Government can issue a subpoena to a third party including doctors, friends, and parents to turn over information about you. It cannot be contended by you, only the party which is subpoenaed. Also, the subpoena is automatically gag-ordered, and at no point (including even after it is contended) can the third party inform you of the subpoena. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
2. (Sect. 404) Police/government can obtain a credit report about you without you being given notice (thus lifting the notice requirement) and without a court order. If investigated, it must only claim (and I quote) that it was "in connection with their duties to enforce federal law."
3. (Sect. 124) If police get an order to tap any communication device (phone, email, etc.) it can use that order to tap ANY OTHER communication device you have (phone, email, PDA, etc.) There is no more requirement of specificity. Also, if any tap order is given, police then have access to information stored in any communication device (PDA, Hard Drive, etc.) That means if police get an order to tap your phone, they can then intercept emails or even seize your property (computer, PDA). They are not required to show that it was even related to the crime. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
4. (Sect. 302, 303, 306) Police/government is allowed to collect DNA samples to those ONLY SUSPECTED of being terrorists or enemy combatants. No court order is required. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
5. (Sect. 312) Police are now allowed to conduct surveillance of Churches, Mosques, or Protestors, and even keep records of members. It also allows them to attend church meetings and activities. All of this is without a court ordered requirement.
6. (Sect. 201) Detainee Information Exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. Anyone detained for "suspect terrorist activities" has no right of public access to this information. If detained, your parents and family have no right to find out why. You just disappear. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
7. (Sect. 101) Individuals can be foreign powers. This allows an individual with no affiliation with a foreign government or a terrorist organization to be deemed a "foreign power" for government purposes. The purposes would include no need for court ordered surveillance, wire-tapping, record keeping or even detainment without need of public acknowledgment. Again, you just disappear and your family has no right to find out what happened.
Those are some of the Sections of the document so far. The more I read, I will continue to update this thread.
1. (Sect. 128 & 129) Government can issue a subpoena to a third party including doctors, friends, and parents to turn over information about you. It cannot be contended by you, only the party which is subpoenaed. Also, the subpoena is automatically gag-ordered, and at no point (including even after it is contended) can the third party inform you of the subpoena. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
2. (Sect. 404) Police/government can obtain a credit report about you without you being given notice (thus lifting the notice requirement) and without a court order. If investigated, it must only claim (and I quote) that it was "in connection with their duties to enforce federal law."
3. (Sect. 124) If police get an order to tap any communication device (phone, email, etc.) it can use that order to tap ANY OTHER communication device you have (phone, email, PDA, etc.) There is no more requirement of specificity. Also, if any tap order is given, police then have access to information stored in any communication device (PDA, Hard Drive, etc.) That means if police get an order to tap your phone, they can then intercept emails or even seize your property (computer, PDA). They are not required to show that it was even related to the crime. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
4. (Sect. 302, 303, 306) Police/government is allowed to collect DNA samples to those ONLY SUSPECTED of being terrorists or enemy combatants. No court order is required. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
5. (Sect. 312) Police are now allowed to conduct surveillance of Churches, Mosques, or Protestors, and even keep records of members. It also allows them to attend church meetings and activities. All of this is without a court ordered requirement.
6. (Sect. 201) Detainee Information Exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. Anyone detained for "suspect terrorist activities" has no right of public access to this information. If detained, your parents and family have no right to find out why. You just disappear. (This goes against 250 years of legal precedence).
7. (Sect. 101) Individuals can be foreign powers. This allows an individual with no affiliation with a foreign government or a terrorist organization to be deemed a "foreign power" for government purposes. The purposes would include no need for court ordered surveillance, wire-tapping, record keeping or even detainment without need of public acknowledgment. Again, you just disappear and your family has no right to find out what happened.
Those are some of the Sections of the document so far. The more I read, I will continue to update this thread.
