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[Massive_1975]

Think it refers to zopiclone.. otherwise curious on the meaning as well

Yes zopiclone. My reship package has been in customs since last week and that leads me to think they are looking for that product.

 

[newguy2]

TELMISARTAN+CILNIDIPINE+CHLORTHALIDONE

Does anyone know what the dosing is on these?

 

[BP_6]

TELMISARTAN+CILNIDIPINE+CHLORTHALIDONE

Does anyone know what the dosing is on these?

I wasn't aware the 3 combo was on the list. The one I have seen though is 40mg Tela/10mg Cil/6.25 Chlo. I am not 100% sure on the Chlor though, I think there is also a 12.5. Someone can verify which one this is.

 

[newguy2]

I wasn't aware the 3 combo was on the list. The one I have seen though is 40mg Tela/10mg Cil/6.25 Chlo. I am not 100% sure on the Chlor though, I think there is also a 12.5. Someone can verify which one this is.

Maybe I'm crazy but I don't see the third drug as a stand alone

 

[BP_6]

Maybe I'm crazy but I don't see the third drug as a stand alone

The chlor is basically a mild diuretic like HCTZ but longer lasting and better overall generally for BP management. In the US, it comes stand alone 25 and 50mg only. However, in India I have seen it as low as 6.25mg as above.

Healing Pharma appears to have a 40/10/12.5 and a 40/10/6.25. I am sure someone or PCT will chime in who knows which one this is. Not a dramatic difference as in both cases it is quite a low dose, but I too would like to know.

 

[adversi]

 

[BP_6]

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Thank you so much sir! So it is the 6.25 version. I will have to switch to this. I have been cutting my 25mg tabs into 1/4 and it is a pain.

 

[just some dude]

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i do the first 2 + indapamide separately but awesome to see the convenience of a combo exists, kinda like a once a day multivitamin, the diuretic difference in question isn’t even drastic and $1.75 that’s a golden axe in terms of blood pressure.

 

[BP_6]

i do the first 2 + indapamide separately but awesome to see the convenience of a combo exists, kinda like a once a day multivitamin, the diuretic difference in question isn’t even drastic and $1.75 that’s a golden axe in terms of blood pressure.

Absolutely and remember, he now has 25% off all which is even better. Running the numbers, even with my insurance this is a much better deal overall and it is convenient in one pill.

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

TELMISARTAN+CILNIDIPINE+CHLORTHALIDONE

Does anyone know what the dosing is on these?

Telmiheal Trio. Dosing is 40mg/10mg/6.25mg

Nearly perfect combo...one pill per day should suffice for 'cruise' or can increase to two per day for 'blast', or as needed to maximize BP lowering.

Some info re: diuretics...

ARBs like telmisartan and BBs like Nebivolol raise serum potassium, significantly so in a small % of people, and bodybuilders typically have high potassium intakes as meat is a rich source. Chlorthalidone and indapamide are thiazide-type, potassium-losing diuretics, both are a great choice add to an ARB regimen, and are also helpful in preventing kidney stone formation. Indapamide is more potent per mg and has less effect on lipids/glucose.

Loop diuretics ie Lasix/furoesmide, are potassium-losing as well but typically prescribed for those with pre-existing heart/kidney disease, while thiazide-type diuretics are typically prescribed for hypertension in those without heart/kidney disease.

MRAs like eflererone, finererone and spironolactone are potassium-sparing diuretics. Spiro also blocks the androgen receptor. They can cause or contribute to hyperkalemia when used with ARBs/BBs.

CCBs don't affect potassium. Cilnidipine is far better than any available in USA - for those who have high blood pressure with or without androgens, it is worth having a stockpile.

ACE inhibitors have the same end effect as ARBs, but act in the lungs via indirect mechanism rather than having a direct effect in the kidneys. They are obsolete with ARBs on the market, and should never be used or prescribed because of pulmonary side effects - cough and more importantly lung cancer development (independent of other risk factors). Despite plenty of articles about this going back about a decade, doctors for some reason still commonly prescribe them. They do not belong on the USA formulary with better/safer alternatives available.

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

i do the first 2 + indapamide separately but awesome to see the convenience of a combo exists, kinda like a once a day multivitamin, the diuretic difference in question isn’t even drastic and $1.75 that’s a golden axe in terms of blood pressure.

That's my current regimen too. Basically bullet-proof blood pressure control, mine as okay even during a brief period when I went up to 10mg/kg of anabolics per week.

Indapamide may be slight advantages over chlorthalidone but they are very similar drugs at least in terms of effect.

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

Yes zopiclone. My reship package has been in customs since last week and that leads me to think they are looking for that product.

Only things I've gotten confiscation letters for are Zopiclone and carisoprodol. They seem have it out for those two... each seized pack also had another drug I think would be much higher on their interest list, and neither time was it mentioned in the letter.