PCT-Shop Norma Bloods

[BiggBoss]

Decided to test earlier than usual rather than wait a full 6 weeks. This is 72 hrs after 4th pin of 250mg done two times per week. I couldn't make it to the lab at 48hrs. Not sure what to think but they don't seem very good to me. I will have to post hard copies tomorrow or next day because I'm on the road, but here's the bottom line:

Total test: 1190
E2: 15
LH and FSH: ~1.2 (little low)

This is batch ending in 076. Was using aromasin 25 eod. It passed lab max, but I had concerns about whether they were real or not based on the shape of the vials, which is why I tested early. What do you guys think? Others have had good numbers with same batch.

 

[Dema]

Your two weeks in bro! Do you really expect to see a 3000+ level! Your tripping!!! did you get pre cycle bloods?

 

[BiggBoss]

Yeah, pre cycle blood total test was 615. Like I said, tested early bc I was afraid vials looked counterfeit, but I knew there was some test e in it bc lab max was pass and I saw @Dshep with good labs and another with so so labs on same stuff. My thinking is that a single TRT dose of 200 mg dosed once every 2 weeks should give you a value out of range (above 1200) for 2-3 days after pin then slowly decline over 2 weeks to low-normal. I would think that 1000 mg given over 2 weeks would be higher than this. This was upper limit of normal range on the test, and it's not like I started out super low. Not saying I expected to be 3000+ already but at least expected to be above the upper limit of normal. Anyone else have any thoughts?

 

[Wunderpus]

Yeah, pre cycle blood total test was 615. Like I said, tested early bc I was afraid vials looked counterfeit, but I knew there was some test e in it bc lab max was pass and I saw @Dshep with good labs and another with so so labs on same stuff. My thinking is that a single TRT dose of 200 mg dosed once every 2 weeks should give you a value out of range (above 1200) for 2-3 days after pin then slowly decline over 2 weeks to low-normal. I would think that 1000 mg given over 2 weeks would be higher than this. This was upper limit of normal range on the test, and it's not like I started out super low. Not saying I expected to be 3000+ already but at least expected to be above the upper limit of normal. Anyone else have any thoughts?

I really don't understand why you went in so early, or waited 72 hours after the pin....? Where did you shoot it?

I'm not well versed enough to understand where you SHOULD be at this point. But, we do have a system in place that has been more or less effective.

 

[Dshep]

Yeah, pre cycle blood total test was 615. Like I said, tested early bc I was afraid vials looked counterfeit, but I knew there was some test e in it bc lab max was pass and I saw @Dshep with good labs and another with so so labs on same stuff. My thinking is that a single TRT dose of 200 mg dosed once every 2 weeks should give you a value out of range (above 1200) for 2-3 days after pin then slowly decline over 2 weeks to low-normal. I would think that 1000 mg given over 2 weeks would be higher than this. This was upper limit of normal range on the test, and it's not like I started out super low. Not saying I expected to be 3000+ already but at least expected to be above the upper limit of normal. Anyone else have any thoughts?

I wouldn't say

Yeah, pre cycle blood total test was 615. Like I said, tested early bc I was afraid vials looked counterfeit, but I knew there was some test e in it bc lab max was pass and I saw @Dshep with good labs and another with so so labs on same stuff. My thinking is that a single TRT dose of 200 mg dosed once every 2 weeks should give you a value out of range (above 1200) for 2-3 days after pin then slowly decline over 2 weeks to low-normal. I would think that 1000 mg given over 2 weeks would be higher than this. This was upper limit of normal range on the test, and it's not like I started out super low. Not saying I expected to be 3000+ already but at least expected to be above the upper limit of normal. Anyone else have any thoughts?

I wouldn't say 1924 after 5 weeks @500 mg is descent brother. I would of thought it would be higher.
Dshep

 

[Sampei]

pointless come back at 5th or 6th week.

 

[BiggBoss]

I wouldn't say


I wouldn't say 1924 after 5 weeks @500 mg is descent brother. I would of thought it would be higher.
Dshep

You're right, that was my bad. I was thinking of @c_bigsby who had good labs. He seems to be the only one on here that had good results with these.

I really don't understand why you went in so early, or waited 72 hours after the pin....? Where did you shoot it?

I'm not well versed enough to understand where you SHOULD be at this point. But, we do have a system in place that has been more or less effective.

I know it's not ideal timing, but I just had too many questions about these things so didn't want to waste 6 full weeks if they turned out to be garbage. My gut is telling me that they are counterfeit and underdosed. I will be testing again at 6 weeks but not sure it's worth my time to stick to these Norma's.

 

[Dshep]

You're right, that was my bad. I was thinking of @c_bigsby who had good labs. He seems to be the only one on here that had good results with these.
I know it's not ideal timing, but I just had too many questions about these things so didn't want to waste 6 full weeks if they turned out to be garbage. My gut is telling me that they are counterfeit and underdosed. I will be testing again at 6 weeks but not sure it's worth my time to stick to these Norma's.

Mine was a different batch number than yours. I will be getting bloodwork done tomorrow also after 4 weeks on Test C from 24 k. I figure my levels were already at 2000 range so that should be fine to see where I'm at.
Dshep

 

[Wunderpus]

You're right, that was my bad. I was thinking of @c_bigsby who had good labs. He seems to be the only one on here that had good results with these.
I know it's not ideal timing, but I just had too many questions about these things so didn't want to waste 6 full weeks if they turned out to be garbage. My gut is telling me that they are counterfeit and underdosed. I will be testing again at 6 weeks but not sure it's worth my time to stick to these Norma's.

I would be surprised if these were fake, given the availability in Greece. Of course it's possible, though.

I wish I had more to offer here. You either need to decide to run these, or not.

 

[Haunch]

I would be surprised if these were fake, given the availability in Greece. Of course it's possible, though.

I wish I had more to offer here. You either need to decide to run these, or not.

Yes, just run them and tell yourself it's real and not counterfeit and your placebo effect will give you numbers in the 5k's.
I'll be starting my PCT Amps next Wednesday after my bi-annual blood work I get from my doc so I'll have prebloods as well. I have the same batch as Cbigsby had and as far as I can tell from pictures posted, my amps don't look fake.
We'll see.