Personal log from first cycle

[BabaJagga]

Hello,

This will be my personal log from this first blast, as i dont wanna spam Ben's thread too much. Mixture of my notes, rants, hopefully random spam and i would like to reflect in future from my experiences.

I will try make some structure in here but it will be messy probably for while.

Traning is push/pull/legs/push/pull/rest/rest
One day can be switched to rest and training will be done on saturday instead, sunday is always rest.

I (sometimes) count working sets per week, this first blast my focus will be in chest and lats as they need most improvement imo.

So for these, i aim at around 20-22 sets per week split into 2 workouts.

Kcal's i dont measure, eating mostly dry air fried chicken, rice, curd with honey/jam, i like morning shakes with milk and whey, pasta.
Sometimes i have cheat meal but i dont have huge variation in food i eat cause i cant cook and can eat mostly same stuff over and over again.
I aim for around 180-200g protein per day.

So, long story short, after deload week:

23.1.25
First 2,5mg shot of tirz

27.1.25
First shot of 150mg test, 2x per week - 300mg weekly

For next 3 weeks, tirz at 2,5mg, test at 300mg.

20.2.25
Stopped with tirz after 5mg shot week before - couldnt eat for few days, bit of nausea. had to force protein shakes. After this mini cut, my morning fasted weight was 80kg.

24.2.25
Did bloodwork before shot, then bump
to 500mg / week in 2 shots.

Bloods on 300mg weekly:
Test 47.07 nmol/l OR 1357 ng/dl
Estradiol 187.6 pmol/l OR 51.09 pg/ml

No AI so far. I would say, from this first blood test, im below average responder and not aromatizing heavily. I expected esteogen much higher (im srill fat by BB standards)

10.3.25
Popped 1/4 of 25mg aromasin pill, dosing on pin days, 2x weekly, in total 12,5mg weekly.
Wanted to experiment (i should have waited until bloods from 500mg alone... pity) and i was bloated and watery all the time, no matter what i ate.

20.3.25 (copy&paste from bens thread)
im at week 8, week 4 of eating in surpluss, im 11kg heavier (morning fasted 91kg) and not much fatter i would say. i will push it probably till week 16.

second week with ai on 500mg / week and im without emotions suddenly. i feel flat, my mood is "okay" most of the time, not much excitement, bit more short fused, much less bloated and overall, people around me dont like this but i do.

normally, i have very low EQ and im not empathic person at all but now its all switched off. its weird but i like it more this way, feels safer, more predictable. its interesting but i would say this is first time that im aware of hormonal rollercoster.

bloods will be drawn 31.3, until then i have to go by feel with AI, started with 1/4 of aromasin tab 2x per week, on pin days. if i had to go by feels, i think its more than enough but numbers will tell...

anyway, feeling strong, hungry, lot of energy in gym, good focus, bit worse sleep (im hungry until late night and too early in morning).

im not mentally that horny anymore (thats +) but i have strong errections without any impulse (thats -). i lost ability to cum from jerking off 95% of time which is weird. i would prefer "deca dick", or no libido and errections tbh... this is weird.

anyway, in next 8 weeks i would
like to push another 5kg max and then cruise, probably on 200mg starting dose.
i will maintain for 4 weeks and then cut until im happy.

 

[Nidus]

Following!

 

[BabaJagga]

if anyone is interested, im using test c 250mg/ml, pinning with 27G x 3/4" braun needles coupled with braun 1ml syringes, green ones. i like them cause they have little spike at the tip so no oil is left in tip of syringe when im done.

doin quads and side delts, so far quads are far more comfortable then delts, i dont even notice it there.
delts on the other hand are not pleasent at all, i can feel every pin there. during cruise i will try 30G x 1/2" for them so will see

after next blood test i will probably increase injection frequency from monday & thursday to M/W/F, i expect more steady levels from that.

im already curious what blood levels i will get from 200mg, in theory, my response rn is 4,5x the mg so 200 could put me around 900 ng/dl, not sure if it will be linear like that but that will be starting dose.

Also, this dose should put estradiol in check, i was very very sllghtly above reference range on 300mg (181ref vs 184, nmol/l)

 

[BabaJagga]

as i dont wanna motor oil instead of blood, im drinking plenty of water. ussuall morning routine is around 1,5L right after i wake up.
Until lunch time, i try to drink another 1,5L (office job) and during lunch its another 1L.
Workouts are normally 1,5-2h max after lunch, 2L during workout and after that until i go to sleep another 2,5-3L.

So this is somewhere around 9-10L ussuall day, without much else activity. Thats slight increase from my normal drinking habbits but i always did drink much more water than other people. During summer months i sweat like crazy so more water ofc. Hopefully this will prevent high hematocrit and thick blood.

 

[BabaJagga]

as for BP, i chexk it regularly, only one time i saw 135/75 i think but ussually im under 120/70, its quite normal for me to have dystoic under 60.

for example, last 2 readings from evening:
113/54, pulse 65
111/64, pulse 59

will monitor that but so far im on lower end and thats without cardio, with 10mg cialis daily. i hope it wont climb high in future as i hate doin cardio in gym

 

[BabaJagga]

i fcked up a bit i think. i was greedy mf and tried 50mg of var pre workout, pull day.

after first set of barbell rows my forearms were like concrete, okay... everything else was great, more mental focus, more energy, bit more strenght, i could do more reps and better mind-muscle connection.

aaand then there were hyperextensions. ussually, i work my way to 2x20kg plates but today after 20+10, 8-9 reps maybe, my lower back went into solid mode. writting this from gym where im sitting, unable to move, in most painfull pump ever.
im pretty used to pumps from this excercise but this is from another world...

anyway, great experience, i will try it sometime in future but for now, its too much.

 

[Nidus]

i fcked up a bit i think. i was greedy mf and tried 50mg of var pre workout, pull day.

after first set of barbell rows my forearms were like concrete, okay... everything else was great, more mental focus, more energy, bit more strenght, i could do more reps and better mind-muscle connection.

aaand then there were hyperextensions. ussually, i work my way to 2x20kg plates but today after 20+10, 8-9 reps maybe, my lower back went into solid mode. writting this from gym where im sitting, unable to move, in most painfull pump ever.
im pretty used to pumps from this excercise but this is from another world...

anyway, great experience, i will try it sometime in future but for now, its too much.

Add Taurin. 2-4g Daily, should fix it

 

[BabaJagga]

Add Taurin. 2-4g Daily, should fix it

i will try it. i have 3-4 sets of hyperextensions 2x per week and always as last excercise cause pump is so bad.

 

[Nidus]

i will try it. i have 3-4 sets of hyperextensions 2x per week and always as last excercise cause pump is so bad.

I have about 6g Taurin daily in the system, takes a while to build up but greatly helps!

 

[dinfar1337]

Hello,

This will be my personal log from this first blast, as i dont wanna spam Ben's thread too much. Mixture of my notes, rants, hopefully random spam and i would like to reflect in future from my experiences.

I will try make some structure in here but it will be messy probably for while.

Traning is push/pull/legs/push/pull/rest/rest
One day can be switched to rest and training will be done on saturday instead, sunday is always rest.

I (sometimes) count working sets per week, this first blast my focus will be in chest and lats as they need most improvement imo.

So for these, i aim at around 20-22 sets per week split into 2 workouts.

Kcal's i dont measure, eating mostly dry air fried chicken, rice, curd with honey/jam, i like morning shakes with milk and whey, pasta.
Sometimes i have cheat meal but i dont have huge variation in food i eat cause i cant cook and can eat mostly same stuff over and over again.
I aim for around 180-200g protein per day.

So, long story short, after deload week:

23.1.25
First 2,5mg shot of tirz

27.1.25
First shot of 150mg test, 2x per week - 300mg weekly

For next 3 weeks, tirz at 2,5mg, test at 300mg.

20.2.25
Stopped with tirz after 5mg shot week before - couldnt eat for few days, bit of nausea. had to force protein shakes. After this mini cut, my morning fasted weight was 80kg.

24.2.25
Did bloodwork before shot, then bump
to 500mg / week in 2 shots.

Bloods on 300mg weekly:
Test 47.07 nmol/l OR 1357 ng/dl
Estradiol 187.6 pmol/l OR 51.09 pg/ml

No AI so far. I would say, from this first blood test, im below average responder and not aromatizing heavily. I expected esteogen much higher (im srill fat by BB standards)

10.3.25
Popped 1/4 of 25mg aromasin pill, dosing on pin days, 2x weekly, in total 12,5mg weekly.
Wanted to experiment (i should have waited until bloods from 500mg alone... pity) and i was bloated and watery all the time, no matter what i ate.

20.3.25 (copy&paste from bens thread)
im at week 8, week 4 of eating in surpluss, im 11kg heavier (morning fasted 91kg) and not much fatter i would say. i will push it probably till week 16.

second week with ai on 500mg / week and im without emotions suddenly. i feel flat, my mood is "okay" most of the time, not much excitement, bit more short fused, much less bloated and overall, people around me dont like this but i do.

normally, i have very low EQ and im not empathic person at all but now its all switched off. its weird but i like it more this way, feels safer, more predictable. its interesting but i would say this is first time that im aware of hormonal rollercoster.

bloods will be drawn 31.3, until then i have to go by feel with AI, started with 1/4 of aromasin tab 2x per week, on pin days. if i had to go by feels, i think its more than enough but numbers will tell...

anyway, feeling strong, hungry, lot of energy in gym, good focus, bit worse sleep (im hungry until late night and too early in morning).

im not mentally that horny anymore (thats +) but i have strong errections without any impulse (thats -). i lost ability to cum from jerking off 95% of time which is weird. i would prefer "deca dick", or no libido and errections tbh... this is weird.

anyway, in next 8 weeks i would
like to push another 5kg max and then cruise, probably on 200mg starting dose.
i will maintain for 4 weeks and then cut until im happy.

my questions is do you really need to skip legs? i feel like 99.9% of everyone has so dominant quads and no hammies at all. i personally done 2-3 hamstrings weekly and quads only 1 time/weekly for half a year and my quads are still dominant.

everything else fully looks good, great bloodwork, maybe lower cruise but fucking add cardio man haha.
im following this log now!

 

[BabaJagga]

my questions is do you really need to skip legs? i feel like 99.9% of everyone has so dominant quads and no hammies at all. i personally done 2-3 hamstrings weekly and quads only 1 time/weekly for half a year and my quads are still dominant.

everything else fully looks good, great bloodwork, maybe lower cruise but fucking add cardio man haha.
im following this log now!

i dont skip them, i train them only once per week, not twice, like upper body.
my legs are my strongest body part, they always were. i spent all
my childhood as fat kid on bicycle 24/7 so i have strong legs. i actually enjoy leg days and muscle soreness from it. recently, for the first time, i threw up after super heavy dropset on legpress i was super happy, had a great training with friend

ussually, for quads i do warmup with squats (cant go heavy and deep cause of knees) with like 60kg, then heavy legpress, hacksquat on machine and leg extensions (for quads, not sure if its right name).
then laying leg curl and rdl or reversed hack squat on same machine for hams and glutes.
+ calves cause why not, i can go heavy on them, they are big-ish and can take beating.

also, i forgot to add but M/W/F is abs training, ussually crunches on machine (again im not sure if its correct name) torso rotation for obliques and leg raises for lower abs, 4 work sets each.

cardio will be added when weather will be a bit better, i cant wait to sit on bike and go. ussually, i do 50km under 2 hours multiple times per week as hobby that i do cause i enjoy it.

no cardio in gym cause thats... straight depressive .. i did it few times during winter but its... meh. hour on bike or walking on max incline is super boring, i prefer to be outside.
anyway, it looks like next week it could be better outside finally so i will hop on bike and go.

cruise will start at 200, after 4 weeks i wanna draw blood for test and adjust if needed.