Pharm vs Ugl opinion

[bambam333]

Been researching around alot and wanted to see anyones opinions on how what they think if theres a difference for say 200mg of any pharm compound vs 200mg tested at 200mg of same ugl compound. Same shit or is pharm grade still superior some how not counting impurities of ugl? for instance bayer primo vs ugl primo same exact mg for mg

 

[Eman]

200mg is 200mg. Consistency may vary with UGL however.

 

[tengtren]

My opinion is if you can afford it and be sure they're not fakes, as much pharm as is available.

I've never compared bloods from ugl Test to human grade test but anecdotally Iran Hormone, Aburaihan and Aspen test amps I've used were superior most noticeably pip/swelling. Can pin 4ml in one spot with no pip and minimal swelling. Most ugl I've had that's not the case.

The thing for me is as far as pharm goes, easily available is really only Test, Anadrol and primo. Deca if you want to pin 6+ ml a week of just that as it's only comes 50mg/ml maybe 100

 

[bambam333]

My opinion is if you can afford it and be sure they're not fakes, as much pharm as is available.

I've never compared bloods from ugl Test to human grade test but anecdotally Iran Hormone, Aburaihan and Aspen test amps I've used were superior most noticeably pip/swelling. Can pin 4ml in one spot with no pip and minimal swelling. Most ugl I've had that's not the case.

The thing for me is as far as pharm goes, easily available is really only Test, Anadrol and primo. Deca if you want to pin 6+ ml a week of just that as it's only comes 50mg/ml maybe 100

So you would agree even if they are both exactly 200mg the Pharma would still be superior impurities aside.

 

[tengtren]

So you would agree even if they are both exactly 200mg the Pharma would still be superior impurities aside.

My opinion yes whether it's raw quality or whatever there something to it

 

[bob357sig]

Im planning on trying sust for the first time my next cycle, I will definitely be getting pharma for my first run of it so i can get a good feel for how the mix of esters really feels compared to test E or C. I want pharma so I don’t have to worry about the “variables “ of ugl dosages, wrong mix of esters and sometimes missing an ester. I know some ugl test good on their sust but going with what @tengtren said, pip is usually better with pharma and I get enough pip from any ester of test i use anyway, just trying to hopefully minimize that.

 

[bambam333]

My opinion yes whether it's raw quality or whatever there something to it

interesting because I have been in a debate with myself for next run on whether to run ugl primo which has tested correct or bayer but the price of running bayer at 800 a week for 16 weeks is hard to justify for me

 

[bambam333]

200mg is 200mg. Consistency may vary with UGL however.

good thats more the answer I thought and was hoping to hear had to ask though becuase its about the 5th time ive read something

 

[Thaistick]

My opinion is if you can afford it and be sure they're not fakes, as much pharm as is available.

I've never compared bloods from ugl Test to human grade test but anecdotally Iran Hormone, Aburaihan and Aspen test amps I've used were superior most noticeably pip/swelling. Can pin 4ml in one spot with no pip and minimal swelling. Most ugl I've had that's not the case.

The thing for me is as far as pharm goes, easily available is really only Test, Anadrol and primo. Deca if you want to pin 6+ ml a week of just that as it's only comes 50mg/ml maybe 100

I agree with this. If I want to use it and it's available pharmaceutical grade that is what I use. I have a prescription for way more test than I use, deca and var. I will use UGL var or tbol but I don't like UGL injectables if I can help it. I noticed as tengtren said that with the UGL deca I had I got a little bit of pip and swelling that I never got with pharm. Carrier, solvents or something irritated my tissue.

 

[porky]

Pharm test has always been "thick" in consistency. Not sure what carrier oil or solvents , but thats been my experience.

 

[Test_Subject]

UGL is perfectly capable of being as good as pharma, but consistency is the issue. It really depends on the brewer and the quality of the raws with UGL gear.

Pharma will be good every time but is obviously a lot more money.

If it's dosed accurately, 200mg is 200mg regardless of source.

 

[bambam333]

Pharm test has always been "thick" in consistency. Not sure what carrier oil or solvents , but thats been my experience.

my scripts come gso and cottonseed oil

 

[Rosconow]

If the price isn't prohibitive, i'd choose pharma every time (cleaner, gmp facilities, qc testing, etc.) But if you know your ug source is good.... that's 80% of my blasts. Really just for cost and ease of availability.

 

[Savagesteve]

interesting because I have been in a debate with myself for next run on whether to run ugl primo which has tested correct or bayer but the price of running bayer at 800 a week for 16 weeks is hard to justify for me

Not to mention, isn’t Bayer also only 100mg/ml? That’s a lot of damn oil

 

[bambam333]

Not to mention, isn’t Bayer also only 100mg/ml? That’s a lot of damn oil

ha yes it is which is another reason why im leaning toward ugl 8cc alone on primo is going to be a hassle along with other compounds

 

[Savagesteve]

ha yes it is which is another reason why im leaning toward ugl 8cc alone on primo is going to be a hassle along with other compounds

Agreed. That’s why I was glad I found a ugl that had it at 200 without eo

 

[Den84]

Ugl for life. the best ugl of today, are able to produce high quality drugs, such as pharmaceutical companies. Almost always, I have had less pip using ugl, than using pharma grade, because pharmaceutical company still using outdated carrier oil which are often very viscous... for example Bayer still using castor oil and is very very viscous, in fact the worst pip of my life has been with test E Bayer from my local pharmacy.

Furthermore in 2019, all people can analyze all, before a cycle...

 

[Xragexx]

I believe 200mg is 200mg. However a lot of UGL raws test with having heavy metals. You would think pharma wouldn’t but who knows.

I stick with ugl for price and I try to always use someone who is consistent with their testing.

 

[bambam333]

Ugl for life. the best ugl of today, are able to produce high quality drugs, such as pharmaceutical companies. Almost always, I have had less pip using ugl, than using pharma grade, because pharmaceutical company still using outdated carrier oil which are often very viscous... for example Bayer still using castor oil and is very very viscous, in fact the worst pip of my life has been with test E Bayer from my local pharmacy.

Furthermore in 2019, all people can analyze all, before a cycle...

really castor oil shit I didnt know that or ever heard of it as a carrier

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I believe 200mg is 200mg. However a lot of UGL raws test with having heavy metals. You would think pharma wouldn’t but who knows.

Where did you see this? Show me 6 examples.