Pharmacom and basicstero

I had test e 250 mg/ml for after my kickstart of the dbol and the tren ace because tren ace is supposed to work pretty quickly bein a short ester. But I did not complete my cycle do to the dbol and tren not workin out for me
Ummm...guys...it might just be me, but I usually don't really notice anything till my second vial of tren...you can't just stop your cycle cause you Dont see anything mate...

Were you pinning every day with it? You know with tren a you will need to pin every day...
 
You don't need to pin ACE ED. EOD is fine I have done mountains of both.
If you don't see some sides from Tren A in two weeks it is shit gear.
Doesn't have to be everything in the book, but you better feel something. I get extremely violent dreams and insomnia a week in. Piss is damn near brown after ten days.

If @Brenton1 really ran it for 20 days and didn't see anything I would question if his accusations carry some validity.
 
If you want the results tren A can get you. The acetate ester is a very short one. You need to study about the esters the hormones are attached too.
I'm very familiar about the esters lol. I placed "need" in quotations because the ace or prop esters can work just as effectively EOD.
 
Well for some it may be just as effective but others it's not. If I'm gonna spend my hard earned money on these products I want to make sure I use them in a way I get the maximum benefit. If every other day works for you then hallelujah brother!
 
You don't need to pin ACE ED. EOD is fine I have done mountains of both.
If you don't see some sides from Tren A in two weeks it is shit gear.
Doesn't have to be everything in the book, but you better feel something. I get extremely violent dreams and insomnia a week in. Piss is damn near brown after ten days.

If @Brenton1 really ran it for 20 days and didn't see anything I would question if his accusations carry some validity.
Fella he's pinning 100mg every other day...half life is about a day. Not saying you won't have results EOD but you maximize your results pinning every day
 
Go to steroidgraph.com and plot 100/eod vs 50/Ed.
Yes the peaks and troughs are higher and lower pinning 100 eod vs 50 ed. Will it make a noticeable difference in results? Possibly. But many people run short esters and have done it both ways for a long time with no problem. Just the other day in a thread about dbol one of the docs around here said they prefer to take all their dbol at once specifically for the higher peaks. So if your gonna run the same total gear either way, whether you want higher peaks or more steady levels I would say is entirely up to the individual.
 
I have seen no studies showing a marked difference in body composition between ED v. EOD injections. It reallly is a personal preference. I don't want to hijack the thread on this topic, but some may read this and think they have to be a pin cushion to get "optimal" results with short esters (ace or prop), and that just isn't the case...IMHO.
 
I usually pin ED with ace, but that's just because it's easier to remember and I can pin smaller amounts at a time, so I can pins pecs, front delts, traps ect...

The only thing ED will help with is getting to stable serum concentrations sooner.
 
Well I'm glad everyone is like you and can do eod. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for all. Regarding tren a, Ed solves some side problems vs eod. I don't understand the science behind it but I'm guessing it has to do with the rapid change in peaks too troughs. Like I mentioned, I'm happy for you that you don't have to do Ed.
 
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