MESO-Rx Sponsor Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

[see-zar]

I thought kind of a cowboy hat with it... or probably to make a special promo photo with one of our girl athletes topless in a cowboy hat with Pharmacom logo... special for USA customers...

you could also consider hats or shirts for special, USA customers, not just special for USA customers

 

[Fckit]

^^^ Wtf is going on with this sentence bro?

 

[paulietuck]

My opinion we are worried about the wrong shit here...pins hats etc....Lets focus on getting the gear out, maxed and get some bros on it..this all sounds good, everything looks good, but until we get things rolling here I say we focus on properly dosed, clean and affordable gear....

Im not knocking you by any means PHARMACON, but at the end of the day it is what it is....

 

[MoriorInvictus]

^^^ I hear you Paulie.

@Pharmacom Labs just because you have a bunch of guys wearing tight shirts with your logo on it doesn't mean shit!!

You can send the hats out to the members that make anonymous purchases and spend their own money to LM your gear and run bloods.

This thread was starting to turn into a fucking shill party.

 

[see-zar]

you could also consider hats or shirts for special, USA customers, not just special for USA customers

I was just being stupid with the word "special".... special hats for customers in the USA .......hats for "special" people in the USA.
it was just a stupid attempt of a joke,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have literally been awake for around 72 hours insomnia sucks

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

Let's take a deep breath and have a look around and be sure posts like this don't slip through the filter. The filter doesn't buy into the hype and get carried away with itself.
This reminds me of the dietary supplements that borrow the brand name of a very recognizable aas and but adds or takes away a letter or 2 so as to not infringe on the name and rattle the cage of the legal department at one of the Big Boys. Adopting a name as I've described often times fools the less informed(ignorant) and could be just the thing that makes the sale for the worthless supplement.
I've used pharmacom and I was pleased. I've spoken with Darius and I've found him to be on the ball, hard working, and willing to help members here at meso.
One of our newer members logged on to a scam site thinking he was ordering from the site Darius is affiliated with. He wasn't, and the scamming fucks got our members money. The member approached Darius in an aggressive manner and made a thread naming Darius and Pharmacom and pinning the "scam" label on them both. Darius was gracious and sent the member the 100ct oxandrolone he ordered and paid the scamming site for. Above and beyond.
That was great....but it doesn't make Pharmacom Pharmacy/Human grade aas. That's because Pharmacom is a UGL. They may prove to be one of the better UGL's that pop up, but they are a UGL nevertheless.
I would hope "Frank" would co-sign what I'm saying here. We've gone down this road with Alpha Pharm and Asia Pharm. They both claimed to be Pharm Grade. World Pharm and their rep "Mathew Jasper" went down swinging with 1 hand on a bible swearing to God Almighty that Asia was pharm grade. Both were shown to be UGL's.
The benefits of selling Pharm Grade test has it "benefits" to both buyer and seller. To the seller it justifies a $140.00 price tag on a vial of test Cyp that would otherwise command no more than $40 to $45.
Speaking of price. We see prices all over the place in regards to the gear these ugl's sell. Test Prop 100mg/ml we see starting at $20 and on up to $40(more than $40??) Many of these guys are buying in bulk or wholesale and then putting their tax on top of that price before offering it up and trying to justify the price. The justifying often times leads to fibs and white lies but then also to elaborate schemes to give a UGL the appearance of being more than they actually are.

I couldn't agree more. I believe frank mentioned that pharmacom was pharma grade. Look at the earlier posts or maybe it was one of the other basicstero threads. I'm not saying they are or arent. My comment was the prices weren't bad IF IF IF IF they are. Believe me BB, I'm not waving any banners and singing hallelujah.

 

[Wunderpus]

It will be very difficult to determine the expected TT levels using Sustanon bc of the variable half lives from the different esters.

It's always best to use either T-C or T-E if the intent is to determine if the UGL dose-response curve is consistent with existing Pharm norms.

Thanks for this Doc, I always wondered. Makes sense.

 

[pumpingiron22]

Thanks jim

 

[PHL Official]

Let me see if I understand you correctly. Your "guy" used an internet graphic standard as a substitute for the genuine article?

Yes I can see that's exactly what was done.

And that is NOT a listed portion of ANY MS or HPLC protocol I'm aware of.

There are several reasons for this BUT suffice it to say bc your results are NOT compared to a USP or similar standard they do NOT MEET EXISTING LABORATORY PROCEDURAL CRITERIA.

Mate, I do not understant a lot in these things. First of all I want to pay your attention to the fact, that you choses only one article about trenbolone as example. Well, yes, I see, our guy used graphic standards... But man, not just from internet somewhere from Facebook. There are links there. And the source was USP - United States Pharmacopoeia, guys, I think you all know, what is it. This is a book containing directions for the identification of compound medicines, and published by the authority of a government or a medical or pharmaceutical society. It was not a substitute, but article authorised by USP. If you do not trust to their results... sorry, in this case you are really too sceptic!
Moreover, this was just one example for you. In another tests, for example with oxandrolone we used real reference samples to evaluate the purity and volume.

Finally the testing of raws that any UGL has purchased is NEVER what the consumer receives in the mail.

Well it is a brilliant argument. Really. As per this judgment all evidences I provide here means nothing and in any case consumers get something different... For what in this case are all these discusstions and asks to prove the quality, etc. Wuth your argument one can break any evidence here. Or... not any... we check not only raw materials. We check also final products, not all of course, partially. I have mentioned in the very beginning, our equipment is fully automated and we check setting before each new batch. If one vials or pill was underdosed, it would mean that or pills and vials in this batch are underdosed too. So, we check several vials and pills from each batch and if they are ok, the entire batch is considered as proven. And as evidence I intentionally attached results of oxandrolone analysis, which has been performed with the final product and not raw materials. And as reference sample was used real oxandrolone sample and not as you say article substitutes. As per this analysis our pills have the manifested amount of oxandrolone, taking into account a small tolerance of course.

Consequently until your products are assayed by anonymous consumers, using approved analytical protocols, your products remain UNTESTED IMO.

Ok, I meet the challenge. If you are skeptikal to our chromotographic results, let`s do the following. Let`s choose 10 trusted and active members of Meso forum. I will ship to them 10 samples free of charge!!! I undertake also delivery costs. And I provide you a choice. You can choose any item, which we have in our USA domestic warehouse left or we will give to these 10 persons our products worth 100$ in value for each from our factory with international delivery! You also will be able how to receive them. We can shipp all in original boxes, with original labels and codes or to reduce risk of custom seizures we can ship all items with fake labels as massage oil. It is up to you!!!
So, our programmers prepared today the third section of our site - for international delivery. Here it the link:

http://int.basicstero.com/

For now this is just copy of USA section. But within 24 hours our boss will determine final prices for our products for international delivery and we start international shippings from China to any place in the world, to USA as well. So, these 10 trusted persons will be able to chose products for 100$, which I add to their accounts, and we ship these samples for free. Or you can buy products anonymously. Hence, we proveide all possible options, to chose left items from USA domestic warehouse, to send free items for worth 100$ in value with or without original boxes or you buy anonymously. And after these these 10 persons will test our products. Or, which is better, you can gather a required money amount and order a chromotographic check in some of labs you trust. In USA or another country. I do not mind guys. Let`s do it!!! I hope after these it will be finished with all discussions regarding the quality. In this term I suggested / offered everything I could. All other things are not up to me.

Let's take a deep breath and have a look around and be sure posts like this don't slip through the filter. The filter doesn't buy into the hype and get carried away with itself.
This reminds me of the dietary supplements that borrow the brand name of a very recognizable aas and but adds or takes away a letter or 2 so as to not infringe on the name and rattle the cage of the legal department at one of the Big Boys. Adopting a name as I've described often times fools the less informed(ignorant) and could be just the thing that makes the sale for the worthless supplement.
I've used pharmacom and I was pleased. I've spoken with Darius and I've found him to be on the ball, hard working, and willing to help members here at meso.
One of our newer members logged on to a scam site thinking he was ordering from the site Darius is affiliated with. He wasn't, and the scamming fucks got our members money. The member approached Darius in an aggressive manner and made a thread naming Darius and Pharmacom and pinning the "scam" label on them both. Darius was gracious and sent the member the 100ct oxandrolone he ordered and paid the scamming site for. Above and beyond.
That was great....but it doesn't make Pharmacom Pharmacy/Human grade aas. That's because Pharmacom is a UGL. They may prove to be one of the better UGL's that pop up, but they are a UGL nevertheless.
I would hope "Frank" would co-sign what I'm saying here. We've gone down this road with Alpha Pharm and Asia Pharm. They both claimed to be Pharm Grade. World Pharm and their rep "Mathew Jasper" went down swinging with 1 hand on a bible swearing to God Almighty that Asia was pharm grade. Both were shown to be UGL's.
The benefits of selling Pharm Grade test has it "benefits" to both buyer and seller. To the seller it justifies a $140.00 price tag on a vial of test Cyp that would otherwise command no more than $40 to $45.
Speaking of price. We see prices all over the place in regards to the gear these ugl's sell. Test Prop 100mg/ml we see starting at $20 and on up to $40(more than $40??) Many of these guys are buying in bulk or wholesale and then putting their tax on top of that price before offering it up and trying to justify the price. The justifying often times leads to fibs and white lies but then also to elaborate schemes to give a UGL the appearance of being more than they actually are.

I couldn't agree more. I believe frank mentioned that pharmacom was pharma grade. Look at the earlier posts or maybe it was one of the other basicstero threads. I'm not saying they are or arent. My comment was the prices weren't bad IF IF IF IF they are. Believe me BB, I'm not waving any banners and singing hallelujah.

Well... the question comes up again. Guys, I wish I could tell you more, but I am not allowed for safety reasons, you all understand this. I will say, what I can. A am not a specialist in your law and definitions, I guess Pharma grade means for you - approved by the USA goverment or health administration, etc. If so, you will never get here a pharma grade source, just cause steroids are prohibited in most of countries and such compounds as boldenone or trenbolone were not intended for human use, they are veterinary drugs and no one official authority will confirm them for human use. Never!
But official authorization and products quality / pureness are absolutely different things! Yes, we do not have any authorizations in USA or Europe. In this meaning I agree, we are UGL. But i manifistated this and still confirming the fact, that our products are of pharma grade quality. You know why? I can not tell you more, but I can tell, that we produce our products on existing manufacturing facilities of one of big Chinese pharmaceutical phacthories, which has GMP certification, cromotograph and other equipment and conditions to guarantee top-notch quality. We use this chromotograph and equipment under definite circamstances and terms, which I can not reveal here. So, I am still confirming and will always confirm, that our products are of top-notch pharma-grade quality! And this is not easy... due to row material suppliers first of all. Lot of them supply really low quality products. For example know we looking for a supplier of high quality sibutramin and Cabergolinum, which we are going to produce too. We checked 5 suppliers and the quality of all of them was unsatisfactory. Even the sam supplier can have different batches with different qualities, that is why we so carefully check samples from each batch befor we buy it in big quantities. This is also the reason, why we sometimes have delays and not enough products to deliver to our big bulk customers. People who places orders for 500000$ and higher know, what I am speaking about... So, guys, I know, there are a lot of scammers around, but our company is ruled by guys, know on their experience, what does it mean, not to be able to find a quality product, especially it this is a black market. And we do not have the goal to gain as much money as possible! The quality and our reputation is our priority Nr.1. So, anyone of you can in any time take any product and take a chronometric analisys, we only welcome this idea!
Thas was all I wanted to say. Sorry for a long post. Going to Gym now. so long! And sorry for my english!

 

[MoriorInvictus]

Ok, I meet the challenge. If you are skeptikal to our chromotographic results, let`s do the following. Let`s choose 10 trusted and active members of Meso forum. I will ship to them 10 samples free of charge!!! I undertake also delivery costs. And I provide you a choice. You can choose any item, which we have in our USA domestic warehouse left or we will give to these 10 persons our products worth 100$ in value for each from our factory with international delivery! You also will be able how to receive them. We can shipp all in original boxes, with original labels and codes or to reduce risk of custom seizures we can ship all items with fake labels as massage oil. It is up to you!!!

No freebies around here. Only products that were purchased anonymously will qualify for testing.

Oh, and it really is a pain in the ass to try and decipher what exactly it is you are trying to say. If you're using a translator, try and get a better one

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

@Pharmacom Labs
Where can the protection codes be located on the product.

 

[Dr JIM]

Im not knocking you by any means PHARMACON, but at the end of the day it is what it is....

Well I damn sure am, and there will be even more criticism to come after I thoroughly review their analytical data. I've seen it all before!

 

[Dr JIM]

Mate, I do not understant a lot in these things. First of all I want to pay your attention to the fact, that you choses only one article about trenbolone as example. 1) Well, yes, I see, our guy used graphic standards... But man, not just from internet somewhere from Facebook. There are links there. 1) And the source was USP - United States Pharmacopoeia, guys, I think you all know, what is it. This is a book containing directions for the identification of compound medicines, and published by the authority of a government or a medical or pharmaceutical society. It was not a substitute, but article authorised by USP. If you do not trust to their results... sorry, in this case you are really too sceptic!
Moreover, this was just one example for you. In another tests, for example with oxandrolone we used real reference samples to evaluate the purity and volume.


Well it is a brilliant argument. Really. As per this judgment all evidences I provide here means nothing and in any case consumers get something different... For what in this case are all these discusstions and asks to prove the quality, etc. Wuth your argument one can break any evidence here. Or... not any... we check not only raw materials. We check also final products, not all of course, partially. I have mentioned in the very beginning, our equipment is fully automated and we check setting before each new batch. If one vials or pill was underdosed, it would mean that or pills and vials in this batch are underdosed too. So, we check several vials and pills from each batch and if they are ok, the entire batch is considered as proven. And as evidence I intentionally attached results of oxandrolone analysis, which has been performed with the final product and not raw materials. And as reference sample was used real oxandrolone sample and not as you say article substitutes. As per this analysis our pills have the manifested amount of oxandrolone, taking into account a small tolerance of course.


Ok, I meet the challenge. If you are skeptikal to our chromotographic results, let`s do the following.2) Let`s choose 10 trusted and active members of Meso forum. I will ship to them 10 samples free of charge!!! I undertake also delivery costs. And I provide you a choice. You can choose any item, which we have in our USA domestic warehouse left or we will give to these 10 persons our products worth 100$ in value for each from our factory with international delivery! You also will be able how to receive them. We can shipp all in original boxes, with original labels and codes or to reduce risk of custom seizures we can ship all items with fake labels as massage oil. It is up to you!!!
So, our programmers prepared today the third section of our site - for international delivery. Here it the link:

http://int.basicstero.com/

For now this is just copy of USA section. But within 24 hours our boss will determine final prices for our products for international delivery and we start international shippings from China to any place in the world, to USA as well. So, these 10 trusted persons will be able to chose products for 100$, which I add to their accounts, and we ship these samples for free. Or you can buy products anonymously. Hence, we proveide all possible options, to chose left items from USA domestic warehouse, to send free items for worth 100$ in value with or without original boxes or you buy anonymously. And after these these 10 persons will test our products. Or, which is better, you can gather a required money amount and order a chromotographic check in some of labs you trust. In USA or another country. I do not mind guys. Let`s do it!!! I hope after these it will be finished with all discussions regarding the quality. In this term I suggested / offered everything I could. All other things are not up to me.





Well... the question comes up again. Guys, I wish I could tell you more, but I am not allowed for safety reasons, you all understand this. I will say, what I can. A am not a specialist in your law and definitions,3) I guess Pharma grade means for you - approved by the USA goverment or health administration, etc. If so, you will never get here a pharma grade source, just cause steroids are prohibited in most of countries and such compounds as boldenone or trenbolone were not intended for human use, they are veterinary drugs and no one official authority will confirm them for human use. Never!
But official authorization and products quality / pureness are absolutely different things! Yes, we do not have any authorizations in USA or Europe. In this meaning I agree, we are UGL. But i manifistated this and still confirming the fact, that our products are of pharma grade quality. You know why? I can not tell you more, but I can tell, that we produce our products on existing manufacturing facilities of one of big Chinese pharmaceutical phacthories, which has GMP certification, cromotograph and other equipment and conditions to guarantee top-notch quality. 4)We use this chromotograph and equipment under definite circamstances and terms, which I can not reveal here. So, I am still confirming and will always confirm, that our products are of top-notch pharma-grade quality! And this is not easy... due to row material suppliers first of all. Lot of them supply really low quality products. For example know we looking for a supplier of high quality sibutramin and Cabergolinum, which we are going to produce too. We checked 5 suppliers and the quality of all of them was unsatisfactory. Even the sam supplier can have different batches with different qualities, that is why we so carefully check samples from each batch befor we buy it in big quantities. This is also the reason, why we sometimes have delays and not enough products to deliver to our big bulk customers. People who places orders for 500000$ and higher know, what I am speaking about... So, guys, I know, there are a lot of scammers around, but our company is ruled by guys, know on their experience, what does it mean, not to be able to find a quality product, especially it this is a black market. And we do not have the goal to gain as much money as possible! The quality and our reputation is our priority Nr.1. So, anyone of you can in any time take any product and take a chronometric analisys, we only welcome this idea!
Thas was all I wanted to say. Sorry for a long post. Going to Gym now. so long! And sorry for my english!

1) You need to get your "guy" on here to discuss this objection bc it's clear you have no idea what Im referring to.

2) Do you know the meaning of anonymous? Sending select members your "good stuff" so they can openly advertise on Meso for Pharmacon, is NOT anonymous but directed sampling and is full of bias. Oh I'm sure several members are offering their services as we speak but their reviews are TAINTED and must not be trusted.

3) Bla bla bla

4) you have already proven you don't know WTF that equipment is used for and how it's rightfully used, but I promise you this, your company is NOT performing any assays we haven't seen before, so stop the secrecy BULLSHIT!

 

[paulietuck]

Well I damn sure am, and there will be even more criticism to come after I thoroughly review their analytical data. I've seen it all before!

I could have phrased that 100 different ways i guess. But i assumed all of meso was of the same opinion as I was, ALL new ugls where guilty until proven innocent!!!!

 

[brandon706]

is everything sold out?

 

[see-zar]

Keep checking because some stuff is tied up in other people's cart and pharmacom will clear carts after 3 days.

 

[noah_k]

is everything sold out?

Check here http://us.basicstero.com/category/show/25 anything that doesn't say "product unavailable" in the domestic section is presumably still there (in tiny quantities)

 

[DeM0NiCs]

is everything sold out?

I just snatched up the last of the test p the other day... 65 bux for 2 vials with shipping. Has anyone ordered from both Basicstero and pharmacon.in? Consensus being both sites are gtg?

 

[BeastModeSparty]

Anyone get their stuff and labmax it yet? Trying to get any good word from membees before I pay for my mix that I ordered.

 

[Tren Warrior]

I ordered from basicstero. 1 day after payment they uploade a picture of my package + my complete order.

But again i got no email about the statis change. Thsts something you should work on @Pharmacom Labs


Im looking forward