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[PHL Official]

Do you know your Tren is some of the weakest I have ever run.

Do you now know a have a heap of positive reviews about it and everyone is satisfied. When having 100 positive feedbacks and one-two from people who allegedly does not feel it... maybe are you one of those who has test, halo, dbol, provi, adrol and tren in stack almost simultaniously and complains he weakly feels tren...look for problem in yourself.

 

[Tren Warrior]

Hes not the only one. I dont rate your tren too. Its atleast underdosed.

Your dbol is still completely bunk.

 

[naturalkon]

Do you now know a have a heap of positive reviews about it and everyone is satisfied. When having 100 positive feedbacks and one-two from people who allegedly does not feel it... maybe are you one of those who has test, halo, dbol, provi, adrol and tren in stack almost simultaniously and complains he weakly feels tren...look for problem in yourself.

I did not say I didn't feel it. I said it was weak. Listen man I have gave you the benefit of the doubt but I have ran many different brands of Tren. One of the reasons I like Tren is because it's the easiest compounds to tell if it is legit. Yours is weak at best. I have even taken 200mgs one day. If this is how you treat your customers I would highly recommend people to avoid. I have even suggested people use you over Darius if they are interested in pharmacom just based on the price difference. You want to try to attack me and my ability to tell if my dhit is legit. I'll make it a point to steer people away from you.

 

[Wunderpus]

I did not say I didn't feel it. I said it was weak. Listen man I have gave you the benefit of the doubt but I have ran many different brands of Tren. One of the reasons I like Tren is because it's the easiest compounds to tell if it is legit. Yours is weak at best. I have even taken 200mgs one day. If this is how you treat your customers I would highly recommend people to avoid. I have even suggested people use you over Darius if they are interested in pharmacom just based on the price difference. You want to try to attack me and my ability to tell if my dhit is legit. I'll make it a point to steer people away from you.

Tren A, I assume? I haven't seen ANYTHING on their tren hex, but I have run tren hex once and enjoyed it.

Based on the reviews of their tren A, I'm unlikely to try their hex....

 

[naturalkon]

Do you now know a have a heap of positive reviews about it and everyone is satisfied. When having 100 positive feedbacks and one-two from people who allegedly does not feel it... maybe are you one of those who has test, halo, dbol, provi, adrol and tren in stack almost simultaniously and complains he weakly feels tren...look for problem in yourself.

Ok now it's time for then to speak up. Everyone that thinks you Tren a is the shit. Post it up.

 

[Johnb49e]

Anyone care to share how long it usually says on the website "payment is being checked" for the status before everything goes through? It's been roughly 4 days for me.

 

[Mr.B66]

Anyone care to share how long it usually says on the website "payment is being checked" for the status before everything goes through? It's been roughly 4 days for me.

Pm Frank!!

 

[turcao]

Anyone care to share how long it usually says on the website "payment is being checked" for the status before everything goes through? It's been roughly 4 days for me.

only took 2 days for me but PM frank and he should give you and update

 

[PHL Official]

I did not say I didn't feel it. I said it was weak. Listen man I have gave you the benefit of the doubt but I have ran many different brands of Tren. One of the reasons I like Tren is because it's the easiest compounds to tell if it is legit. Yours is weak at best. I have even taken 200mgs one day. If this is how you treat your customers I would highly recommend people to avoid. I have even suggested people use you over Darius if they are interested in pharmacom just based on the price difference. You want to try to attack me and my ability to tell if my dhit is legit. I'll make it a point to steer people away from you.

Man I am not attacking you, this is your opinion, you can have it. But this is only your subjective feeling and nothing more. You can`t argue with this.
Ir reply to your subjective feeling I can post here just as example another subjective feeling of our another customers, who tried our tren:
1. Not a lot to post about except this tren hex is pretty dam good. Body temp seems to be up , cant sleep very well and am getting stronger by the day in the gym .

Or another one:
2. It was definitely time to phase out the low rep stuff. My workouts seem so much more rewarding when I'm getting a killer pump and knocking out higher reps. It's awesome to see my weight limits at higher reps be so much heavier than it was prior to starting. It is also nice to be sore again, that's probably my favorite part of switching up routines.
Tomorrow will be day 1 of week 4 on Tren.. Still zero sides. I will be going full tren-wreck after tomorrow though. I am dropping test down to 250mg/week, raising Tren to 600mg/week (still pinning ED), and adding in Anavar at 80mg for the remaining 9 weeks of my cycle. It's time to go bat shit crazy, and I'm stoked.
I'll have some progress pictures up tomorrow to signify the end of week 3, and the beginning of the end. Stay tuned.

So what you write here means in fact nothing. Not because of do I like you or not, has nothing with it at all. You just say something, which is very abstract and there is no evidence to it at all. As well as nobody knows what have you used in stack, what was your nutrition, finally based on what you think tren is weak. If you expact side affects as sweating or rage, you can not to have them. I am personally very calm on any steroid. I used our tren and other иккфтвы and feel similar at all of them. I don`t sweat, i am not raged, i only sleep less at night, but want to sleep more at afternoons.
No side affects at all, but best bulking i ever had. Of course i had over 3 grams protein / 1 kg body weight, over 5 grams carbs. I don`t calculate fats.

So what I wanted to say is that your opinion is only your opinion and I do not see any real hook to believe based on your subjective opinion that our tren is weak. Tren is tren, it has one formula. This is either tren or not. Lab tests showed our tren is good, lot of people say our tren is cool. There will be other test results in a while and I know what they show, I am just sure. Based on these objective arguments while knowing nothing at all about you I am inclined to think that in your case problem is in you and not in our tren. Maybe your nerve system is overloaded, maybe you have to clean your liver, maybe you use too many other things simultaneously,maybe you expect too much from it... I do not know. I can only remember another situation, which is a common example. One guy from this board addresed me in pm and said that our adex is underdosed or bunk, it is not working at all... He said he was on test p and got itchy nipples, limps, etc. Of course I did not believe and asked him to perform a bloodwork. He did it... His estradiol was even a bit lower as the lowest reference limit. He published this bloodwork here a while ago... This is how our adex does not work...
I have no idea from where was this itching. Maybe he has some body peculiarities and his prolactine was high. I do not know...
This is just an example of subjective feelings. If you feel something is not like you want it to be it does not mean it is fake.
Or i had in Russia another example - a guy said our dbol is bunk, no gains at all, he has used dbol before, within the same cycle and had much more gains, switched to our dbol and no gains as before... You know, we took this dbol, he has one blister left and tested it, it was methyltestosterone, not dbol. And gains which he had were just water...
I have lot of such examples. That is why feelings are not reliable. Lot of people expact too much or just don`t know what to expect or just have individual peculiarities. There are people which are not drived by steroids at all. I know such people. This is possible, there are persons, which don`t have or almost don`t have any effects of steroids at all.
Too many words. To put it shortly, your feelings are only your feelings, sorry. This is not attack, i just don`t see any objective data in your review. That all.

 

[PHL Official]

Anyone care to share how long it usually says on the website "payment is being checked" for the status before everything goes through? It's been roughly 4 days for me.

I am very sorry for this. Sometimes our asian colleagues are too slowly. We push them all the time. I provide you a bonus for delay. Sorry.

 

[naturalkon]

Man I am not attacking you, this is your opinion, you can have it. But this is only your subjective feeling and nothing more. You can`t argue with this.
Ir reply to your subjective feeling I can post here just as example another subjective feeling of our another customers, who tried our tren:
1. Not a lot to post about except this tren hex is pretty dam good. Body temp seems to be up , cant sleep very well and am getting stronger by the day in the gym .

Or another one:
2. It was definitely time to phase out the low rep stuff. My workouts seem so much more rewarding when I'm getting a killer pump and knocking out higher reps. It's awesome to see my weight limits at higher reps be so much heavier than it was prior to starting. It is also nice to be sore again, that's probably my favorite part of switching up routines.
Tomorrow will be day 1 of week 4 on Tren.. Still zero sides. I will be going full tren-wreck after tomorrow though. I am dropping test down to 250mg/week, raising Tren to 600mg/week (still pinning ED), and adding in Anavar at 80mg for the remaining 9 weeks of my cycle. It's time to go bat shit crazy, and I'm stoked.
I'll have some progress pictures up tomorrow to signify the end of week 3, and the beginning of the end. Stay tuned.

So what you write here means in fact nothing. Not because of do I like you or not, has nothing with it at all. You just say something, which is very abstract and there is no evidence to it at all. As well as nobody knows what have you used in stack, what was your nutrition, finally based on what you think tren is weak. If you expact side affects as sweating or rage, you can not to have them. I am personally very calm on any steroid. I used our tren and other иккфтвы and feel similar at all of them. I don`t sweat, i am not raged, i only sleep less at night, but want to sleep more at afternoons.
No side affects at all, but best bulking i ever had. Of course i had over 3 grams protein / 1 kg body weight, over 5 grams carbs. I don`t calculate fats.

So what I wanted to say is that your opinion is only your opinion and I do not see any real hook to believe based on your subjective opinion that our tren is weak. Tren is tren, it has one formula. This is either tren or not. Lab tests showed our tren is good, lot of people say our tren is cool. There will be other test results in a while and I know what they show, I am just sure. Based on these objective arguments while knowing nothing at all about you I am inclined to think that in your case problem is in you and not in our tren. Maybe your nerve system is overloaded, maybe you have to clean your liver, maybe you use too many other things simultaneously,maybe you expect too much from it... I do not know. I can only remember another situation, which is a common example. One guy from this board addresed me in pm and said that our adex is underdosed or bunk, it is not working at all... He said he was on test p and got itchy nipples, limps, etc. Of course I did not believe and asked him to perform a bloodwork. He did it... His estradiol was even a bit lower as the lowest reference limit. He published this bloodwork here a while ago... This is how our adex does not work...
I have no idea from where was this itching. Maybe he has some body peculiarities and his prolactine was high. I do not know...
This is just an example of subjective feelings. If you feel something is not like you want it to be it does not mean it is fake.
Or i had in Russia another example - a guy said our dbol is bunk, no gains at all, he has used dbol before, within the same cycle and had much more gains, switched to our dbol and no gains as before... You know, we took this dbol, he has one blister left and tested it, it was methyltestosterone, not dbol. And gains which he had were just water...
I have lot of such examples. That is why feelings are not reliable. Lot of people expact too much or just don`t know what to expect or just have individual peculiarities. There are people which are not drived by steroids at all. I know such people. This is possible, there are persons, which don`t have or almost don`t have any effects of steroids at all.
Too many words. To put it shortly, your feelings are only your feelings, sorry. This is not attack, i just don`t see any objective data in your review. That all.

Listen that little song and dance may work on someone who has never run shot before but I knoey body and I know how it reacts on Tren. I Have posted my stack in this thread. You can check it out. I know what to expect when running good Tren. You have been dealing with too many kids that don't know what to expect. That i am not. Like I said I would not waste your money on pharmacom. This is my opinion and I hope it carried some weight around here. So before giving a bunch of bullshit excuses. Go back and doc your QA.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Hey all! Finally I received our next video. It has been showed not all I hoped you to see, however better as nothing.
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On this video you can see washing of our vials before manufacturing and preliminary sterilization as well as a part of amps production video.

This video has been done just by a regular employee with a regular camera, not professional filming. So he didn`t showed the entire process, it takes hours. I just wanted to add, you have seen preliminary sterilization of vials. After we put oil into vials they undergo the second and the main sterilization with oil inside.

By the way, I have read lot of times here Pharmacom is just a regular UGL… Probably lot of you think, this is an easy thing, just buy raws, put them into oil, heat up to melt them and done… biiig mistake… I just write here several items and it would be very interesting how brewers you`ve seen here before solve these problems… or don`t solve at all and put all they have as is… Please show me an UGL, which can provide the respective quality. I speak now even not about raws…

I tell you honest, I even did not know about all of these items myself, just had a chance to speak with our main specialist directly a long time and here is in simple words, what I could understand.

1. Does somebody of you know, that any oil on the market has tiny water particles (drops)? If you use oil to cook fried eggs, you don`t care about it. But it matters a lot, if this oil shall be injected into your muscles! I think you all know what can happen if you mix say 1ml of oil and 1 ml of water in one syringe and pin it… Moreover, I am sure no one of cheap brewers know this: oil is not a very good medium for bacteria to reproduce. In other words bacteria don`t reproduce in oil! However they do it very well in water… And now let`s get back to my first sentence in this item: How brewers produce oil dehydration? Only equipment for oil dehydration we use costs $45000. I am sure no one brewer has it! When buying cheap gear in 99,9% cases you get not dehydrated potentially dangerous to health oil!


2. Do you know how and under which circumstance occurs filtration of the final product?!!Syringe filters which lot of brewers use is… shit to put it mildly. Real filter shall be 22 micrometer at least. If you imagine how this works, to sieve oil through such a filter of an average size (to ensure high oil amounts) you would need at least 6 bar pressure. It is just impossible without a special expensive vacuum pump or compressor for pharmaceutical industry + pressure air dryer + a heap of filters, incl. cyclons, etc. Equipment price – 150000$.


3. How other brewers avoid sequences of the double bond (olefinic bond) in ethyl oleate? How they avoid fast oxidation?


Lot of brewers are often proud to manifest they use ethyl oleate in their products. Lot of people think yes, this is cool, oil is not so thick, etc… There is a catch. More EO does not mean better.

This olefinic bond is the treason of so called unsaturated condition of EO. All unsaturated acids are highly inclined to all olefin-typed combination reactions. Most of UGL brewers use vials and regular rubber caps found bought somewhere at Alibaba. Ethyl oleate being a solvent can react with rubber causing its oxidation. What happen with rubber with the time? Try to guess…

How many manufacturers use thermoplastic rubber, which does not have this shortcoming, which is not toxic, hypoallergenic and safe for health? Do they now about it at all? I highly doubt…


4. Lot of brewers can tell you they use benzyl alcohol as antiseptic agent… But do they know, that it is really effective only under observing some important conditions, one of which is STRONGEST control of the total oil PH level? Benzyl alcohol loses its antiseptic efficiency at PH <5 or >7. How home brewers can control it? No way. Yes, it can be you order a cheap vial, which has the manifested dosage of an active agent. Your blood work can show high results, if this is testosterone. But what could happen at long-term storage of such vials? Believe me, you won`t know this. PH Testing + control equipment + 40000$.


5. What preserving agents are other manufacturers using against gram-negative bacteria? Whether they are using them at all?!!!

Benzyl alcohol is very effective against gram-positive bacteria, which cannot be said about gram-negative bacteria, which have a thicker cell membrane and are resistant against lot of preserving agents. I am not allowed to reveal info regarding technologies and compounds we use in our oils, this is one of our production secrets, but we use them, which is already a big advantage against 99% of UGL labs. And our costs here are higher as in any other item of this text.

Non-use in products of parabens, chlorobutanol and some other agents implies only clandestine production and deliberate purpose to sell as many products as possible at as low as possible expenses. Most of the brewers don` even think, that a vial can be used by a person only in 2 or 3 years… I would be afraid to inject such oils.

Observance of all these safety measures (I mentioned by far not all, manufacturing process is more complicated and I am just not allowed to disclose it) results at least +30% in price to each vial.

You can say Pharmacom is pricey… I don`t think so. Finally everyone has a choice and can decide what to use, cheaper gear with health risks or products of a manufacturer proved by 10 years on the market and no one abscess or any other similar problem at all. A vial with 3 grams of high quality sustanon in no way can cost less than 30$ for 1 piece…

I just mentioned some items… In a while most of you will lose your negative prejudice (based on previous brands) against our brand as just a regular UGL… we are not. It will take time, but in a while I will see it…

Man I am not attacking you, this is your opinion, you can have it. But this is only your subjective feeling and nothing more. You can`t argue with this.
Ir reply to your subjective feeling I can post here just as example another subjective feeling of our another customers, who tried our tren:
1. Not a lot to post about except this tren hex is pretty dam good. Body temp seems to be up , cant sleep very well and am getting stronger by the day in the gym .

Or another one:
2. It was definitely time to phase out the low rep stuff. My workouts seem so much more rewarding when I'm getting a killer pump and knocking out higher reps. It's awesome to see my weight limits at higher reps be so much heavier than it was prior to starting. It is also nice to be sore again, that's probably my favorite part of switching up routines.
Tomorrow will be day 1 of week 4 on Tren.. Still zero sides. I will be going full tren-wreck after tomorrow though. I am dropping test down to 250mg/week, raising Tren to 600mg/week (still pinning ED), and adding in Anavar at 80mg for the remaining 9 weeks of my cycle. It's time to go bat shit crazy, and I'm stoked.
I'll have some progress pictures up tomorrow to signify the end of week 3, and the beginning of the end. Stay tuned.

So what you write here means in fact nothing. Not because of do I like you or not, has nothing with it at all. You just say something, which is very abstract and there is no evidence to it at all. As well as nobody knows what have you used in stack, what was your nutrition, finally based on what you think tren is weak. If you expact side affects as sweating or rage, you can not to have them. I am personally very calm on any steroid. I used our tren and other иккфтвы and feel similar at all of them. I don`t sweat, i am not raged, i only sleep less at night, but want to sleep more at afternoons.
No side affects at all, but best bulking i ever had. Of course i had over 3 grams protein / 1 kg body weight, over 5 grams carbs. I don`t calculate fats.

So what I wanted to say is that your opinion is only your opinion and I do not see any real hook to believe based on your subjective opinion that our tren is weak. Tren is tren, it has one formula. This is either tren or not. Lab tests showed our tren is good, lot of people say our tren is cool. There will be other test results in a while and I know what they show, I am just sure. Based on these objective arguments while knowing nothing at all about you I am inclined to think that in your case problem is in you and not in our tren. Maybe your nerve system is overloaded, maybe you have to clean your liver, maybe you use too many other things simultaneously,maybe you expect too much from it... I do not know. I can only remember another situation, which is a common example. One guy from this board addresed me in pm and said that our adex is underdosed or bunk, it is not working at all... He said he was on test p and got itchy nipples, limps, etc. Of course I did not believe and asked him to perform a bloodwork. He did it... His estradiol was even a bit lower as the lowest reference limit. He published this bloodwork here a while ago... This is how our adex does not work...
I have no idea from where was this itching. Maybe he has some body peculiarities and his prolactine was high. I do not know...
This is just an example of subjective feelings. If you feel something is not like you want it to be it does not mean it is fake.
Or i had in Russia another example - a guy said our dbol is bunk, no gains at all, he has used dbol before, within the same cycle and had much more gains, switched to our dbol and no gains as before... You know, we took this dbol, he has one blister left and tested it, it was methyltestosterone, not dbol. And gains which he had were just water...
I have lot of such examples. That is why feelings are not reliable. Lot of people expact too much or just don`t know what to expect or just have individual peculiarities. There are people which are not drived by steroids at all. I know such people. This is possible, there are persons, which don`t have or almost don`t have any effects of steroids at all.
Too many words. To put it shortly, your feelings are only your feelings, sorry. This is not attack, i just don`t see any objective data in your review. That all.

Hey Frank, do you purposely make your posts ridiculously long so know one will read them?

 

[Whoremoans]

Hey Frank, do you purposely make your posts ridiculously long so know one will read them?

I read about half of it and then was like "Jesus Christ there's more?"

 

[DeM0NiCs]

I have never run legit tren before so I have no gauge to run by however I quite strongly feel the effects at 100mg a day and had to drop down to 50mg a day. I ran dbol from pharmacom recently ordered off us.basicstero and never felt a damn thing at doses up to 100mg a day so imo not dbol.

 

[DeM0NiCs]

I am curious about mix 2 has anyone been running it recently? I usally stay away from mixs however this and a shot of prop @ 100mg a day would be a good lead into a post cycle while my longer esters wear off.

 

[NFRCR]

Some people had problems with DBol as I've read. What about TBol?

 

[PHL Official]

Listen that little song and dance may work on someone who has never run shot before but I knoey body and I know how it reacts on Tren. I Have posted my stack in this thread. You can check it out. I know what to expect when running good Tren. You have been dealing with too many kids that don't know what to expect. That i am not. Like I said I would not waste your money on pharmacom. This is my opinion and I hope it carried some weight around here. So before giving a bunch of bullshit excuses. Go back and doc your QA.

Man, nobody forces you to spend your money on Pharmacom. Buy something else, I have, nobody has anything against. But this is again your personal subjective opinion proves with nothing, this is fact, sorry, and your feeling is your feeling.
I have just read another review about our tren on another board, where we don`t pay anything to anyone:
Hey we just fill out the 4 fields of info and that's it right, there's no waiving ID or secret question bullshit right? I got my bro to put in an HGH order. I'm loving the mix 2, pharmacom tren is some amazing stuff!
This comment is not worse as yours. Also unproven, still we have almost all of them like this. It means something, as well as our tren a sales statistic, one of the top sold products. However, use another company, which you feel, this is your choice.

Hey Frank, do you purposely make your posts ridiculously long so know one will read them?

Have you read it? I agree lot of my posts were too long and not always clear, but this one has really important info, which everyone shall know, just for common education. I did not know some things myself. Info there is just important, what you shall pay attention to when choosing gear. I am sure most users are not familiar with that info.

 

[naturalkon]

Man, nobody forces you to spend your money on Pharmacom. Buy something else, I have, nobody has anything against. But this is again your personal subjective opinion proves with nothing, this is fact, sorry, and your feeling is your feeling.
I have just read another review about our tren on another board, where we don`t pay anything to anyone:
Hey we just fill out the 4 fields of info and that's it right, there's no waiving ID or secret question bullshit right? I got my bro to put in an HGH order. I'm loving the mix 2, pharmacom tren is some amazing stuff!
This comment is not worse as yours. Also unproven, still we have almost all of them like this. It means something, as well as our tren a sales statistic, one of the top sold products. However, use another company, which you feel, this is your choice.

Have you read it? I agree lot of my posts were too long and not always clear, but this one has really important info, which everyone shall know, just for common education. I did not know some things myself. Info there is just important, what you shall pay attention to when choosing gear. I am sure most users are not familiar with that info.

Honestly frank I know that this is an opinion. And this is a source review forum. Not a source forum. Do t like it get the fuck out of here. There are people who will listen to my opinion here. I have nothing to gain by making shut up and attacking you. However you have everything to gain. The burden of proof us on you my friend. I'm just letting people know that your product isn't up to par. So be it.

 

[Johnb49e]

A lot of you already know this but just wanted to throw in my two cents. There was a little delay in my order and stuff and I talked to frank and he quickly answered me and solved the problem. Just letting you guys know that communication and fixing of order problems is something he seems to be top notch at. As far as the gear, we'll find that out later on.

 

[Mofotyler]

Ha can't wait till pack lands. This way I can run it. Then Get some blood work done. Maybe it will help with all the back and forth. I'm not even going to lie. Only order cause the free 200$ and cause I'm curious if it's bunk or not. I can live with 300$ lost if it's all bunk. Hell I have lost 3x that and got nothing at all.