Basicstero is looking for 3 volunteers to get analytic testing performed on the specific TEST-E300 and MIX-M batches listed below.
The MESO community and Basicstero want to see additional analytic results for the exact same batch that is in question so we can get more data and Pharmacom Labs may make improvements, if an issue that can be improved upon is identified.
If you have any brand-new unopened samples of the following products, please consider volunteering for this project. Volunteers may be selected or declined at Basicstero’s discretion.
PHARMA TEST-E300: batch #PHT300014EV
PHARMA MIX-M: batch #PHDR00007MV
Please reply here in the Basicstero thread if you meet the requirements and are interested in volunteering.
Basicstero is primarily interested in the TEST-E300 result because this is one of the most popular and common products and there are still some other moderate to long ester replacements available to customers at this time.
The MIX-M result is also of some interest but it is understood that this is a much less common product and there are no analogous replacements available to customers because of the raws shortage – there are no new batches currently planned as a result of the raw material shortage.
The NPP result is not of interest because the result in question is already extremely close to being a pass in the +/- 10% acceptable tolerance range and these is some variance in testing results.
Requirements: each volunteer must have a brand-new unopened sample from the exact same batch (listed above) that BigJP had tested and be able to provide the valid Basicstero order number for the purchase of each sample.
Please provide photographs of the sample to clearly show the batch number.
The sample must be sent to, and received by, the analytic service in brand-new and unopened condition (the top cap must still be sealed on the vial as it comes from the store), to help eliminate as many variables as possible.
The volunteers must each agree to send the sample of the specific batch in question to Jano* and pay for their own testing expenses.
The volunteers must also agree to provide Basicstero and Pharmacom Labs access to the results and grant Basicstero and Pharmacom Labs the permission to share the results anywhere at any time (the client’s name and any other personal identifying information will be redacted on the analytic report before it is shared).
Compensation: Basicstero agrees to the following compensation package for each volunteer; the value of the compensation will be issued as Basicstero store credit, added to the volunteer’s Basicstero account balance (which may be used in the Basicstero store at any time), after the analytic results are completed and the final reports are made available to Basicstero.
1) $120 USD credit for “Common AAS Screening Quantitative” (Janoshik Analytical).
2) $100 USD credit for the donated TEST-E300 sample (this is more than anyone paid for a single TEST-E300 product from Basicstero, so it clearly covers the cost of an analogous replacement from any warehouse).
Or, If the donated sample cost the customer more than $100 USD, then the exact cost of the sample will be credited instead (so the customer will get the greater amount), which can be verified by the order number (to show from which warehouse the sample was purchased and the cost can be verified).
In the rare event an individual volunteer has samples of both products in question (TEST-E300 and MIX-M), then the sum of the exact costs of the samples will be credited, because the cost of both products combined may be greater than the $100 reward.
3) $100 USD credit additional bonus to thank the volunteer for his or her time and effort in helping us all with this project, and to offset shipping expenses.
Therefore, the compensation credited to each volunteer’s account will be no less than $320 USD total.
*NOTE: Jano appears to be the most popular analytic service available at this time; nonetheless, if a volunteer strongly prefers to use a different analytic service, we can discuss it and present the idea to Basicstero for consideration; approval for a different analytic service must be obtained from Basicstero before moving forward with the project. However, the analytic service used must be well-known and reputable and the cost must be very similar to Jano’s service (not something such as double the cost).
IMPORTANT: please do not take it upon yourself to send a sample and expect Basicstero to compensate you; Basicstero is not required to compensate you unless it has been agreed upon and it is publicly stated here in the thread that you have been selected.
You must volunteer, have a sample that meets the requirements (you may be asked to provide the product photo to show you do have a brand-new unopened sample from the correct batch to ensure no one’s time or resources are wasted), and get approval to consider it an agreement.
Thank you all for your consideration.
Thanks again for the good suggestion.
The MESO community and Basicstero want to see additional analytic results for the exact same batch that is in question so we can get more data and Pharmacom Labs may make improvements, if an issue that can be improved upon is identified.
If you have any brand-new unopened samples of the following products, please consider volunteering for this project. Volunteers may be selected or declined at Basicstero’s discretion.
PHARMA TEST-E300: batch #PHT300014EV
PHARMA MIX-M: batch #PHDR00007MV
Please reply here in the Basicstero thread if you meet the requirements and are interested in volunteering.
Basicstero is primarily interested in the TEST-E300 result because this is one of the most popular and common products and there are still some other moderate to long ester replacements available to customers at this time.
The MIX-M result is also of some interest but it is understood that this is a much less common product and there are no analogous replacements available to customers because of the raws shortage – there are no new batches currently planned as a result of the raw material shortage.
The NPP result is not of interest because the result in question is already extremely close to being a pass in the +/- 10% acceptable tolerance range and these is some variance in testing results.
Requirements: each volunteer must have a brand-new unopened sample from the exact same batch (listed above) that BigJP had tested and be able to provide the valid Basicstero order number for the purchase of each sample.
Please provide photographs of the sample to clearly show the batch number.
The sample must be sent to, and received by, the analytic service in brand-new and unopened condition (the top cap must still be sealed on the vial as it comes from the store), to help eliminate as many variables as possible.
The volunteers must each agree to send the sample of the specific batch in question to Jano* and pay for their own testing expenses.
The volunteers must also agree to provide Basicstero and Pharmacom Labs access to the results and grant Basicstero and Pharmacom Labs the permission to share the results anywhere at any time (the client’s name and any other personal identifying information will be redacted on the analytic report before it is shared).
Compensation: Basicstero agrees to the following compensation package for each volunteer; the value of the compensation will be issued as Basicstero store credit, added to the volunteer’s Basicstero account balance (which may be used in the Basicstero store at any time), after the analytic results are completed and the final reports are made available to Basicstero.
1) $120 USD credit for “Common AAS Screening Quantitative” (Janoshik Analytical).
2) $100 USD credit for the donated TEST-E300 sample (this is more than anyone paid for a single TEST-E300 product from Basicstero, so it clearly covers the cost of an analogous replacement from any warehouse).
Or, If the donated sample cost the customer more than $100 USD, then the exact cost of the sample will be credited instead (so the customer will get the greater amount), which can be verified by the order number (to show from which warehouse the sample was purchased and the cost can be verified).
In the rare event an individual volunteer has samples of both products in question (TEST-E300 and MIX-M), then the sum of the exact costs of the samples will be credited, because the cost of both products combined may be greater than the $100 reward.
3) $100 USD credit additional bonus to thank the volunteer for his or her time and effort in helping us all with this project, and to offset shipping expenses.
Therefore, the compensation credited to each volunteer’s account will be no less than $320 USD total.
*NOTE: Jano appears to be the most popular analytic service available at this time; nonetheless, if a volunteer strongly prefers to use a different analytic service, we can discuss it and present the idea to Basicstero for consideration; approval for a different analytic service must be obtained from Basicstero before moving forward with the project. However, the analytic service used must be well-known and reputable and the cost must be very similar to Jano’s service (not something such as double the cost).
IMPORTANT: please do not take it upon yourself to send a sample and expect Basicstero to compensate you; Basicstero is not required to compensate you unless it has been agreed upon and it is publicly stated here in the thread that you have been selected.
You must volunteer, have a sample that meets the requirements (you may be asked to provide the product photo to show you do have a brand-new unopened sample from the correct batch to ensure no one’s time or resources are wasted), and get approval to consider it an agreement.
Thank you all for your consideration.
The most reasonable path forward would be to identify other customers in this same thread who purchased the same batch, same compound, same timeframe, through the same vendor, and submit those for independent testing. That removes speculation entirely. Reframing the issue around motives, competitors, or reputation does not move us closer to the truth. Batch matched replication does.
... open calls for any other customers who may have some of your product from the same batch's to do the same on your dime. Openly arrange for the results to be published - this clears your name and makes you look like you genuinely believe there may have been a mistake in BigJp's testing somewhere and that you have full confidence in your product.
@BALLISTIC and @RawwThe cleanest, least debatable resolution is multiple tests from customers who bought the same batch, same compound, same distributor, and same timeframe as BigJP.
Thanks again for the good suggestion.
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