Pharmacom Test Cyp, Tbol Bloodwork

[penche]

@rutman what kind of orals & dosage were you using if you don't mind me asking bro? And how long should op wait before checking values to see a decrease?

1 month? I'm interested as I'm on the same ordeal. I'll make sure to post my values so others may see results. Not trying to hijack @tattedlegend

Again thanks for sharing brother it helps the community stay informed.

 

[ronin17]

Would you guys consider a reading of 70 for alt and 48 for ast bad?

 

[rutman]

@rutman what kind of orals & dosage were you using if you don't mind me asking bro? And how long should op wait before checking values to see a decrease?

1 month? I'm interested as I'm on the same ordeal. I'll make sure to post my values so others may see results. Not trying to hijack @tattedlegend

Again thanks for sharing brother it helps the community stay informed.

Dude I wasn't on any orals. Just on 700mg of tren and 600mg of test. I'm convinced that it was the tren that was causing the high levels. I dropped the tren 4 weeks ago and am having bloods ran again next week.

I think it's all depends on the individual. I say a month is a minimum time for things to start to return to "normal" levels. Probably closer to 2 months. Gotta let the liver recover. We only have one...

 

[tattedlegend]

Dude I wasn't on any orals. Just on 700mg of tren and 600mg of test. I'm convinced that it was the tren that was causing the high levels. I dropped the tren 4 weeks ago and am having bloods ran again next week.

I think it's all depends on the individual. I say a month is a minimum time for things to start to return to "normal" levels. Probably closer to 2 months. Gotta let the liver recover. We only have one...

I agree with the time frame for recovery. Last time my levels were elevated, I redid bw 2 weeks later and they had significantly dropped, but still had slight elevation, and were back in range within 4 weeks.

Edit: on another note, everyone should check out my cycle log as well if you get the chance. Thanks In advance. Hope this BW helps the community

 

[penche]

Appreciate the response gentlemen @rutman & @tattedlegend , I scheduled the hepatic panel for tom morning as well. Never hurts to check the bloods out esp now that I'm gettin old. I'll update with a new thread for those interested how orals affect differ individuals.

12 yrs ago I'd swallow British dragons and win tabs like skittles and never do bloods or even think of my liver. Was young and stupid back then. I don't think they had these online private labs back in the day either, not sure but taking advantage of it now.

 

[Mechanics]

Not sure on the BP. This was the first time I checked it, and first cycle so don't have comparison but I'm going to check it again in about a week, if it's coming back down I know the BP will come from tbol and not the test

Hey my wife is a RN and she always checks BP 8 hrs apart 3 times (if I feel like BP is a problem) and if BP is high all 3 times makes me take BP meds until under control. Not sure if this is what most do
But is the criteria/process in Medical field. And your liver definitely needs to be addressed . Your health is more important than making gainz. Them gainz will always be there brother . But if you have failed organs the gainz will not be there for you because you will be a statistic.

 

[Mechanics]

I hope you are taking milk thistle and nac . To help liver and immune system function.
That may not fix ur problems right away but it helps. Cause ur liver is one of the only organ that will repair it's self (if not damaged beyond repair) and the milk thistle will definitely help support that process.
And we all help each other so we can all enjoy the benefits of gear. But u really have to care about ur self first.


TAKE CARE OF YOUR LIVER !!!

 

[Caizier]

Agreed with the above. I had elevated enzymes, both liver values. Only thing I took was milk thistle @600mg daily for two weeks and everything came back in.

 

[Caizier]

These were my values.

 

[Mechanics]

Agreed with the above. I had elevated enzymes, both liver values. Only thing I took was milk thistle @600mg daily for two weeks and everything came back in.

Yeah continue to take 600mg of milk Thistle and I take 1200mg of NAC .
I am actually going to take 300mg of milk thistle and 600mg of NAC Off CYCLE.
You gotta take care of them organs brother . There's no steroid or gainz worth ruining your life . I don't know how old you are . But I personally am 34 and have a beautiful wife and 4 kids who need there daddy .

 

[Caizier]

Be a little careful with the milk thistle though. It's known to lower blood sugar levels. Im my case I was never above 85 even after large carb meals and it went as low as 62. Started going hypo and that sucked...

 

[Mechanics]

Yeah I am no doctor . I am thankful that my wife has been a RN and she looks at mine and tells me what is abnormal. But it looks like ur e2 is really high. And a vet can correct my error if I am wrong . But u might need to get that in check as well. Are you taking any AI

 

[Caizier]

@tattedlegend . I'm a little concerned also for your BP. You have nearly 100pt range between systolic and diastolic and your very low IMO on your diastolic considering the compounds your running. I hope you are getting accurate readings. Please tell me how your pressure is being checked?

 

[Mechanics]

Be a little careful with the milk thistle though. It's known to lower blood sugar levels. Im my case I was never above 85 even after large carb meals and it went as low as 62. Started going hypo and that sucked...

Yeah I must agree . I was advised to take 1200 mg of milk thistle . But after consulting with my MD and he keeps very good records ( I have a cool doc and I finally told him after he kept hinting around and asking questions for the last 2-3) and he told me to go no higher than 600mg a day of milk thistle. I think the bottle said recommend daily dose is 300mg a day.

 

[Caizier]

Yeah I am no doctor . I am thankful that my wife has been a RN and she looks at mine and tells me what is abnormal. But it looks like ur e2 is really high. And a vet can correct my error if I am wrong . But u might need to get that in check as well. Are you taking any AI

Who are you referring to?

 

[Mechanics]

@tattedlegend . I'm a little concerned also for your BP. You have nearly 100pt range between systolic and diastolic and your very low IMO on your diastolic considering the compounds your running. I hope you are getting accurate readings. Please tell me how your pressure is being checked?

Great question.

 

[Mechanics]

Who are you referring to?

Ur e2

 

[Mechanics]

And that might be normal with high counts of TT's.
I am no doctor by no means. I seen it said 95% estrodrol

 

[Mechanics]

That just seems really high

 

[Mechanics]

And I just looked at some other bloods and they were high but around the 72% mark