Pharmasource EU pharmaceuticals

[Necessary Evil]

Dayum, thread looks like a fucking warzone.

@pharmasource, since lately, you have been pushing your own line of oils wouldn't be a good idea to post how your lab looks like? I have found some pictures on page 121 and I was wondering if that's it? If yes, then to me it seems pretty lackluster. Would be nice to see if you have made some updates.

Also, what happened to the lab results of some of your oils? IIRC I read that they got lost or something like that, did you resend? Do we have any ETA on when you will get them? Also which lab is doing the testing?

Wouldn't be good to include the lab tests, of your own oils, on your price list post?

Lastly, since you didn't answer me before, every how often are you willing to test your line to ensure quality? Because just once ain't going to cut it for me and I'm sure for most of us here.

PS. I'm in no way saying that your gear is bad. I just outlined some steps that in my opinion would help with quality control and the satisfaction of your customers.

 

[TRT]

Define "a solid review".

Do you really think it's appropriate for members to ignore ridiculous reviews that are based on something as subjective as the feelz?

Do you think it helps the source and/or community for some one post wonder that joined last week to say a source is "g2g" or a source is trash, based on a single subjective experience that they had?

What constitutes a solid review and where is the line drawn on such a review? What do we do when that line is crossed?

i'm all ears.

You asked, "Where do you cross the line?"

Well I wrote a big long post explaining this. Now obviously we are in a time where bro science won't get you anywhere cause we want HPLC/MS testing, which is fine. I'm on that train as well. But, let's not ignore personal experience.
For example if you and I both ran Pharmastar Tren ace, both of us being experienced users and brewers and we say "I have no side effects, feelings of irratation, ect., ect." Then maybe it's time to do testing but wouldn't have had we not got the suspicion based on personal experience.
Also a new member could say the same but wouldn't be worth a shit at that point so where do we draw the line? We don't. We take them all into consideration based on the current circumstances. Why? Because it's a start and we have to start somewhere.
Just my opinion on the matter. Being a little open minded.

 

[jackbladezzz]

You asked, "Where do you cross the line?"

Well I wrote a big long post explaining this. Now obviously we are in a time where bro science won't get you anywhere cause we want HPLC/MS testing, which is fine. I'm on that train as well. But, let's not ignore personal experience.
For example if you and I both ran Pharmastar Tren ace, both of us being experienced users and brewers and we say "I have no side effects, feelings of irratation, ect., ect." Then maybe it's time to do testing but wouldn't have had we not got the suspicion based on personal experience.
Also a new member could say the same but wouldn't be worth a shit at that point so where do we draw the line? We don't. We take them all into consideration based on the current circumstances. Why? Because it's a start and we have to start somewhere.
Just my opinion on the matter. Being a little open minded.

I mentioned this in another post and some people wanting to argue and I think it’s dumb.

Let’s say we both worked out at the same gym, we both experienced users, and there was a local guy selling some stuff I know you bought. I ask your opinion on say some test/tren, you say you’ve run it, gained a solid 12 lbs lean mass, seemed pretty legit.

Could you imagine me using some of this mentality here and respond to you ‘oh stfu you idiot, that counts for absolutely nothing, bloodwork/mass spectrometry or stfu, are you a dumb fucking newb?’. You’d legitimately punch me in the fucking face.

This is even more applicable to other compounds like clen. It’s obvious if it’s working.

Now with that being said, I DO think it’s idiotic to ever claim something is dosed right off of ‘feeling’ or ‘results’. Or even claim wth certainty it’s definitely the compound in question, as of course multiple compounds mimic the same effect.

I just think it’s silly that some are claiming that if a 2-3 year memeber posts anywhere on Steroid Underground that they have some good results, but no bloods, it should be completely dismissed. I think that’s potentially dismissing some feedback from experienced guys.

 

[MisterSuit]

Generally this is a good point but imo this statement is worth only for some “exotic” orals:

Or even claim wth certainty it’s definitely the compound in question, as of course multiple compounds mimic the same effect.

Almost every compound have a certain side effect that distinguish it from the others.

 

[jackbladezzz]

Well, Jack. Here's the thing. i say what i want to say, whenever i feel like saying it.

Look, I kind of get it. I’ve discussed throughouly w multiple members some advice pertaining to compounds, nutrition and regiments. At the suggestion of them, as well as a couple guys in this thread, I’ll minimize posting here and spread out more across the board. I honestly just focused here as I obviously buy a fair amount of stuff from PS and it was easy to just always shoot shit in here w guys. But since nobody knows me from anybody else and it’s an Internet forum, I see how it’s starting to look.

I’m an educated adult, I can get their side and instead of arguing about it, I’ll just try to give a little bit more to the Meso community and simply rectify said issue.

 

[MajinMuscle777]

How much did he pay you to say this? You will make the World an awful place with such comments, shame on you.

lol.

K

 

[jackbladezzz]

Generally this is a good point but imo this statement is worth only for some “exotic” orals:



Almost every compound have a certain side effect that distinguish it from the others.

I’m going to be honest with you. You’re incredibly inexperienced. Stop making statements when the only thing you’re relying on, is said knowledge which you’ve googled. You truly have no idea if a ton of different compounds replicate the effects of one or the other.

I, do have a lot of experience. And you’re flat out wrong. Many compounds sort of seem the same, and there’s A LOT of AAS on the market. This is why 99.99% of veterans would agree with me that it’s flat out stupid to ever claim a compound is definitely without a doubt what it is labeled as, without actual lab testing to verify it.

I say this not to insult you, but to help you. You really need to stop talking with such certainty with no personal knowledge of said effects.

 

[MisterSuit]

I’m going to be honest with you. You’re incredibly inexperienced. Stop making statements when the only thing you’re relying on, is said knowledge which you’ve googled. You truly have no idea if a ton of different compounds replicate the effects of one or the other.

I say this not to insult you, but to help you. You really need to stop talking with such certainty with no personal knowledge of said effects.

While I had few cycles I ran various compounds from different sources to “test” them, just to tell you an example: try 0,5mg of oral M3T and tell if it’s any different from 100mg var. While I can certainly say that Var and Winnie have abyssal difference in term of sides and liver impact. Masteron and tren? Test and deca? Maybe masteron and low doses of primo may have similar effects.

K

You know I was joking, right?

 

[MisterSuit]

Anyway I admitted my ignorance many times as you can see, I’m not trying to argue on this point. Let me just clarify that many times I found easy to say if a compound “feels” like it should feel or not.
And I have to add a thing: I come from years of stims, don’t want to seem an arrogant prick but I think that few members here have my experience with salbutamol for example, and it’s not a thing that I’m proud of, it was doping, so I’ll go straight to the point: I read someone calling shit on his salbutamol, I can bet my right hand that it’s not bunk.

 

[bimbambu]

NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT PHARMASOURCE

Hi guys,

I'm rookie at this forum and not active. I joined this forum only for the reason to buy some Clomiphene preps cheaper. I'm on Clomiphene for 16 months with 1 short break and during this time I have done many blood tests in order to control the administration.

I have ordered 3 x Clomiphene Anpharm Hellas 48x50mg from Pharmasource.

1st batch came with no problem.

2nd batch was sent, but it was seized by customs.

3rd batch came not full in a different package. Moreover, I noticed a different structure of tabs and I contacted pharmasource with a question about legitimacy and I was confirmed that it is pharma grade products.

4th batch came after few extra emails.

My administration on Anpharm from Pharmasource was 50/25mg ED + ADEX 0,25 tab E7D.

So here are the results.

2018 04 06
https://ibb.co/bXiHuo

2018 06 21
https://ibb.co/j34qEo

Few results from BEFORE AND AFTER when I was on Clostilgebyt (from pharmacy store) 50/25mg ED.

2017 01 30
3 weeks after I started to use Clostilgebyt 50mg + 20mg tamoxifen.
https://ibb.co/fEzOZo

2017 03 30
25mg clomiphene
https://ibb.co/nftd0T

2017 07 14
7 weeks after I was off:
https://ibb.co/dFgZ78

2017 08 07
3 weeks on 25mg Clostilgebyt
https://ibb.co/iiNP78

Conclusion:

At first, I thought that it was a fail of the lab, but the second blood tests simply confirmed my guess. Moreover, LH levels are almost identical when I was off, except the TTE is higher now. Even AST and ALT levels are at the same levels when I was off (On mode 'ON' AST and ALT levels were much higher).

No other preps were used, which could affect the liver or administration CLO.

I have more tests, but there is no reason to post. Unfortunately, I did not have a possibility to do a control blood test when I started to use CLO from Pharmasource.

 

[movingiron88]

Look, I kind of get it. I’ve discussed throughouly w multiple members some advice pertaining to compounds, nutrition and regiments. At the suggestion of them, as well as a couple guys in this thread, I’ll minimize posting here and spread out more across the board. I honestly just focused here as I obviously buy a fair amount of stuff from PS and it was easy to just always shoot shit in here w guys. But since nobody knows me from anybody else and it’s an Internet forum, I see how it’s starting to look.

I’m an educated adult, I can get their side and instead of arguing about it, I’ll just try to give a little bit more to the Meso community and simply rectify said issue.

I'm glad you can see how it looks when you only post in here and then defend the source. Hey you might be a wealth of knowledge but if you don't join the community then your words don't have any weight or meaning to me. They are marked with doubt. I look forward to you joining us and being part of the community not just PS.

 

[movingiron88]

Anyway I admitted my ignorance many times as you can see, I’m not trying to argue on this point. Let me just clarify that many times I found easy to say if a compound “feels” like it should feel or not.
And I have to add a thing: I come from years of stims, don’t want to seem an arrogant prick but I think that few members here have my experience with salbutamol for example, and it’s not a thing that I’m proud of, it was doping, so I’ll go straight to the point: I read someone calling shit on his salbutamol, I can bet my right hand that it’s not bunk.

I ran his salbutamol maybe 2 years ago now I think and it was extremely underdosed if salbutamol at all. I have run pharmaceutical and have used several other sources as well. So yea your word means shit to me.

 

[rpbb]

This source has been so inconsistent

 

[MisterSuit]

I ran his salbutamol maybe 2 years ago now I think and it was extremely underdosed if salbutamol at all. I have run pharmaceutical and have used several other sources as well. So yea your word means shit to me.

No way I can tell if the batch of two years ago was bunk, there’s no reason why I shouldn’t trust you. I’m saying that the current batch is good.

 

[Harmswhey]

Says the internet tough guy, way to come in and really help out. Totally contributing in a positive way. Dumb fuck. No one asked you to read anything or held your eyes open and fucking made you, crawl back into whatever hole you were in before that "insightful" comment.

I don't give a fuck about what join date you have. Everyone who interacts with me gets the same exact level of respect given.

I've contributed a hell of a lot more here than you. I've posted over 10 blood tests of different labs. What have you contributed besides 700 messages in the month you've been here? All I'm saying is people like you clog up threads with useless bull shit that nobody wants to read. Have a good day ladies!

 

[picholas]

I've contributed a hell of a lot more here than you. I've posted over 10 blood tests of different labs. What have you contributed besides 700 messages in the month you've been here? All I'm saying is people like you clog up threads with useless bull shit that nobody wants to read. Have a good day ladies!

Your so keen on reading my messages, go through them and figure it out on your own. And then when your done go fuck yourself.

Respect given = respect received

Not a pissing contest, so quit bitching, no one asked for you to come in and play capitan save a ho. Not interested. You come off like a petty little lady.

 

[movingiron88]

I've contributed a hell of a lot more here than you. I've posted over 10 blood tests of different labs. What have you contributed besides 700 messages in the month you've been here? All I'm saying is people like you clog up threads with useless bull shit that nobody wants to read. Have a good day ladies!

Are you going to answer my question?

 

[TRT]

I mentioned this in another post and some people wanting to argue and I think it’s dumb.

Let’s say we both worked out at the same gym, we both experienced users, and there was a local guy selling some stuff I know you bought. I ask your opinion on say some test/tren, you say you’ve run it, gained a solid 12 lbs lean mass, seemed pretty legit.

Could you imagine me using some of this mentality here and respond to you ‘oh stfu you idiot, that counts for absolutely nothing, bloodwork/mass spectrometry or stfu, are you a dumb fucking newb?’. You’d legitimately punch me in the fucking face.

This is even more applicable to other compounds like clen. It’s obvious if it’s working.

Now with that being said, I DO think it’s idiotic to ever claim something is dosed right off of ‘feeling’ or ‘results’. Or even claim wth certainty it’s definitely the compound in question, as of course multiple compounds mimic the same effect.

I just think it’s silly that some are claiming that if a 2-3 year memeber posts anywhere on Steroid Underground that they have some good results, but no bloods, it should be completely dismissed. I think that’s potentially dismissing some feedback from experienced guys.

I think saying something is bad is one thing but to say it's "G2G" is another. You can't tell mg dosage off of feelings but you k ownif that Clenbuterol isnbunk though. Haha

 

[picholas]

I think saying something is bad is one thing but to say it's "G2G" is another. You can't tell mg dosage off of feelings but you k ownif that Clenbuterol isnbunk though. Haha

Overdosed gear is just as bad. That's why "feels" are dangerous. If I'm taking four 25mg of an oral and they're really dosed at 34mg each, 100mg daily becomes 126mg daily. Basically a whole extra pill and more.

With UGL's consistency is what you should strive for. To know the gear is within an acceptable +/- of what it's label says it's dosed at.

 

[Necessary Evil]

This source has been so inconsistent

@rpbb Can you, for the love of God, explain why you think it's inconsistent? I have asked you some pages ago but no answer. I'm really interested in hearing about your experience. Negative comments for a source is what helps us newbies decide where to lean for and why not buying from said source. In previous pages, I mainly saw dick riding for PS, would be nice to see something different.