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[GdaddyGains]

Tren can greatly reduce how GH is converted into IGF-1. Two people can take the same GH and dose and have varying IGF-1 levels. The conversion in the liver has a ton of variables. The GH hormone level in the blood should be the same given same blood volume.....GH serum is more accurate. IGF-1 gives you an idea how effective your liver is converting the GH into IGF-1. Both values are good to know. GH serum is good for determining product quality.

 

[movingiron88]

If you call that attacking a member then you might be a huge pussy. I was simply using his logic against him. Where have I defended this source in my post?

I have commented on this source before both good and bad so there is no dick riding any source from me.

I call that standing by the source and giving our member a hard time after putting in the time and money to get blood testing done. Then providing the community the results. If anything we should thank him. Then look into verifying the results.

 

[Savagesteve]

I call that standing by the source and giving our member a hard time after putting in the time and money to get blood testing done. Then providing the community the results. If anything we should thank him. Then look into verifying the results.

Now if what @RonnyZ said was true about needing to get the serum and igf-1 test were true...wouldn’t @Simobbuilder bloods be the equivalent of getting a capped blood test running a gram a week?

 

[RonnyZ]

Now if what @RonnyZ said was true about needing to get the serum and igf-1 test were true...wouldn’t @Simobbuilder bloods be the equivalent of getting a capped blood test running a gram a week?

I think it's similar, that analogy. I do also get the point that we should appreciate any testing users share, and not shoot the messenger. It's interesting. On the same note, I think it's not ok to smear the source if the testing isn't complete enough to prove anything.

 

[movingiron88]

I think it's similar, that analogy. I do also get the point that we should appreciate any testing users share, and not shoot the messenger. It's interesting. On the same note, I think it's not ok to smear the source if the testing isn't complete enough to prove anything.

Agreed! The only alarming part is how low the number really is. So a little different then capped. I agree this day and age that bloodwork is not the end all be all. But I would take it as a cue to lab test my product if the numbers were that far off.

@Simobbuilder any thought on sending in a vial for random testing?

If you decide to please dont let the source contact the testing company himself. Keep it private and work out reimbursement or something else if you want to trust the results.

 

[Simobbuilder]

Agreed! The only alarming part is how low the number really is. So a little different then capped. I agree this day and age that bloodwork is not the end all be all. But I would take it as a cue to lab test my product if the numbers were that far off.

@Simobbuilder any thought on sending in a vial for random testing?

If you decide to please dont let the source contact the testing company himself. Keep it private and work out reimbursement or something else if you want to trust the results.

I would love to but i am only a student i don't have enough money to test a gh, that's why i didn't do both gh serum and igf1, it costs a lot, i've already spent money for this gh, i won't spend more, especially that i can't no more buy from him.
And who are talking about reduding igf levels, i've did the good protocol that all my friends do and i was off gear no tren, it was done a week after my nandrolone cycle

 

[Sourtes22]

I have looked at hundreds of different blood work on HGH bro. Something you need to realize is GH is converted into IGF-1 by your liver.

How much GH is converted into IGF-1 by your liver can change from person to person, and has a ton of other variables, such as time of day, food you have eaten before taking GH, drugs you are using, etc. many variables.

A more accurate test would be to have gotten your GH blood serum levels tested as well. This would of showed you the true picture. Unfortunately you did not get that test done. You can have high levels of GH, but if you do not convert a lot of it to IGF-1 by your liver, your IGF-1 values will be low.

@Simobbuilder how long have you been taking the GH?

I can say from personal experience i ran lily's humatrope and it takes at least 4-6 weeks for igf1 to increase. At least for me. I did blood work on 4iu a day with a baseline of igf at 180 and every week the number was going up slowly but steadily.

 

[Simobbuilder]

@Simobbuilder how long have you been taking the GH?

I can say from personal experience i ran lily's humatrope and it takes at least 4-6 weeks for igf1 to increase. At least for me. I did blood work on 4iu a day with a baseline of igf at 180 and every week the number was going up slowly but steadily.

3 months on 6 ui ed

 

[Simobbuilder]

At the same time i am not surprised, i've bought 600 ui for 500 usd, u don't think with this price we can get real gh.

 

[Simobbuilder]

Unfortunatly we will always have an excuse so no one can prouve that gh is shit.
Gh serum isn't important for me for my cycles, what matters is the igf1
I am 22 yo i don't have a low igf, my liver is good, i've taken a fucking 10 ui and waited 3h30 to let the gh convert to igf, and did my bloodwork, didn't eat anything after the pin, it was a morning.
When u have this kind of problems yeah maybe u will get 450 or 500 ng, it's low for a 10 ui pin.
But god sake i got levels of someone who doesn't take gh

 

[Savagesteve]

I would love to but i am only a student i don't have enough money to test a gh, that's why i didn't do both gh serum and igf1, it costs a lot, i've already spent money for this gh, i won't spend more, especially that i can't no more buy from him.
And who are talking about reduding igf levels, i've did the good protocol that all my friends do and i was off gear no tren, it was done a week after my nandrolone cycle

If only one week after a nandrolone cycle the gear still hadn’t cleared your system. I don’t know enough about the effect of nandrolone on igf-1 to comment otherwise.

 

[Simobbuilder]

If only one week after a nandrolone cycle the gear still hadn’t cleared your system. I don’t know enough about the effect of nandrolone on igf-1 to comment otherwise.

Nandrolone raise the natural igf, like trenbolone and anadrol
I've seen some bloodwork of a friend
On npp his igf1 was about 250
On tren a his igf1 was 299

 

[GdaddyGains]

I would love to but i am only a student i don't have enough money to test a gh, that's why i didn't do both gh serum and igf1, it costs a lot, i've already spent money for this gh, i won't spend more, especially that i can't no more buy from him.
And who are talking about reduding igf levels, i've did the good protocol that all my friends do and i was off gear no tren, it was done a week after my nandrolone cycle

I can get my IGF-1 and GH serum tested for around $60 at my TRT clinic.

 

[Omegistosalex]

I have been using the anavar for 2 weeks now, strength is definetely up by a lot

 

[Simobbuilder]

I can get my IGF-1 and GH serum tested for around $60 at my TRT clinic.

With pharmasource it will be useless he's convinced that his gh is well dosed

 

[Savagesteve]

With pharmasource it will be useless he's convinced that his gh is well dosed

Didn’t he have it tested 2 different times?

 

[Simobbuilder]

Didn’t he have it tested 2 different times?

You can't believe a test done by the dealer bro

 

[MiaRage22]

You can't believe a test done by the dealer bro

What can you believe then?

Can you ever truly believe anything?

Minds EXPLODE...... lol

 

[TenPin]

You can't believe a test done by the dealer bro

What was the result of the test you did on his GH ... did it come back as under-dosed or as advertised ?

 

[Savagesteve]

You can't believe a test done by the dealer bro

So send one of your vials in