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Phreezer's First cycle FAQ

Hey guys i didnt know how to do a thread on my own... sorry... but im a new time steroid takeer and was hoping for some advice please... im 6'4 and weigh 185 lbs but alot of that is in my stomach.. please help me
 
i dont know if this is against the rules on this website, but if its not can anyone recomend some safe legit sites to purchase steroids on? cause i dont want to get ripped off buying some crap thats not real.
 
TLash20 said:
i dont know if this is against the rules on this website, but if its not can anyone recomend some safe legit sites to purchase steroids on? cause i dont want to get ripped off buying some crap thats not real.
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great posto but i have just one big question...
why the writer say to start pct on last shot?dont we have to wait until the last aas clears out the system?
 
wondering if anyone knows anything about prohormones or if im in the wrong forum with this....if anyone can help me out though that would be great thanks..

first cycle
Cycle
-Muscle Tech Anabolic Halo
-HyperTEST hypertrophic Testosterone
-Competitive Edge Labs H-Drol haladrol clone

Post Cycle
- SNS Inhibit-E
 
Phreezer said:
YOUR FIRST CYCLE Walkthrough by Phreezer

First things first... I AM NOT A DOCTOR! I do not believe in the real use of Steroids. I believe that for Role playing purposes it is fine to discuss the use, but no one SHOULD ever take steroids unless they are under the direct supervision of a doctor!!! Do NOT take what I say Seriously, This thread and all posts that I make on this board are not to be used for real world application. EVERYTHING I SAY IS FOR ROLE PLAYING PURPOSES ONLY! AGAIN!! DO NOT USE ANY KIND OF ILLEGAL DRUGS!

This thread is intended for the Inexperienced AAS user. In this thread
I will cover Simple steroid administration and three simple cycles. Along with simple Post cycle recovery, all in One place, so you dont have to search multiple threads. If youre about to do your first cycle, I hope you will find this thread beneficial.

Ill begin with the basics, Needle size, Drawing your oil from a vial,
And injection techniques.

NEEDLE SIZE: Typical needle size for most oils is 22 24 gauge 1 1 .
For ease of use, I am recommending glute shots. For these I suggest a 23 gauge
1 Needle. (Good places to get needles is GPZ Services and http://www.carecenter.com/
These sites also sell amp openers which is something I also recommend)

DRAWING OIL: First, Remove the cap from your needle; draw back about 1 cc of air.
Insert the needle into the rubber stopper on the vial; slowly push the air inside the vial.
This will increase the pressure inside of the vial making the process of drawing the oil
Easier. Now draw the desired amount. Remove the needle and cap it. Unscrew the old needle and put a new needle on the syringe. Drawing will always dull a Needle. Dull needles hurt, and needles are too cheap to be stingy with them. Change the needle!
Next, turn the syringe up (needle tip up) and slowly press the plunger Until you have a couple of drops of oil come out of the tip, you can tap the syringe to get Any small air bubbles out but it isnt necessary. For opening amps, obviously an amp opener is easiest. However if you dont have one or simply dont want to bother with getting one its not that big of a deal. Using a metal file, score the neck of the amp all the way around the amp. Wrap the amp in a Klenex and snap off the top. Inspect the oil for any glass fragments, very rarely do any glass fragments ever get inside the amp. Set the amp down on a flat level surface. Uncap your syringe and put the needle all the way to the bottom of the amp inside one of the corners. Slowly and steadily, draw the oil from the amp by pulling back on the plunger, If your careful, you wont have to change the needle. If you bump the needle into the glass bottom of the amp, you should probably change it. Believe it or not, this will seriously dull a needle. And Dull needles Hurt.


INJECTION TECHNIQUE: You may want to experiment with your injections on an orange before you move onto your body. Locate the outer middle/upper section of your glute. For a picture go to www.spotinjections.com there is even a video that will show you the entire process. The correct injection site is critical. Believe me, you dont want to
Put a needle into your sciatic nerve. Using your free hand take three fingers and stretch the skin over your injection site. This will keep the needle from bouncing off your skin and will also reduce bleeding and oil leakage after you remove the needle. The hole made
By the injection will become covered by the skin you stretched out of the way.
When you start your injection insert the needle in straight, do not go at a funny angle or move your hand around while inserting. When you insert the needle you may want to go slow (Trust me, it really isnt that painful). Push the needle all the way in, using two fingers pull the plunger back about a quarter of an inch; check for air bubbles (You should see a couple of small air bubbles come in the chamber of the syringe when pulling back on the plunger) [This is called ASPIRATING Never inject any where in your body without first ASPIRATING] If you pull back on the plunger and blood comes into the syringe, Immediately REMOVE the needle from your glute; Your about to inject into a vein and that would be very bad. In fact its dangerous. Usually the vein will just collapse but the oil could get to your heart, this would be very painful and potentially deadly.

Now back to Injecting.

Youve put the needle in, youve aspirated, and youve got a couple of air bubbles. Now slowly and steadily inject the oil until the syringe is empty. Remove the needle; with an alcohol treated cotton ball apply slight pressure to the injected site and massage gently for about 30 seconds to help disperse the oil. Thats it. Be sure to properly dispose of your needles. Its not fair to Otto the garbage man if he has to get stuck with one of your used needles because you were too lazy to dispose of it properly.

I hope this didnt sound Complicated, because it really isnt. Believe me, I played ball with guys who used AAS, and they couldnt spell their names the same way twice in a row. If these idiots can do it, so can you.

Now onto cycles. All cycles will be 9 weeks in length and involve bi-weekly injections.

CYCLE ONE: So easy your grandmother might consider going on. This is a test only cycle. I am using Sustanon in this example but enanthate or cypionate can be used in the same manner. I like sustanon because its cheap, its readily available, its quick acting, and its very effective. Later on Youll learn Sustanon is better EOD because of the proprionate in it, but for your First cycle, this method of BI weekly injections will be VERY effective.

Week 1-9: 500mg Sustanon
250mg per injection. Alternate Glutes.

I dont believe frontloading is really necessary for a first cycle and sustanon is self tapering so you dont need to worry about slowly lowering the dosage (I believe tapering off is Bullshit anyway, but some people believe in it) Ill address it if anyone wants me to.

CYCLE TWO: Sustanon and Deca. (Once again Im using Sustanon as the example but the substitution of Enanthate or Cypionate will yield similar results.

Deca is very good for strength and is helpful in allowing you to keep your gains. It does have some negative side effects. The worst of these being Deca Dick Deca shuts down the bodys production of testosterone rather quickly. By itself you will lose your sex drive almost completely. Without Testosterone you will find it difficult to achieve and maintain an erection. (Captain Winky Just wont stand at attention) This is why it is always recommended to stack Deca with some form of test. Deca also takes longer to clear your system. That is why one will typically stop administering Deca about two weeks prior to the conclusion of your cycle.

Weeks 1-7: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 8-9: 500mg Sustanon
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon

CYCLE THREE: Sustanon, Deca, D-bol

This time we are going to add an oral to the cycle. The injectables will be administered in the same manner as CYCLE TWO.

D-bol is one of the better oral steroids out there, and stacks very well with test and deca. Its been around for a long time. Arnold was once even quoted saying D-bol the breakfast of champions. However D-bol isnt candy and should be used correctly.
D-bol is 17-alkylated, and as with most orals is hard on the liver. Because of this I recommend buying some Milk thistle and supplementing this along with your cycle. D-bol is fast acting and will give you slight strength and slight mass gains rather quickly.
Some of the sides of D-bol are increased water retention, increased blood pressure, itchy skin, redness of neck and ears. All of these symptoms are fairly mild and differ from person to person. You may experience none of these, some of these or all of these. Everyone is different. Just monitor yourself and if you become too uncomfortable stop using the d-bol.

Weeks 1-4: D-bol 25-30mg ED (Broken up over three dosages through the day) 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 5-7: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 8-9: 500mg Sustanon

THATS IT!

Any of these cycles will give you good results providing your training, diet, and rest are all up to par. These cycles will also help give you a better understanding of AAS administration. Whichever one of these cycles you try may depend on your comfort level, your fear, or some financial restriction.

I feel that post cycle recovery needs to be addressed. There is so much information on these available in current threads that I decided to leave it out. If anyone needs info on
This I will add it to this thread.

Ok, Here is the addition of Post cycle recovery that I promised. I also added something about opening amps in the drawing your oils section.

Clomid, Nolvadex, HCG, Arimidex These are the ones I have the most experience with. For Femara; Post a question on the main board.

Standard Recovery cycle.

HCG: 1000IUs For Ten days. Starting one day after last injection.
Clomid: Starting on the last day of The HCG.
Day 1: 150mg
Day 2-8: 100mg ED
Day 9-16: 50mg ED
Day 17-24: 50mg EOD
NOLVADEX: 20mg ED Starting and Ending on the same day As the HCG.
If you are pron to gyno, or are having Itchy Nipples, painful nipples or lumps in your nipples. Administer 40mg-80mg ED For Two weeks.
Nolvadex is also something you can take throughout your entire cycle. You might try
10mg ED (1/2 tab). It will reduce water retention and help keep you from getting gyno.
I believe that arimidex would be a better choice to administer during cycle because Nolvadex lowers IGF-1 levels where arimidex increases them if you take arimidex during your cycle, .5mg ED should be sufficient.

None of these amounts are completely set in stone. You can do 500-1000IUs Of HCG
ED for Ten days, You can start at 200mg Clomid and change the amounts over the cycle a little, Drop the Nolvadex, Drop the clomid and take 40mg Nolva ED for post cycleFor different examples, do a search, or post a question on the main board asking for other peoples post cycle recovery plans. Im sure some of the other guys will post info on Arimidex and liquidex.

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This needs to be takn down..there is so much wrong with this...You are gonna have these newbies doin this shit???? The PCT is a joke..WTF r u thinking man??????? The last 2 paragraphs make no sense....

TAKE THIS DOWN!!!!!!!!
 
weak-link said:
This needs to be takn down..there is so much wrong with this...You are gonna have these newbies doin this shit???? The PCT is a joke..WTF r u thinking man??????? The last 2 paragraphs make no sense....

TAKE THIS DOWN!!!!!!!!
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What exactly do you believe is wrong?

What is wrong with the PCT and what in your opinion is a better PCT for these newbie cycles?
 
k, i wanted your advice phreezer..

my first stack is almost ready, im still tweaking it....i definately want equipoise in it as a non aromatizer...i was gonna go with a more non estrogenic stack and try and keep test out if possible..

my question though is since libido might become an issue, if is included tren in the stack would this remedy the problem since it states tren increases sexual drive??

i was thiking 400 mg week (m/f inject) eq, with tren on m/f inj at 200 per week...i would be using winstrol orals the first 6 wks 50 mg a day...

so now my next question.... 4 weeks in i was planning hcg during cycle 500iu every 6 days... then 500iu daily after the last shot for 5 to 10 days..
regarding nolv and clomid... should i still follow your guide since its non ar??

thanks for you help...i eagerly await reply...

fyi: if in the event i added 325 mg sust instead of tren, should i take 10 mg of nolv daily?? i heard this is pretty potent stuff and i should only take 10 mg every 5 days on the cycle..
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Bumping again to help stop this new rash of newbies from asking questions with out searching for themselves...

here you go kids...
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Millard, is there anyway to create a script that would block newbie from posting until they've actually read and searched x amount of threads?[}:)]

thanks Phreezer
 
hii
phreezer
m into first cycle
m 21 year old
so what option should i go for
ht is 185 cms
and weight is 220 lbs with 15 % body fat

i want to bulk up for the december contest junior national championships
i new user in steroids
so
u got any suggestions

thanks
 
GO Hard or GO Home said:
hii
phreezer
m into first cycle
m 21 year old
so what option should i go for
ht is 185 cms
and weight is 220 lbs with 15 % body fat

i want to bulk up for the december contest junior national championships
i new user in steroids
so
u got any suggestions

thanks
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Phreezer hasn't posted in ages (1) and (2) you are too young to be cycling. You're going to damage your body. Stay away.

Eitherway, you need a lot more than one cycle to join a bodybuilding show.
 
GO Hard or GO Home said:
hii
phreezer
m into first cycle
m 21 year old
so what option should i go for
ht is 185 cms
and weight is 220 lbs with 15 % body fat

i want to bulk up for the december contest junior national championships
i new user in steroids
so
u got any suggestions

thanks
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Suggestions:
  1. Wait a few years
  2. During this time... lift, eat, and sleep to the best of your ability
  3. During this time... read and educate yourself on everything having anything to do with steroids.
  4. When you are one of the best lookin dudes in the gym, have 10% to 12% body fat, and feel that your at your peak...then you will know what questions to ask.

Buy the books here on Meso. EDUCATE YOURSELF

Reinheart is correct. You are too young, you are still developing into a man. Don't stunt yourself by starting too early.

peace

-bj
 
I'm 27 y/o, been training for 8 years now. I'm 5'9", 215 lbs. It's been a while since i read and gets informations about steroids. And i've decided to try for the first time the second cycle of Phreezer post. I'll post what i've plan to do and would like some feedbacks if theres something you would change / add / erase.

Weeks 1-7: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Arimidex 0.5mg ED.

Weeks 8-9: 500mg Sustanon
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon
Arimidex 0.5mg ED.

Recovery Cycle
HCG: 1000IU’s For Ten days. Starting one day after last injection.
NOLVADEX: 20mg ED Starting and Ending on the same day As the HCG.

Clomid: Starting on the last day of The HCG.
Day 1: 150mg
Day 2-8: 100mg ED
Day 9-16: 50mg ED
Day 17-24: 50mg ED

(+-700 mg of Novaldex in back-up, enought to administer 50mg ED For Two weeks if needed.)
 
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