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no, and I disagree, no one could make that bullshit up. it might work on the paid source boards and with newbies, but most people here would agree that it's bullshit

i can live with that, it's more important to me personally to protect people from spending their hard earned money on what I consider to be an inconsistent product that's being described as good as pharmaceutical hgh. Remember, this is not a source board, it's for the members. this thread took some really weird turns in regards to how most sources are treated at meso

You gotta realize youre not protecting anyone. Over the time you've been here you've made accusation after accusation about members. Never once being true. So now your posts don't mean shit. You're not speaking for Meso. You're speaking for you. So cut out the this is for Meso bullshit. If you really care about Meso and want to help just disappear. I guarantee afterwards Meso will be a better place.
 
You gotta realize youre not protecting anyone. Over the time you've been here you've made accusation after accusation about members. Never once being true. So now your posts don't mean shit. You're not speaking for Meso. You're speaking for you. So cut out the this is for Meso bullshit. If you really care about Meso and want to help just disappear. I guarantee afterwards Meso will be a better place.

not going anywhere jay, and I've usually been correct, and apologized when I was wrong.
 
You gotta realize youre not protecting anyone. Over the time you've been here you've made accusation after accusation about members. Never once being true. So now your posts don't mean shit. You're not speaking for Meso. You're speaking for you. So cut out the this is for Meso bullshit. If you really care about Meso and want to help just disappear. I guarantee afterwards Meso will be a better place.


And when @biggerben69 says someones alright , guys listen . @muscle96ss has been truthful from what Ive seen too . These are the guys we believe until proven otherwise .
 
How about instead of being wrong and apologizing, stop making baseless accusations? Maybe at some point someone will actually take you seriously again.
going to bed guys, i'll give some thought to what you said
 
i can live with that, it's more important to me personally to protect people from spending their hard earned money on what I consider to be an inconsistent product that's being described as good as pharmaceutical hgh. Remember, this is not a source board, it's for the members. this thread took some really weird turns in regards to how most sources are treated at meso


So you seriously think cause u bash someone with no proof your saving us money? Your not. All your doing is bumping the thread. Your the shill. U keep bumping this to the top.
 
And when @biggerben69 says someones alright , guys listen . @muscle96ss has been truthful from what Ive seen too . These are the guys we believe until proven otherwise .
I've been chatting privately with @muscles96ss this evening and think I may have judged him too harshly. I've been called a schill before for lodging a defense for a source. He may truly just be a big fan of TP, PD and Grey tops. The other meso members I respect who have also vouched for him certainly doesn't hurt either.

I will say this, if TP isn't giving him discounted Greys, he fucking should be, lol. His support, compensated or not, has undoubtedly helped TP and/or the hype around rips and Greys for a long time now. He's the kind of fan that pays dividends and the reason I had suspicions.
 
I've been chatting privately with @muscles96ss this evening and think I may have judged him too harshly. I've been called a schill before for lodging a defense for a source. He may truly just be a big fan of TP, PD and Grey tops. The other meso members I respect who have also vouched for him certainly doesn't hurt either.

I will say this, if TP isn't giving him discounted Greys, he fucking should be, lol. His support, compensated or not, has undoubtedly helped TP and/or the hype around rips and Greys for a long time now. He's the kind of fan that pays dividends and the reason I had suspicions.


Both BB69 and M96ss seem to know quite a bit about GH , which I know little but I am learning. So I read and trust what they and others say .
Nothing beats experience :cool:
 
I don't know who is a shill or not and I don't care. No one is holding us down and pinning us cause they want to. We are all making the decision on our own. The only person we can blame is ourselves for buying bunk gear. It's not legal.....
 
How about instead of being wrong and apologizing, stop making baseless accusations? Maybe at some point someone will actually take you seriously again.
Jay, I've only apologized once, the rest of the times I've been correct. The beauty of this forum is that it's uncensored, and people using their status (like awesome member) means nothing. If you want to kiss up to muscle and PD, that's fine (the beauty of an uncensored forum), but don't give me shit for expressing my opinion.
 
Jay, I will explain the problem I have with PD and muscle. about a year ago, Dr J and mands started their testing thread. I really appreciated it. Muscle and his band of cronies came over from PM and attacked them endlessly. They could have debated them professionally, but instead resorted to personnel attacks, and very questionable science. Nobody here stuck up for them which was really sad. Don't know if it was indifference, people not knowing about hgh, or what. I than went on a mission to teach myself about hgh( didn't need muscle or pd or tp), I googled it and read massive amounts. From what I've concluded, generic hgh is a waste of money because it's very difficult to manufacture, and thus totally inconsistent from batch to batch. Hence, i only use pharma hgh (and if can't afford it, I don't use anything)
All of the sudden this thread pops up, and PD becomes some type of golden child with his backup from muscle. In all of the years I've been on meso, I've never seen a source coddled like this one. If you guys want to buddy up with PD and Muscle, that's fine. But don't break my balls because I'm actually questioning the guy
 
Jay, I've only apologized once, the rest of the times I've been correct. The beauty of this forum is that it's uncensored, and people using their status (like awesome member) means nothing. If you want to kiss up to muscle and PD, that's fine (the beauty of an uncensored forum), but don't give me shit for expressing my opinion.
The problem with opinions and theory's is that they lack a certain tangible evidence. The first thing I was originally told about Meso is that this board was about the "facts" unlike some of the other less admirable boards. So when people like myself included come on this board wasting time with conspiracy theories and assumptions without practical first hand experience with that source or the individual, tangible evidence or "analytical data" they are actually diluting what I believe to be one Meso primary purposes, more so than actually helping other members. (Sorry PD for cluttered up your thread) Some people need to be reminded why we are here---- It's not always to talk and share BullShit, Most of the people I know on here come for "The Facts!!"
 
No prob I think by now all can see right thru RPBB crap. I wont be responding to him anymore. Hes a joke in my book now
That's OK, my guess is when t the greys are shown to be inconsistent crap in the testing thread like the first ones that were tested, nothing else will need to be said
 
That's OK, my guess is when t the greys are shown to be inconsistent crap in the testing thread like the first ones that were tested, nothing else will need to be said

I respect your opinion regarding generic GH, rpbb. However, you have reached a point where you are doing nothing more than trolling this thread...

Why don't you start a separate thread detailing your thoughts on generic GH?

The fact of the matter is - some (most) guys can't afford to buy pharma gh. It's a fact many have to accept. Generic prices are affordable for many though. I've gotten great results so far with generic and even if I buy a few batches of bunk GH, I'll still spend less in the long run than if I spent money on pharma. I can afford to run moderate amounts of pharma but, so far, I haven't felt the need to pick up a kit of Seros or anything... I really don't want to basically triple my expenses on it if I am content.

I'm certainly not saying generic is superior to pharma but it's a great alternative choice for many guys that have no other option... some of the things you say about it are the equivalent to spitting in the shoes of those who have made the decision.

Just my thoughts. Not meant to be hostile towards you either. It's sad to see good members arguing and attacking one another rather than debating and respecting one another for the betterment of the community. Maybe I'm not one to talk.
 
Jay, I will explain the problem I have with PD and muscle. about a year ago, Dr J and mands started their testing thread. I really appreciated it. Muscle and his band of cronies came over from PM and attacked them endlessly. They could have debated them professionally, but instead resorted to personnel attacks, and very questionable science. Nobody here stuck up for them which was really sad. Don't know if it was indifference, people not knowing about hgh, or what. I than went on a mission to teach myself about hgh( didn't need muscle or pd or tp), I googled it and read massive amounts. From what I've concluded, generic hgh is a waste of money because it's very difficult to manufacture, and thus totally inconsistent from batch to batch. Hence, i only use pharma hgh (and if can't afford it, I don't use anything)
All of the sudden this thread pops up, and PD becomes some type of golden child with his backup from muscle. In all of the years I've been on meso, I've never seen a source coddled like this one. If you guys want to buddy up with PD and Muscle, that's fine. But don't break my balls because I'm actually questioning the guy

rpbb - I am not going to go back and rehash that entire thread all over again its pointless. What you missed about that thread was there was another thread some time prior where I was attacked endlessly and personally as well by Dr. Jim and others(ironically I was called a shill for Karl and being on his payroll at that time). So you need to understand the history and the context to understand the scenario.

Secondly, I think extremely highly of mands and we have always gotten along just fine. I consider us friends in the internet world sense; so you insinuating that I was attacking him is completely inaccurate.

Thirdly, I would love to have a professional debate with you or anyone on the facts. The facts is what I bring to the table but you cannot seem to accept the facts and are the one that chooses to always take the discussion to the gutter by calling me a rep,shill, or whatever. You have this preconceived notion that real GH is too expensive to manufacture, which just is not true. Its not something you can research on the internet. Go to China and do some real live research or talk to people that are actually in the business and understand the ins and outs of the business and learn from them. You will be surprised at what you learn. What you will find is that there are really 2 camps out there. One has legit real GH and the other is simply faking it and giving you nothing. When it comes to the inconsistencies that usually has more to do with the source. See in most cases they have the factory make it any strength or purity they want. The source can easily skimp on purity to save money or the truly dishonest ones can throw in vials with lower dosed content to save money. Things are much more detailed than I have presented here, but you get the picture.

So, if you want to keep talking about the past and be disruptive then please just stay away. If you want to talk about the facts and have a real debate then bring it on, lets have a real discussion. I have yet to see you post anything factual showing that it isn't possible to manufacture real generic GH at a reasonable price. Now if someone can make a real product and sell it at a fraction of the price of what the pharma market is dictating; then why would that person skimp on quality or content to make a few extra bucks? If they are in it for the long haul, they would be a fool to scam people when they can rake in the money by running an honest business. There aren't a lot of sources that run this business model but there are a few and they have my support. That doesn't make me a shill or a rep; just someone looking out of the community and trying to guide them towards those are not going to scam them.
 
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