RPBB, I like you, man, I do. But, sometimes it seems you're beating a dead horse man. You know I like Muscle, too. Regarding GH and all matters surrounding GH, Muscles, Mands, Dr. Jim and Professor X are - in many ways - in a league of their own. I don't really interject into what they're saying, I use it as an opportunity to learn. I feel you're cutting yourself short in your learning process by being so headstrong and convinced Muscle is some sort of shill. As I explained to you in the GH Assay thread, Muscle and I have chatted a bunch, never once has he pushed or pimped a product. Actually, he did, Genotropin pens. He gave me an idea of what I should spend, how to find good ones, what to look for when they arrive to make sure they're okay etc. etc. Now, please tell me how he's a TP, HK, PD or Genotropin rep...? He's not, you really can't believe he is, do you? You're smarter than that. Is this more of a personal vendetta because you disagree with the way he handled the original testing thread? If yes, man up and realize it's water under the bridge at this point and get along. The dude didn't fuck you, me or anyone else over.