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[ZDogg]

At 6iu it may always feel like that. I am on 5iu and three months in I still have CTS aka super tight wrists.

Brotha, that isn't the answer I'm looking for!!

Shit maybe I'll have to drop my dosage, for awhile, and see if slowly cranking it back up will help.. I don't mind the tightness, but the pins and needles can get a little brutal.. I'll keep it here for another week, and see if anything gets better...

 

[rutman]

@ZDogg I suggest that you drop back to 3iu per day for the first month and increase an iu every month after that. You're taking too much, too early. GH is a slow and steady game.

 

[ZDogg]

@ZDogg I suggest that you drop back to 3iu per day for the first month and increase an iu every month after that. You're taking too much, too early. GH is a slow and steady game.

I appreciate that advice bro.. I kinda ran your protocol, I started at 3iu, and increased an iu every week, haha.. just like me to hammer it right out of the gate.. I've been thinking maybe it's smart to cut back, and slowly increase.. plus the kits I have will last longer.. I'll run that route, and get back to 5 in a couple of months...

 

[Ripped]

I appreciate that advice bro.. I kinda ran your protocol, I started at 3iu, and increased an iu every week, haha.. just like me to hammer it right out of the gate.. I've been thinking maybe it's smart to cut back, and slowly increase.. plus the kits I have will last longer.. I'll run that route, and get back to 5 in a couple of months...

Split dose half morning other half early afternoon should help.
Or like @rutman said lower dose.

 

[Evom1]

Brotha, that isn't the answer I'm looking for!!

Shit maybe I'll have to drop my dosage, for awhile, and see if slowly cranking it back up will help.. I don't mind the tightness, but the pins and needles can get a little brutal.. I'll keep it here for another week, and see if anything gets better...

Same here man, it never went away for me

 

[ZDogg]

Split dose half morning other half early afternoon should help.
Or like @rutman said lower dose.

I'm already running it at 2.5iu, 2x per day.. I skipped last night and dropped to 1.5iu this morning.. I'll try slowly increasing the dose.. I figured at a month with no real sides, except the rash that went away with switching to IM, I was in the clear.. then, all of a sudden, I can't feel my hands.. fuck!

Same here man, it never went away for me

Did you go the route these guys are suggesting, and run a lower dose?? hoping that works.. I can take that tight hands, but not feeling them is pretty brutal...

 

[Ripped]

I'm already running it at 2.5iu, 2x per day.. I skipped last night and dropped to 1.5iu this morning.. I'll try slowly increasing the dose.. I figured at a month with no real sides, except the rash that went away with switching to IM, I was in the clear.. then, all of a sudden, I can't feel my hands.. fuck!



Did you go the route these guys are suggesting, and run a lower dose?? hoping that works.. I can take that tight hands, but not feeling them is pretty brutal...

You can also do 5 on 2 off that helps.

 

[Jeffg353]

I appreciate that advice bro.. I kinda ran your protocol, I started at 3iu, and increased an iu every week, haha.. just like me to hammer it right out of the gate.. I've been thinking maybe it's smart to cut back, and slowly increase.. plus the kits I have will last longer.. I'll run that route, and get back to 5 in a couple of months...

I started at 2iu for the first few weeks, then up to 3iu (split 1.5 iu am/pm) for another week or 2, then to 3.5iu for a week, now at 4iu (split 2iu am/pm). Sides are just about gone except for some tightness in my hands but only in the mornings when I first get up. I increased dose only when sides were gone. They'd come back but only for a day or two. My ankles, left side more than right, swelled up for about the entire 1st month.

 

[ZDogg]

I started at 2iu for the first few weeks, then up to 3iu (split 1.5 iu am/pm) for another week or 2, then to 3.5iu for a week, now at 4iu (split 2iu am/pm). Sides are just about gone except for some tightness in my hands but only in the mornings when I first get up. I increased dose only when sides were gone. They'd come back but only for a day or two. My ankles, left side more than right, swelled up for about the entire 1st month.

Good looking out bro.. upping after the sides are gone, and maybe .5iu at a time, might be the way to go.. I'll give that a shot.. Deca makes my ankles swell like a motherfucker, which I just pinned the last of, for this cycle, so I'm hoping with that gone, and my test dropping to 250 a week, for a cruise, maybe some swelling will go away.. you guys have helped me learn, a bunch, quick, with having no experience with growth, I appreciate the crash course!

 

[blackquad]

As promised pre igf bloods

 

[Jeffg353]

As promised pre igf bloodsView attachment 73188

Good job and thanks for sharing. I wish I had gotten my baseline levels. Bought into the hype that gh takes a few weeks to raise IGF levels. So after only 3 days on Gh thought I'd be able to get a result at least close to baseline maybe if anything only slightly elevated. Results came back at almost 400 so not even close to baseline considering my age ranges average.

1 question...why did u get tested for female?

 

[Jeffg353]

Good looking out bro.. upping after the sides are gone, and maybe .5iu at a time, might be the way to go.. I'll give that a shot.. Deca makes my ankles swell like a motherfucker, which I just pinned the last of, for this cycle, so I'm hoping with that gone, and my test dropping to 250 a week, for a cruise, maybe some swelling will go away.. you guys have helped me learn, a bunch, quick, with having no experience with growth, I appreciate the crash course!

How u making out with dropping the dose back down? Any relief from the sides?

 

[blackquad]

Good job and thanks for sharing. I wish I had gotten my baseline levels. Bought into the hype that gh takes a few weeks to raise IGF levels. So after only 3 days on Gh thought I'd be able to get a result at least close to baseline maybe if anything only slightly elevated. Results came back at almost 400 so not even close to baseline considering my age ranges average.

1 question...why did u get tested for female?

I wanted my wife to see where she started and where she is going with it. That way she can keep track of how she feels at different levels.we can then dial in her dosage on how she feels and on how her bloods look. I think it's my ocd of trying to capture everything through her journey and trying to provide feedback to the meso community.

 

[ZDogg]

How u making out with dropping the dose back down? Any relief from the sides?

Thanks for asking brotha.. I didn't pin for 2 days. and have only done one pin of 1.5iu, this morning.. the tingling has definitely lessened, but not 100% gone.. actually my left hand is probably 95% normal, while my right is probably 75% normal.. I'll run 3iu a day for the next week, and see where I'm at, if I need to run like a 5 on, 2 off, I will, but hoping I don't have to at only 3iu..

 

[Evom1]

Did you go the route these guys are suggesting, and run a lower dose?? hoping that works.. I can take that tight hands, but not feeling them is pretty brutal...

4iu per day wrecked me. I backed down to 1.5iu for a few weeks but it wasn't getting much better. Dropped it for a week, switched to Grey tops at 3iu and worked up to 4iu and it gave way less sides than the black tops did. I switched back to black tops after a few months at 3iu and it's definitely more than with the Grey tops, but not as bad as it was originally. I have been running 500mg dandelion root daily to help. And yes I'm treating the vial as 15iu

 

[ZDogg]

4iu per day wrecked me. I backed down to 1.5iu for a few weeks but it wasn't getting much better. Dropped it for a week, switched to Grey tops at 3iu and worked up to 4iu and it gave way less sides than the black tops did. I switched back to black tops after a few months at 3iu and it's definitely more than with the Grey tops, but not as bad as it was originally. I have been running 500mg dandelion root daily to help. And yes I'm treating the vial as 15iu

Dang, that sucks! Is it even worth running 1.5-2 iu? I do treat the vials as 13iu, and thought I should probably up that to 15.. i still have 22ish vials of blacks left, which will last 2-3x as long if I can barely run anything, but I will probably switch to greys unless I'm feeling perfect by the end of these.. I was really hoping that a couple of weeks, and the hands would be normal.. hearing you scares me a little..

 

[Jeffg353]

I wanted my wife to see where she started and where she is going with it. That way she can keep track of how she feels at different levels.we can then dial in her dosage on how she feels and on how her bloods look. I think it's my ocd of trying to capture everything through her journey and trying to provide feedback to the meso community.

My bad I didn't realize it was for ur wife. Was thinking it was for u. Definitely looking forward to seeing how things progress. It's a great idea and don't really know of any women performing blood tests while running it. So I think it'll be pretty cool to see how it effects the opposite sex. Don't quote me on this but I believe women have a higher IGF levels than men. U should start a log.

 

[Jeffg353]

Dang, that sucks! Is it even worth running 1.5-2 iu? I do treat the vials as 13iu, and thought I should probably up that to 15.. i still have 22ish vials of blacks left, which will last 2-3x as long if I can barely run anything, but I will probably switch to greys unless I'm feeling perfect by the end of these.. I was really hoping that a couple of weeks, and the hands would be normal.. hearing you scares me a little..

I think upping the bacwater to 1.5mL would definitely help. They say to see the most out of a gh cycle u should shoot for 6+ months. So even if u have to drop down to 2iu for a week or two will only make the kit last longer. It's not a sprint to get up to 8-10iu think of it as more of a marathon...gotta play the long game. Definitely keep us updated cuz I'm about to start those blacks in the next day or two.

 

[rutman]

Dang, that sucks! Is it even worth running 1.5-2 iu? I do treat the vials as 13iu, and thought I should probably up that to 15.. i still have 22ish vials of blacks left, which will last 2-3x as long if I can barely run anything, but I will probably switch to greys unless I'm feeling perfect by the end of these.. I was really hoping that a couple of weeks, and the hands would be normal.. hearing you scares me a little..

Short answer....yes.

2iu can be a great dose for some, especially starting out. I know a guy who had been taking 2iu every night for nearly a year and you wouldn't believe the changes his body has made. He's running blacks as well

 

[Evom1]

Dang, that sucks! Is it even worth running 1.5-2 iu? I do treat the vials as 13iu, and thought I should probably up that to 15.. i still have 22ish vials of blacks left, which will last 2-3x as long if I can barely run anything, but I will probably switch to greys unless I'm feeling perfect by the end of these.. I was really hoping that a couple of weeks, and the hands would be normal.. hearing you scares me a little..

Well I put 1.5ml in each vial. I switched to greys because of the CTS. It was just too much. I'd spend the first 30 minutes of my morning working on getting feeling back in my hands. So I figured 1.5iu didn't seem like it was going to help me grow.

I've been running them in total now for almost 10 months