Please explain to me the HCG injection process

zumper said:
Please can you explain me the last you said." I would sterile filter the contents in a in a sealed sterile vial"
I am Greek and do not understand enough this,I do not think here i can find sealed sterile vials.Is it an emtpy vial?Could i put the remain testosterone in a new syrrige to store and how?
How many days can be kept in fridge without loosing efficacy?I have ask a many many people here like pharmacists and noone is sure,also for the HCG too.
Thanks.

Sterile filtering is the use of 22um filters that go between the syringe and the needle. This helps to remove any bacteria or foreign material that might have gotten into the testosterone after breaking open the ampule.
 
Annularnos said:
Draw 1cc of BSH2O into a syringe. Open one 5000IU amp. Inject the BSH2O into the powder in the amp. You now have 1cc of HCG containing 5000IU's. Draw the liquid out of the amp and place in the sterile vial. Now draw 4 MORE cc's of BSH2O into your syringe. Add this to the sterile vial. This will give you 5cc's of HCG at 1000IU's per cc. To inject 500IU....use 1/2 cc. To inject 1000IU....use 1cc. Be sure to maintain sterile conditions throughout the above procedure.....swab the amp, sterile vial, and BSH2O vial with alcohol. You can use 1 syringe for the above, however, I would recommend you use two.....one to draw and transfer the initial cc and 1 to add the other 4 cc's of BSH2O. That way you don't risk contaminating your BSH2O vial. You could also put 4 cc's of BSH2O in the sterile vial first and then mix and transfer the HCG (1 cc) to the sterile vial....this way you can safely use 1 syringe w/o risk of contamination to your BSH2O vial.


As others have stated - very nicely written.

A few questions:

1) Do you save the remaining BAC water for next month's HCG mixing? Refrigerated?
2) In this thread (https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134235700) DavidZ talks about using .5cc, 31gauge, 5/16" syringes. I'm guessing that if you are going to inject SQ 3x a week, you'd be injecting typically 500 IU at most, possibly less... So you wouldn't want to use a 3cc syringe to inject only 250 IU... So you would likely use different sized syringes for the mixing of the hCG / bac water versus the SQ injection?
3) I had a 3rd one, but it's escaping me now.

Thanks :)

Jack
 
1) don't know
2) David found out later doing HCG everyday worked much better he does 60 IU's a day. The best way to start doing HCG everyday is 100 IU's. I have found doing low dose's of HCG it works much better shooting into the Thigh using a small 27g 1ml x 1/2" lg. needle. It works much faster. If your shooting 1000 IU's or more this 500 this subQ works better. But for TRT this is to much.
JackBauer said:
As others have stated - very nicely written.

A few questions:

1) Do you save the remaining BAC water for next month's HCG mixing? Refrigerated?
2) In this thread (https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134235700) DavidZ talks about using .5cc, 31gauge, 5/16" syringes. I'm guessing that if you are going to inject SQ 3x a week, you'd be injecting typically 500 IU at most, possibly less... So you wouldn't want to use a 3cc syringe to inject only 250 IU... So you would likely use different sized syringes for the mixing of the hCG / bac water versus the SQ injection?
3) I had a 3rd one, but it's escaping me now.

Thanks :)

Jack
 
pmgamer18 said:
1) don't know
2) David found out later doing HCG everyday worked much better he does 60 IU's a day. The best way to start doing HCG everyday is 100 IU's. I have found doing low dose's of HCG it works much better shooting into the Thigh using a small 27g 1ml x 1/2" lg. needle. It works much faster. If your shooting 1000 IU's or more this 500 this subQ works better. But for TRT this is to much.

So you're doing IM hCG injections? Ok no that isn't what you are saying... I guess you are doing SQ shots into the thigh.

But if you are using a 1cc needle... Well, my point is that isn't measuing out 60 IU's rather difficult? (Like measurig 1/16 of an inch with a yard stick)

Or do use a different dilution of the hCG into the bac water, and really still inject like 1cc or .5cc?
 
JackBauer said:
So you're doing IM hCG injections? Ok no that isn't what you are saying... I guess you are doing SQ shots into the thigh.

But if you are using a 1cc needle... Well, my point is that isn't measuing out 60 IU's rather difficult? (Like measurig 1/16 of an inch with a yard stick)

Or do use a different dilution of the hCG into the bac water, and really still inject like 1cc or .5cc?
My HCG mixed is 10,000 IU's or 5mls when mixed I use Novarel so to do a 100 IU shot it's .1 mls my needle are in mls I don't pinch the skin to shoot into my thigh I stick the needle in all the way 1/2 " and shoot so I call this a half assed subQ shot.
 
pmgamer18 said:
My HCG mixed is 10,000 IU's or 5mls when mixed I use Novarel so to do a 100 IU shot it's .1 mls my needle are in mls I don't pinch the skin to shoot into my thigh I stick the needle in all the way 1/2 " and shoot so I call this a half assed subQ shot.

Phil, You meant to say that your 10,000IU Novarel is 10mls when mixed - right?
 
Man, it's hard to believe I posted this thread almost exactly a year ago when I was clueless about the HCG process. I've come a long way since then, thanks to the info I received on this board.

I learned more in the past year than I've learned through ten years of various endos.
 
pmgamer18 said:
My HCG mixed is 10,000 IU's or 5mls when mixed I use Novarel so to do a 100 IU shot it's .1 mls my needle are in mls I don't pinch the skin to shoot into my thigh I stick the needle in all the way 1/2 " and shoot so I call this a half assed subQ shot.

So you use a 1cc (or ml) needle to inject 0.1cc ?

Sorry for all the questions - I expect to get a script soon for hCG, and will get some one-on-one instructions from a nurse on the injection, but I want to be as educated as possible going into it.

Thanks :)
 
JackBauer said:
So you use a 1cc (or ml) needle to inject 0.1cc ?

Sorry for all the questions - I expect to get a script soon for hCG, and will get some one-on-one instructions from a nurse on the injection, but I want to be as educated as possible going into it.

Thanks :)
Ok here is some more help for you a good link on shoots. When you open this link on the left click on info to get to the front page.
http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm
 
Thanks PMGAMER.

If I do hCG 3x a week (mon-wed-fri, I assume)... Well, do people inject RIGHT before going to sleep, or at some specific time?
 
JackBauer said:
Thanks PMGAMER.

If I do hCG 3x a week (mon-wed-fri, I assume)... Well, do people inject RIGHT before going to sleep, or at some specific time?
Here is how I do my shots I wake up every morning at 5am and I am retired so I do my shots then and go back to bed. Most times I just lay there and injoy the feeling of well being and have sex with my wife. Sex after a shot of HCG is great for some reasion going slow and stopping brings on that feeling even more. If you stop for a second it comes in waves. Never posted this before but theres a first time for everything.
 
I have been doing extensive searching here and on google - as my Dr. just prescribed 500IU 3x a week of Novarel for 6 weeks. (Then we'll regroup, and determine where to lower the dosage too, and adjust the frequency)

There is some discrepancies out there on two issues:

1) Aspiration. To me it is only logical to aspirate to make absolutely sure you haven't hit an artery or vein directly... Which could be very bad.

2) The "pinch". Some suggest it isn't needed or shouldn't be used.. Others suggest it needs to be used, but there is discrepancies on whether the skin should be released prior to injection. To me, and granted I haven't done this yet - it seems that if you release, especially in an area (thigh) that may not have a lot of fat, since the needle is fully inserted... Releasing the fat, should dislocate the needle, probably thrusting it further in, possibly making your SQ shot now not exactly SQ.

I can find numerous articles on health websites that contradict each other on item #2.
 
When I first started on HCG I did Novarel 500 IUs 3 x's a week so this would be good. My Dr. told me not to pinch the skin doing this and sticking the needle just into the skin is a subQ shoot. I just beary the needle into my thigh and shoot.
JackBauer said:
I have been doing extensive searching here and on google - as my Dr. just prescribed 500IU 3x a week of Novarel for 6 weeks. (Then we'll regroup, and determine where to lower the dosage too, and adjust the frequency)

There is some discrepancies out there on two issues:

1) Aspiration. To me it is only logical to aspirate to make absolutely sure you haven't hit an artery or vein directly... Which could be very bad.

2) The "pinch". Some suggest it isn't needed or shouldn't be used.. Others suggest it needs to be used, but there is discrepancies on whether the skin should be released prior to injection. To me, and granted I haven't done this yet - it seems that if you release, especially in an area (thigh) that may not have a lot of fat, since the needle is fully inserted... Releasing the fat, should dislocate the needle, probably thrusting it further in, possibly making your SQ shot now not exactly SQ.

I can find numerous articles on health websites that contradict each other on item #2.
 
pmgamer18 said:
When I first started on HCG I did Novarel 500 IUs 3 x's a week so this would be good. My Dr. told me not to pinch the skin doing this and sticking the needle just into the skin is a subQ shoot. I just beary the needle into my thigh and shoot.
So, when you are shooting subQ, the needle and syringe are almost paralel to the skin, right?
If you would want intramuscular shot, the needle would be perpendicular to the skin, right?
 
JanSz said:
So, when you are shooting subQ, the needle and syringe are almost paralel to the skin, right?
If you would want intramuscular shot, the needle would be perpendicular to the skin, right?


I wouldn't shoot test parallel to the skin because it creates an infection. I did that once and I could barely walk for more than a week.
 
The_Skeptic said:
I wouldn't shoot test parallel to the skin because it creates an infection. I did that once and I could barely walk for more than a week.
I think Phil is talking about HCG.
What is your coment on doing HCG shots this way?
I guess it is normal subQ minus pinching the skin.
 
JanSz said:
I think Phil is talking about HCG.
What is your coment on doing HCG shots this way?
I guess it is normal subQ minus pinching the skin.

I think you're right about him talking about HCG, but there has been talk on this board about doing Test subQ and I don't want anybody to go through what I did by getting confused and shooting the Test sideways.

I ended up with a huge red swollen area inside my thigh. I was limping for a week. I was thinking that perhaps I had an abscess, but it ended up going away.

I think it had to do with the benzyl alcohol in the Test getting trapped between the skin. I've done Test in my thigh using insulin needles, but I've shot them straight in and I didn't have a problem.

I've never done HCG that way.
 
Her is what I am saying to hell with subQ shooting HCG or T I don't like the way it burns and is sore to days. And it takes a longer time to the stuff to work. I do both my T and HCG shots into my thigh using a 27g 1ml x 1/2" lg. needle. I do the shot just like this link.
http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm
 
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