Police State Thread

This guy has had his children taken from him wrongfully because of the hateful nature of the police. He started an organization called copwatch, where he tested the integrity of police, and caught a local police chief in an act of theft.. Needless to say, they retaliated.

 
@heady, animals in the car can certainly throw them off, so can roadkill near the stop point, and groceries in the car can ruin an interdiction officers day.
"Vandalism- as beautiful as a rock in a cop's face." K.C.
 
Not just in the US.

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/04/02/un-police-used-excessive-force-in-killing-mali-protesters
 
I believe this fear mongering involving "terrorism" whether it be domestic (right-wing or left-wing) or foreign is an excuse that is being used by our government to justify the increasing militarization of law enforcement agencies.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-Benjamin Franklin


“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”

-Thomas Jefferson


"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." (Sound familiar?)

-James Madison
 
I'm sorry for my part in clogging your thread , your right this is not the place. Forgive me I'll take it elsewhere.
I understand the MESO TANGENTS. That's why I love this place. But Political talk to me separates/divides us and keep us going in this inane blind circle, chasing the tail sort of speak. Not only as AAS people, but as a country. It's a shame. While we are arguing left, right, blue, red, we are losing are rights and liberties and they keep getting richer and more powerful.
But thanks.
 
I have to admit that any sense of respect I've ever had for law enforcement, be it federal, state or local (regardless of what side of the fence I was on) is completely and totally gone.
 
COP TAKES PHOTO WITH SNOOP DOGG, AND GETS IN TROUBLE FOR IT

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The Dallas Morning News reports DPS officials saw the post and immediately cited Spears for deficiencies that require counseling for associating with a known criminal.

Snoop Dogg, legally named Calvin Broadus, has been convicted multiple times of drug possession and even faced a murder charge in 1993 after his bodyguard shot and killed an alleged rival gang member. Both Snoop and his bodyguard were later acquitted.

Spears’ reprimand for counseling read: “While working a secondary employment job, Trooper Spears took a photo with a public figure who has a well-known criminal background including numerous drug charges. The public figure posted the photo on social media and it reflects poorly on the Agency.”

Officer Spears’ Attorney, Ty Clevenger, has maintained his client had no knowledge of the rapper’s past drug convictions, and merely recognized him as a public figure and gave consent for a photograph.

“Troopers get called down to work these events all the time and sometimes people want a picture with them,” Clevenger told the Morning News.

The attorney then told the paper he believes the action against Spears is a retaliatory action against his client, because the trooper reported an Alcoholic Beverage Commission officer last year for “unprofessional conduct.”

Because the formal action against Spears only called for counseling and was not considered a formal disciplinary action, the officer cannot appeal the decision.

The attorney has written a letter asking DPS director Steven McCraw to intervene. “This is not in their policy. They’re making this stuff up as they go,” he said.
 
There's more to the police state than evil cops shooting unarmed teens. Jackboots come in all shapes and sizes..

“Parental” Car Controls…
by eric • April 6, 2015

It’s being touted as “parental control” technology – a way for worried parents to keep tabs on their teenaged drivers. But what’s good for the proverbial goose (the 17-year-old) is just as good for the gander (his parents). And if recent precedents – and trends – are any guide, will be exactly that.

People never seem to see this coming.

Well, here it comes… again.

Both Ford and GM are in the process of fitting their latest models with technology that enables Mom or and Dad to track son and daughter’s movements, as well as how they move – and how fast they’re allowed to move. The car not only narcs them out, it supervises them in real time, limiting how fast they can drive, whether they’ve been wearing their saaaaaaaaafety belts and even how loud they’re allowed to crank the radio (Ford’s MyKey system).

GM’s system (TeenDriver) even spits out telemetry – a downloadable log of how fast the car was driven, how “aggressively” the driver accelerated (and braked) for the delectation (and, one assumes, discipline) of the parental units.

Even better, it detects – and record and transmits – “events” such as the engagement of the (increasingly de facto standard equipment in more and more new cars) “active” safety systems, such as Forward Collision Warning. Which – if you’ve had the chance to drive a new car so equipped – is so myopically and old lady-ish programmed that it become hysterical (flashing lights, loud buzzers) if you do not begin to brake frantically at least one astronomical unit prior to actually coming within physical range of (as an example) a car ahead of you turning off the road. Who will be long gone and off the road by the time you get there.

I am not exaggerating. Try a new car so equipped yourself and see.
There is more such good stuff on deck, too.

Some of it is already here – and may be in the car you’ve got right now.

How about Lane Departure Warning? Which hits you with annoying (and yep, potentially distracting) beeps whenever the system thinks you’ve wandered into the opposing lane, via cameras that – supposedly – read and recognize the yellow and white lines painted on the road. Problem is, these systems aren’t as smart as advertised – and will beep just as annoyingly (and distractingly) when you make a perfectly legal pass or turn-off the road, which often entails entails crossing over a painted line.

I’ve also discovered that many new cars – which all have “drive by wire” controls which put the engine and transmission completely under the sway of the computer rather than you – will force-engage Park or Neutral if you try backing the car up with the door open (as to rely on your own eyes rather than the fish-eyed view of the now-mandatory back-up camera. Instead of being able to park right up against the garage door, you are forced to park a foot away.

Because safety.

Who out there can see the dots? Or maybe connect them?

One such is the real-time monitoring of the parental units by the insurance mafia, which I’ve written about several times previously. Progressive Insurance (see here) has been the chief pusher of this, but has been stymied – so far – by the fact that it requires the “client” (who is in much the same position as a “customer” of the DMV’s) to opt in. People may not have much choice about buying insurance, but they still have the option of choosing not to plug in the little tattler Progressive (and the other insurance “families”) really, really, want to make us all plug into our car’s OBD diagnostic port – so that every instance of what they define as “unsafe” driving will be used as the basis for jacking up the rates we have no real choice but to pay. (Even if we have never so much as scuffed a fender over decades of driving, it must be added.)

Keep in mind that this entails much more than dunning us for mere “speeding” – that is, driving faster than almost uniformly ridiculous posted maximums that everyone – even cops charged with enforcing them – ignores (like the Prohibition idiocy of the 1920s) without the sky falling down. If you accelerate quickly to merge with traffic or pass a dawdler – that will be taken as evidence of “aggressive” driving (rather than the safe/skillful driving it actually is).

And forget about spirited driving. This includes not only driving at a faster-than-Cloverific pace (see here for more on that) but also such things as attempting to make it up your driveway after a snowstorm. The traction control/ABS will register “wheel slip” as you use throttle and momentum to ascend the grade – which will be taken as indicative of an “aggressive event” and – ding! – up go your premiums. Execute a necessary evasive maneuver, such as swerving to avoid a deer or a Clover that just pulled out in front of you…accelerating (or braking) rapidly for the same purposes… anything that triggers an ABS or TCS “event” – and … ding!

Or rather, ka-ching!

Anything other than the most passive, slow-motion, herd-style “driving” – if it can be called that – is what they’re after. They want to extirpate initiative, drown any impulse to ever do anything other than get in line and – mooooo! – follow the bumper of the car ahead to wherever you’re headed.

And here’s the thing about systems like MyKey and TeenDriver: You will not be able to opt out.

MyKey is already standard in all new Fords. TeenDriver will be standard in “select” new GM vehicles, beginning with the 2016 Malibu. If you doubt this will be expanded to include all GM vehicles, god bless your innocence.

Hyundai-Kia includes “geo fencing” as part of the technology suite built into all its new cars. It does what it sounds like it does. It imposes an electronically limited radius of action; if the teen – and soon, perhaps, you – drive beyond that radius… well, don’t you want to be kept safe?

If there’s any upside to being middle aged today, it’s that it was so much better to have been a teenager yesterday.When driving meant freedom – the first real taste of it in a typical young person’s life. You got in the car and you were finally off the leash; could go where you wanted, how you wanted. Unsupervised,on your own; an adult – or something close to it, if only for a little while. Burnouts, beer – freedom. When we were out, we were no longer under anyone’s thumb.

Wasn’t it “dangerous”? Potentially, sure.

But life is to be lived – and learned from. To be restrained a priori from experiencing life, learning to exercise judgment and initiative – to earn wisdom from one’s mistakes – is to be kept in a kind of perpetual childhood state. Which implies, when you think about it, perpetual parenting.

No wonder a record high percentage of today’s teenagers and young twentysomethings don’t even want a driver’s license. I suspect a growing number of adults will be turning theirs in, too.
 
There's more to the police state than evil cops shooting unarmed teens. Jackboots come in all shapes and sizes..

“Parental” Car Controls…
by eric • April 6, 2015

It’s being touted as “parental control” technology – a way for worried parents to keep tabs on their teenaged drivers. But what’s good for the proverbial goose (the 17-year-old) is just as good for the gander (his parents). And if recent precedents – and trends – are any guide, will be exactly that.

People never seem to see this coming.

Well, here it comes… again.

Both Ford and GM are in the process of fitting their latest models with technology that enables Mom or and Dad to track son and daughter’s movements, as well as how they move – and how fast they’re allowed to move. The car not only narcs them out, it supervises them in real time, limiting how fast they can drive, whether they’ve been wearing their saaaaaaaaafety belts and even how loud they’re allowed to crank the radio (Ford’s MyKey system).

GM’s system (TeenDriver) even spits out telemetry – a downloadable log of how fast the car was driven, how “aggressively” the driver accelerated (and braked) for the delectation (and, one assumes, discipline) of the parental units.

Even better, it detects – and record and transmits – “events” such as the engagement of the (increasingly de facto standard equipment in more and more new cars) “active” safety systems, such as Forward Collision Warning. Which – if you’ve had the chance to drive a new car so equipped – is so myopically and old lady-ish programmed that it become hysterical (flashing lights, loud buzzers) if you do not begin to brake frantically at least one astronomical unit prior to actually coming within physical range of (as an example) a car ahead of you turning off the road. Who will be long gone and off the road by the time you get there.

I am not exaggerating. Try a new car so equipped yourself and see.
There is more such good stuff on deck, too.

Some of it is already here – and may be in the car you’ve got right now.

How about Lane Departure Warning? Which hits you with annoying (and yep, potentially distracting) beeps whenever the system thinks you’ve wandered into the opposing lane, via cameras that – supposedly – read and recognize the yellow and white lines painted on the road. Problem is, these systems aren’t as smart as advertised – and will beep just as annoyingly (and distractingly) when you make a perfectly legal pass or turn-off the road, which often entails entails crossing over a painted line.

I’ve also discovered that many new cars – which all have “drive by wire” controls which put the engine and transmission completely under the sway of the computer rather than you – will force-engage Park or Neutral if you try backing the car up with the door open (as to rely on your own eyes rather than the fish-eyed view of the now-mandatory back-up camera. Instead of being able to park right up against the garage door, you are forced to park a foot away.

Because safety.

Who out there can see the dots? Or maybe connect them?

One such is the real-time monitoring of the parental units by the insurance mafia, which I’ve written about several times previously. Progressive Insurance (see here) has been the chief pusher of this, but has been stymied – so far – by the fact that it requires the “client” (who is in much the same position as a “customer” of the DMV’s) to opt in. People may not have much choice about buying insurance, but they still have the option of choosing not to plug in the little tattler Progressive (and the other insurance “families”) really, really, want to make us all plug into our car’s OBD diagnostic port – so that every instance of what they define as “unsafe” driving will be used as the basis for jacking up the rates we have no real choice but to pay. (Even if we have never so much as scuffed a fender over decades of driving, it must be added.)

Keep in mind that this entails much more than dunning us for mere “speeding” – that is, driving faster than almost uniformly ridiculous posted maximums that everyone – even cops charged with enforcing them – ignores (like the Prohibition idiocy of the 1920s) without the sky falling down. If you accelerate quickly to merge with traffic or pass a dawdler – that will be taken as evidence of “aggressive” driving (rather than the safe/skillful driving it actually is).

And forget about spirited driving. This includes not only driving at a faster-than-Cloverific pace (see here for more on that) but also such things as attempting to make it up your driveway after a snowstorm. The traction control/ABS will register “wheel slip” as you use throttle and momentum to ascend the grade – which will be taken as indicative of an “aggressive event” and – ding! – up go your premiums. Execute a necessary evasive maneuver, such as swerving to avoid a deer or a Clover that just pulled out in front of you…accelerating (or braking) rapidly for the same purposes… anything that triggers an ABS or TCS “event” – and … ding!

Or rather, ka-ching!

Anything other than the most passive, slow-motion, herd-style “driving” – if it can be called that – is what they’re after. They want to extirpate initiative, drown any impulse to ever do anything other than get in line and – mooooo! – follow the bumper of the car ahead to wherever you’re headed.

And here’s the thing about systems like MyKey and TeenDriver: You will not be able to opt out.

MyKey is already standard in all new Fords. TeenDriver will be standard in “select” new GM vehicles, beginning with the 2016 Malibu. If you doubt this will be expanded to include all GM vehicles, god bless your innocence.

Hyundai-Kia includes “geo fencing” as part of the technology suite built into all its new cars. It does what it sounds like it does. It imposes an electronically limited radius of action; if the teen – and soon, perhaps, you – drive beyond that radius… well, don’t you want to be kept safe?

If there’s any upside to being middle aged today, it’s that it was so much better to have been a teenager yesterday.When driving meant freedom – the first real taste of it in a typical young person’s life. You got in the car and you were finally off the leash; could go where you wanted, how you wanted. Unsupervised,on your own; an adult – or something close to it, if only for a little while. Burnouts, beer – freedom. When we were out, we were no longer under anyone’s thumb.

Wasn’t it “dangerous”? Potentially, sure.

But life is to be lived – and learned from. To be restrained a priori from experiencing life, learning to exercise judgment and initiative – to earn wisdom from one’s mistakes – is to be kept in a kind of perpetual childhood state. Which implies, when you think about it, perpetual parenting.

No wonder a record high percentage of today’s teenagers and young twentysomethings don’t even want a driver’s license. I suspect a growing number of adults will be turning theirs in, too.
Oh believe me within 10 years the government will be able to not only track your movements but they'll be able to disable your car if they want. If that was part of your post Flesner I'm sorry I'm at work and couldn't read it all .
 
I had the chance to use one of the things you plug in from progressive , was told I would save up to 25 percent on my insurance if i used it for six weeks. Worst thing ever. Every time you stepped on the brake more than slightly, every time you took a corner at more than 2 miles per hour, every time you sped up any more then very very gradually, it would make its annoying freaking beep and count off on you. Then at the end, no discount. Bullshit. And now i see that esurance has there own little plug in now. Refuse these devices, people!
 
I had the chance to use one of the things you plug in from progressive , was told I would save up to 25 percent on my insurance if i used it for six weeks. Worst thing ever. Every time you stepped on the brake more than slightly, every time you took a corner at more than 2 miles per hour, every time you sped up any more then very very gradually, it would make its annoying freaking beep and count off on you. Then at the end, no discount. Bullshit. And now i see that esurance has there own little plug in now. Refuse these devices, people!
I wonder how much those things are slowing down traffic.
 
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