Poll: Your Favorite TEST

[Shockrock3]

Cypionate is an 8 Carbon ester. Enanthate is a 7 Carbon ester. Therefore, 100 mg of Enanthate has a tiny bit more pure test than 100 mg of cypionate.

On a Practical level, I would bet $25,000 of my own money that you would not see a statistically significant difference in gains between those two esters.

dumbbellpress Dallas Cowboys - America's Team.

The "feeling" is alot different with me. No matter what Enanthate I've used my muscles, etc. feel "blah" if that makes any sense. Strength doesn't really increase. BUT..when I use Cyp I feel jacked all the time, pumped, f'in strong, intense, etc. I know I'm not crazy. I had this discussion with alot of guys months ago and a vast majority of them loved Cyp better. To each his own I guess.

As far as tests go well Patsfan shares my views...Testex Elmu is sick, sick stuff. Hardly any human grade Cyp out there and this is the best.

Shock

 

[ItalianSavageBeast]

A good test would probably be the Testexx by Roschmann labs (U.S. gear)

150mg testosterone cypionate / 150mg testosterone enenthate blend - 300 total

There is also a new blend out ...

Profast (100mg testosterone propienate / 200mg testosterone enenthate)

GOOD SHIT!

 

[manfreakca]

Whos got the elmu testexx???

 

[PUMPED]

zencall enanthate,awesome gains

jelfa, omnas painful but incredible gains

then QV enathate..even though dirty as hell worked pisser

 

[grisb81]

man I like cyp better also it seems that it gives me better pump as well as look without all of the bloat

 

[FearMy6Pak]

RSOC Dry test (200mgs of Cyp, 50mgs of Prop and .67mgs of Adex per ML!!)

TEST = TEST when it all comes down to it

 

[dumbbellpress]

Anyone that claims "well I get better gains from Cypionate than Enanthate" is very very wrong. Not even open to debate you are WWRROONNGG.

As long as you are comparing apples to apples....

The molecular weights of the most common Testosterones are:
Test suspension (unesterfied)=288
Test propionate=344 so Prop is 83.72% pure test
Test enanthate=400 so Enan is 72.00% pure test
Test cypionate=412 so Cypionate is 69.90% pure test.

So: (.8372)(Propmg) = (.72)(Enanmg)

Take 200mg/cc Prop
200mg/cc Prop = 232.6mg/cc Enan
100mg/cc Prop = 116.3mg/cc Enan

So let's compare running a 12 week cycle of Enanthate to a 12 week cycle of Cypionate.

(.7200)(Enan mg) = (.6990)(Cypionate mg)

let's say you want to run Enanthate at 1000mg/week.
(.7200)(1000mg Enan) = (.6990)(Xmg Cypionate)

1000mg of Enanthate contains the same amount of pure test as 1030.0 mg of Cypionate.

Therefore, and DON'T ARGUE WITH ME BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IT IS!!!....
If you run 1000 mg of Enanthate per week this is EXACTLY EQUAL to running 1030.0 mg of Cypionate per week (PROVIDED THEY ARE BOTH ACCURATELY DOSED).

As my good brother Einstein has already told you in this thread, TEST IS TEST!! Say that one more time......TEST IS TEST!!!

There is not a snowball's chance in hell that there will be a statistically significant difference in gains between running 1000mg/week of Enanthate and
1030.0 mg/ week of Cypionate - (PROVIDED THEY ARE BOTH ACCURATELY DOSED!! If they are underdosed or overdosed then all bets are off and of course there very easily good be differences in gains realized). Further, there is not a snowball's chance in hell there will be a statistically significant difference in gains between running 1000mg of Enathate per week and 1000mg of Cypionate per week. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS SO DON"T ARGUE WITH ME. YOU ARE WRONG. EINSTEIN AND I ARE RIGHT, PERIOD.

The only explanation that is even possible that would explain why all these guys are saying "Cypionate is better than enanthate. It gives me more of a kick and I get bigger and stronger with it" is that the Cypionate they used was accurately dosed whereas the Enanthate they used was underdosed. FINISHED. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. NOT OPEN TO DEBATE OR INTERPRETATION. That is the ONLY explanation possible as to why all these guys are saying they like Cypionate better than Enanthate.

dumbbellpress Dallas Cowboys - America's Team.

 

[dumbbellpress]

This topic has been around ever since I joined Meso in April of 2001.

Once again...................Test is Test....................Test is Test....................Test is Test....................Test is Test..................Test is Test..............Test is Test................Test is Test................Test is Test...

Provided you are injecting at each ester's optimal frequency (ie Prop ED injections) (Sustanon atleast EOD injections and preferably ED injections) (Cyp and Enan twice weekly injections) and you are injecting equivalent amounts of PURE TEST ie 1000mg of Enanthate is equal to 1030.0 mg of Cypionate........then AGAIN TEST IS TEST IS TEST IS TEST IS TEST..........

There is no difference between ANY of the esters!!!!!!!!! That is the way it is, PERIOD. No more bullshit about one ester being any better than any other ester. They are the same. PERIOD! STOP THE BULLSHIT NOW!!

dumbbellpress Dallas Cowboys - America's Team.

 

[db2]

Golden Triangle is my current favorite.
Next cycle will be trying Roschmann Testex blend.

 

[scrappy]

I like RSOC's blends... I wish he'd make shorter esters again.
I love short ester gear. Must be the control freak in me

 

[crewboss]

I like RSOC's blends... I wish he'd make shorter esters again.
I love short ester gear. Must be the control freak in me

Brazilian Organon Sus. tastey.

 

[Data1000]

Anyone like Test from underground labs as well as foreign products or Vet products?

 

[JoeMoore]

Any human grade test for me. Tried the QV stuff and gotta say that it doesn't even compare. Still iffy on the underground gear out there. I'm always betting that these guys are overdosing their stuff to get good responses out of them. I'd hate to be taking in 1000mg of test/week when i think im only taking in 700.

 

[DrMCM]

Hey Dumbellpress, do you think there is any diff between cyp and enan???
Good point.

 

[grisb81]

I like cypionate better it gives me a better pump. lol, just messing with dumbellpress or whatever the hell his name. You need to settle down compadre, everyone has a favorite and there is nothing wrong with expressing it here on the board. I am so proud of you for doing your homework and coming up with all of the wonderful statistics.

Cypionate and Enanthate are pretty much the same thing but they react different in the body, they are different esters, and named different. And that is that .

"No more bullshit about one ester being any better than any other ester. They are the same. PERIOD! STOP THE BULLSHIT NOW!!" funny shit

 

[roger]

My favorite is high dose enanthate,at about 2000mg per week

 

[jagers]

Hey guys,

With all the awsome sources on this board and all the different brands and esters of test out there now what is your favorite Test product available today.

Im just interested in my meso bro's input because I have just gotten my next cycle together.....well, everything minus the test. Im debating between Organon (nile) sust, or just some straight Prop. This will be my 10th cycle to date in just over 5 years.

Thanks guys.

Peace...kelly

cypiotest 250 by denkall period best test on market right know
later
jagers

 

[liftheavy54]

I like enanthate powder as the melting point is low and that makes it easy to make my own.

 

[pumppumppuk]

favorite test

Anything Except A Math Test, I Alwats Fail Those.




Ppp

 

[Captain Planet]

Test Prop, far and away. Much less bloat than the longer esters. The only problem is A) it costs more to do a cycle with since you need more of it and B) the ED or EOD injections are annonying, they are only fun the first couple weeks IMO, once the initial rush is gone you'll wish you didn't have to inject as much.