Polyethylene glycol (PEG) used as a suspension vehicle?

[Bigbicep]

Sup meso! Just got a question… Is polyethylene glycol used as a suspension vehicle for raw orals? Such as SERMs and oral anabolics?

 

[baxter0312]

"Propylene glycol (C3H8O2) occurs as a clear, colorless, viscous, practically odorless liquid with a sweet taste. It has a specific gravity of 1.038 g/mL and is miscible with acetone, 95% ethanol, glycerin, and water. Propylene glycol is used as a humectant in topicals (~15% concentration), as a preservative in solutions (15%-30% concentration), and as a solvent or cosolvent in aerosols (10%-30% concentration), oral solutions (10%-25% concentration), parenterals (10%-60% concentration), and topicals (5%-80% concentration)."

 

[baxter0312]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0378517315303628

Sorry misread that

 

[Bigbicep]

Anyone used polyethylene glycol yet as a suspension vehicle? Iv just ordered some raws and I got no access to humco. It’s too expensive in Australia…

 

[bruhbroboi]

Anyone used polyethylene glycol yet as a suspension vehicle? Iv just ordered some raws and I got no access to humco. It’s too expensive in Australia…

From what Ive read yes with some high proof alcohol, look through the forum for recipes and you should find them pretty easy. i believe you will end up with a solution though and not a suspension, seems some people use Oraplus and alcohol as a suspension and just shake before use. Im sure someone more experienced can comment though!

 

[Bigbicep]

I have successfully brewed multiple raw oral powders into a solution using PEG 300 ( polyethylene glycol ) alone. Using boiling water on a stove to melt the raws into the PEG. I did not use any alcohol because they are small batches and not planning on keeping them for long. So yes to anyone else who comes across this thread looking for info about this. It does work very well

 

[sushak]

I have successfully brewed multiple raw oral powders into a solution using PEG 300 ( polyethylene glycol ) alone. Using boiling water on a stove to melt the raws into the PEG. I did not use any alcohol because they are small batches and not planning on keeping them for long. So yes to anyone else who comes across this thread looking for info about this. It does work very well

Have you had success with telmisartan? I am reading lots of conflicting information on this forum about proper suspension of it due to ph concerns.

 

[Bigbicep]

Have you had success with telmisartan? I am reading lots of conflicting information on this forum about proper suspension of it due to ph concerns.

No.. I do have telmisartan powder tho but not yet tried.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Anyone used polyethylene glycol yet as a suspension vehicle? Iv just ordered some raws and I got no access to humco. It’s too expensive in Australia…

From what Ive read yes with some high proof alcohol, look through the forum for recipes and you should find them pretty easy. i believe you will end up with a solution though and not a suspension, seems some people use Oraplus and alcohol as a suspension and just shake before use. Im sure someone more experienced can comment though!

I haven't used it but seen others mention 70/30 EverclearG. Not sure if it works for everything (probably not) but at least it's a starting point to try.

 

[Bigbicep]

I haven't used it but seen others mention 70/30 EverclearG. Not sure if it works for everything (probably not) but at least it's a starting point to try.

Yea this is right. I used 100% PEG on dbol and it split into a half solution half suspension but the alcohol fixed that

 

[bigead]

Yes I have been using since 2015 in that 70/30 ratio for most of my oral raws

 

[Plato]

I have successfully brewed multiple raw oral powders into a solution using PEG 300 ( polyethylene glycol ) alone. Using boiling water on a stove to melt the raws into the PEG. I did not use any alcohol because they are small batches and not planning on keeping them for long. So yes to anyone else who comes across this thread looking for info about this. It does work very well

I'm looking to liquify nolvadex, clomid and anvar to a suspension. I found some recipes for them with PEG300 for anavar and PEG600 for nolvadex and clomid, plus proof alcohol for them all. Do you know if I can use PEG300 to all of them and it stil be suspended? I have trouble getting my hands on PEG600.

 

[Bigbicep]

I'm looking to liquify nolvadex, clomid and anvar to a suspension. I found some recipes for them with PEG300 for anavar and PEG600 for nolvadex and clomid, plus proof alcohol for them all. Do you know if I can use PEG300 to all of them and it stil be suspended? I have trouble getting my hands on PEG600.

I use PEG300. By itself it may crash sort of and become a half solution and suspension type of thing still very usable. That’s what happened when I made dbol 50mg/ml. I found that desolving in alcohol then topping up with PEG works best as keeping it a solution.

 

[Plato]

I use PEG300. By itself it may crash sort of and become a half solution and suspension type of thing still very usable. That’s what happened when I made dbol 50mg/ml. I found that desolving in alcohol then topping up with PEG works best as keeping it a solution.

Have you made liquid clomid and nolvadex? And if so what is your experience with it?

I'm thinking of using PEG400 instead of 600 as I can get my hands on it.

 

[Bigbicep]

No I haven’t but I have some. Alcohol/PEG300 solution asin clomid and nolva. The clomid after a while become white and mushy so needs to be heated if left alone for too long.