Populist speaker 'Charlie Kirk' is dead --- Murdered by assassin in Idaho while giving a speech !

I triggered you again, you're still talking? Not my fault kamala lost, I mean, she did blow Willie brown, would we want the first African American female president to be known for blowing a man to get a promotion? Trump saved you woke leftists from that.
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Seppos is just rhyming slang for yank. No sentiment - I love yanks even if they do see a bit... Extreme to me!

Cant say I know of liberals and Marxists working together. Liberalism, atleast in the European tradition, isn't a revolutionary politics - it's very much centrist. Things like private property and free markets but universal healthcare and employment protections.
Language evolves regionally. Much has changed since the liberalism of the American and French Revolution. During the New Deal era, President Franklin D. Roosevelt adopted the term "liberal" to describe his philosophy of using government intervention to solve social problems, positioning it between radical socialism and conservatism. This "modern liberalism," or "social liberalism," became synonymous with the left-leaning, pro-government activism that characterizes the current Democratic Party. So when Americans say liberal they are referring to modern left wing or progressive politics.
 
As to undocumented aliens being a drain on taxpayers, it's simply not true. They work. They pay Social Security, often with another person's Social Security card.

^ This blanket statement you made is just as false as the one from the person you're debating. Approximately only half of illegals are known to be paying income taxes. There are plenty of illegals I see and know of who are getting paid under the table daily.

The US population grew by more than twenty-two million (approximately) in just ten years (2015-2025). Within that period it is estimated that fifteen million of those people are illegals now living in the US. There are more illegals entering the country than US Americans having actual births on American soil. Meaning in just ten years 68% of America's population growth rate is from illegals. This isn't sustainable. Many of the illegals that come here don't even have a completed elementary school education let alone a high school diploma.

I'm not here to call anyone names or make this a left wing or right wing agenda. But think about how in the next twenty years if America's population grew by nearly 70% consisting of illegals where the overwhelming majority of them have no skills, no education and no desire to assimilate into American culture?
 
We were told they would be arresting gang members. Where’s all that White House press?? If there were any they would be promoting it

What we’ve seen are mostly illegal immigrants. Yep, they’re illegal. And unfortunately they filled huge labor gaps.

One could argue that they bring the labor wage pool down. I would agree, but what’s disappointing is that no one wants those jobs even with a 15% increase.

Who would? Get low paying jobs that get you out of a poverty level where you lose all medical assistance? Thats financially stupid. Better to stay below that income threshold and get health coverage by Medicaid

I think we’d all agree that everyone in the US isn’t able to get a $50k job with health coverage.
 
Getting back to the topic about Charlie Kirk, what upset me even more than viewing videos of a man taking a bullet to the throat was seeing social media posts of people laughing and carrying on about how he got what he deserved. We've now reached a point where we celebrate and mock a person's murder simply because he doesn't align with our political leanings. Unbelievable.
 
There were not a lot of people laughing at an assassination. No one celebrated. This is the problem. Even if there was some twisted person event where someone yelled “good riddance” doesn’t make it a statistically significant trend. Certainly not the way you present it as such
 
You can't find the videos on Tiktok because many of them were taken down. Here's a post from npr.org covering the topic: https://www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5538476/charlie-kirk-jobs-target-social-media-critics-resign

That NPR story only covers the people who lost their jobs for what they did. But it doesn't cover the videos of people I saw mocking his death and literally laughing about it. One AI video I saw was of a memorial statue/water fountain of Kirk's bust with a hole in his neck where water was shooting from and landing into a reservoir. It looked like this but was a different one:

Tastelessness
 
Anyone that was laughing was incredibly isolated and statistically insignificant. Doesn’t matter what was said with 12 people.

So the reason we’re not finding any video documentation of such events isn’t because of censorship.
 
Anyone that was laughing was incredibly isolated and statistically insignificant. Doesn’t matter what was said with 12 people.

So the reason we’re not finding any video documentation of such events isn’t because of censorship.
Are you living under a rock? Nearly every progressive I know were posting on social media “oh well live by the sword die by the sword”. Here’s a compilation. There are thousands of these videos dude:
View: https://youtu.be/bzZjEtDkfqs?si=SKDFwWo-yK320-H9
 
Oh- “live by the sword and die by the sword” is certainly not mocking and laughing. I myself said FAFO.

“Nearly every progressive..”. That’s maybe a stretch. That’s part of the problem here. Hyperbole becomes fact real quick

And even still, even if you had some few actually laugh because they’re insensitive assholes, so what? This sort of behavior is not characteristic of the left. Just saying. Mocking and laughing at assassinations isn’t cool at a leftist party. Just saying. Today otherwise is to be projecting something that just doesn’t exist (beyond a few assholes)
 
^ This blanket statement you made is just as false as the one from the person you're debating. Approximately only half of illegals are known to be paying income taxes. There are plenty of illegals I see and know of who are getting paid under the table daily.

The US population grew by more than twenty-two million (approximately) in just ten years (2015-2025). Within that period it is estimated that fifteen million of those people are illegals now living in the US. There are more illegals entering the country than US Americans having actual births on American soil. Meaning in just ten years 68% of America's population growth rate is from illegals. This isn't sustainable. Many of the illegals that come here don't even have a completed elementary school education let alone a high school diploma.

I'm not here to call anyone names or make this a left wing or right wing agenda. But think about how in the next twenty years if America's population grew by nearly 70% consisting of illegals where the overwhelming majority of them have no skills, no education and no desire to assimilate into American culture?
You really believe 15 million illegal immigrants came into the us in 10 years?:D:D Try 30 yrs!!

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There were not a lot of people laughing at an assassination. No one celebrated. This is the problem. Even if there was some twisted person event where someone yelled “good riddance” doesn’t make it a statistically significant trend. Certainly not the way you present it as such
IMO, I don't care that some people celebrated. Shitty people do shitty things. It's very American to ragebait with the most insensitive and obscene comments when stuff like charlie happens. I saw parents of murdered kids mocked and called actors and Fakers. I've seen Jokes about long dead civil right activists with funny but despicable punchlines. The people putting up such like to call it "free speech".
What happened this time was that someone on the other side of the political aisle got killed and it hurt. Pretty sure if it happened to some much maligned person like AOC there would be jokes all round that would be defended with "free speech".
It's what some Americans do. Sorry of Kirk was some people's awakening to how silly people can be but It's not the first and it won't be the last.
They can shout leftist/ rightist till their throats are sore. Just look up The last names of the protesters that were shot in Minneapolis. You will find memes and jokes galore.
Then aggrieved folks will come here and rage about Kirk, but when caught mocking people who don't share the same political beliefs they run and hide under "politicicians want to divide us. It's 2 wings of the same bird" bla bla bla.
Regarding the Kirk mock posts, The latter statement is true though. It's two wings (two repulsive behaviors) of the same American psyche bird.
 
Those of you who are minimizing how the radical Left responds to these types of situations either have no first-hand experience or are shills. I lived in an area of the US that was crawling with radical leftists. They are FUCKING garbage and have no common sense or social skills. They're always angry and justify their violent tendencies in the name of their political causes. I was in one of the cities where people stupidly tore up and set fire to their own neighborhoods because of some professional felon like George Floyd who was killed. Black men are dying at the hands of other black men and noone bats an eye. One police officer kills a man accidentally and cities all around the US were in complete chaos. I lived three blocks away from a neighborhood takeover that resulted in several more people needlessly losing their lives and crimes like sexual assault, grand larceny and arson that went unchecked.

These are the same people that will celebrate people on the right being killed. I moved away from that area shortly after the George Floyd fiasco. They way they preach their anti-white rhetoric and are always sermonizing on how to act according to their woke ways and their hatred of men. The women are miserable and nasty. The whole "Fuck the evil white patriarchy!" attitude is rampant. You couldn't pay me to step foot in that city again.
 
Those of you who are minimizing how the radical Left responds to these types of situations either have no first-hand experience or are shills. I lived in an area of the US that was crawling with radical leftists. They are FUCKING garbage and have no common sense or social skills. They're always angry and justify their violent tendencies in the name of their political causes. I was in one of the cities where people stupidly tore up and set fire to their own neighborhoods because of some professional felon like George Floyd who was killed. Black men are dying at the hands of other black men and noone bats an eye. One police officer kills a man accidentally and cities all around the US were in complete chaos. I lived three blocks away from a neighborhood takeover that resulted in several more people needlessly losing their lives and crimes like sexual assault, grand larceny and arson that went unchecked.

These are the same people that will celebrate people on the right being killed. I moved away from that area shortly after the George Floyd fiasco. They way they preach their anti-white rhetoric and are always sermonizing on how to act according to their woke ways and their hatred of men. The women are miserable and nasty. The whole "Fuck the evil white patriarchy!" attitude is rampant. You couldn't pay me to step foot in that city again.
LoL. "Radical Leftist"
When black men die at the hands of other black men do you bat an eye? You're probably somewhere talking smack about 'hood like behaviour' or "fafo" or 'Ghetto this and that' and some other bullshit. People do community walks all the time to protest gang violence. People hold candle light Vigils for fallen folks. People roast their aldermen, and when no solutions come, they just keep a stern face, buckle-up, accept their fate and get on with life. You don't really care about them. It's just a counter argument for you. God forbid people protest law enforcement trying to get away with extrajudicial killings and you get your panties in a twist.
You're getting yourself worked up over made up scenarios. Take a breather bro... and get in line. There are plenty other aggrieved classes/groups in the USA waiting for folks to address their concerns.
You don't want me to start talking about my experiences here courtesy of Hypocritical conservatives claiming to be God fearing christians, and superficially welcoming progressive minded folks nursing dubious intent.

My experience(s) won't even be unique. Everyone has a story. You'll get many more as you grow older
 
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