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Re: Porn induced erectile dysfunction
No, Really. Its good.
U See, there is no hot skank in your face TRYING TO MAKE YOU WRECK YOU CAR. So its all good.
The REAL PROBLEM is that once you get lost in that VISION. You may not make it back. Trooper told a friend of mine. 99.9 % of people that doze in the car become crosses. Then went on to elaborate that 110% of folks with Playboy Radio scrape a RIM,, At least./...[
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No, Really. Its good.
U See, there is no hot skank in your face TRYING TO MAKE YOU WRECK YOU CAR. So its all good.
The REAL PROBLEM is that once you get lost in that VISION. You may not make it back. Trooper told a friend of mine. 99.9 % of people that doze in the car become crosses. Then went on to elaborate that 110% of folks with Playboy Radio scrape a RIM,, At least./...[
)]That feels inadvisable.
GirlyMan
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Re: Porn induced erectile dysfunction
I'm not following. Still feels inadvisable.
No, Really. Its good.
U See, there is no hot skank in your face TRYING TO MAKE YOU WRECK YOU CAR. So its all good.
The REAL PROBLEM is that once you get lost in that VISION. You may not make it back. Trooper told a friend of mine. 99.9 % of people that doze in the car become crosses. Then went on to elaborate that 110% of folks with Playboy Radio scrape a RIM,, At least./...[
I'm not following. Still feels inadvisable.
Re: Porn induced erectile dysfunction
The Sunny Side of Smut
For most people, pornography use has no negative effects—and it may even deter sexual violence
The Sunny Side of Smut: Scientific American
The Sunny Side of Smut
For most people, pornography use has no negative effects—and it may even deter sexual violence
The Sunny Side of Smut: Scientific American
GirlyMan
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Re: Porn induced erectile dysfunction
I knew that shit wasn't bad for me. Now I've got some evidence it's good for me. Off to a different site.
I knew that shit wasn't bad for me. Now I've got some evidence it's good for me. Off to a different site.
foreveryoung
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Re: Porn induced erectile dysfunction
use it or lose it, the more you think about sex and use your equipment is better
use it or lose it, the more you think about sex and use your equipment is better
radcon
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YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
In light all the talk on this board regarding erectile dysfunction - this topic may be a pertinent component/differential diagnosis for this issue.
I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade but if porn was causing your erectile dysfunction you'd probably be pretty pissed about it and want to know.
There's a lot on the site so here's a good place to start to get an overview: http://yourbrainonporn.com/node/79 - The Ted Talks video is also a good place to start.
This info was kind of a wake up call for me and will possibly help you understand some things about yourself that you may be confused about - it did for me.
In light all the talk on this board regarding erectile dysfunction - this topic may be a pertinent component/differential diagnosis for this issue.
I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade but if porn was causing your erectile dysfunction you'd probably be pretty pissed about it and want to know.
There's a lot on the site so here's a good place to start to get an overview: http://yourbrainonporn.com/node/79 - The Ted Talks video is also a good place to start.
This info was kind of a wake up call for me and will possibly help you understand some things about yourself that you may be confused about - it did for me.
Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
I have the utmost respect for Ted Talks. I even have their channel on Roku but also have had Sugar DVD, which is porn, for a few years now. Its a nice way to start the morning. My wife actully likes some of it especially the big cocks.
I dont see where it has damaged either of us. I guess this maybe isnt typicial. Some certainly claim that porn has fucked them up but I suspect that those would have found another way if porn wasnt availiable.
BTW, xnxxx.com has every thing you could ever imagine and then some. Often in HD.
Anyone tried the 3D glasses with 3D capable plasma tv? :drooling:
I have the utmost respect for Ted Talks. I even have their channel on Roku but also have had Sugar DVD, which is porn, for a few years now. Its a nice way to start the morning. My wife actully likes some of it especially the big cocks.
I dont see where it has damaged either of us. I guess this maybe isnt typicial. Some certainly claim that porn has fucked them up but I suspect that those would have found another way if porn wasnt availiable.
BTW, xnxxx.com has every thing you could ever imagine and then some. Often in HD.
Anyone tried the 3D glasses with 3D capable plasma tv? :drooling:
pittbox
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Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
Is that link not working?
Is that link not working?
radcon
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Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
Haha! I like how you have provided the addicts with the best resources for their addiction as well. This thread could be a one stop shop for your porn needs, whether that's dealing with addiction or needing to find some better videos.
I think I've kind of experienced both sides - as far as benefiting from porn in some ways but also feeling like it has been detrimental at times.
One element that gets talked about on the site is younger guys who have been exposed to a lot of porn before much real world sexual experience. Some people also find their porn interests not matching fully with their sexual preference. I also personally find understanding addiction to be interesting.
I have the utmost respect for Ted Talks. I even have their channel on Roku but also have had Sugar DVD, which is porn, for a few years now. Its a nice way to start the morning. My wife actully likes some of it especially the big cocks.
I dont see where it has damaged either of us. I guess this maybe isnt typicial. Some certainly claim that porn has fucked them up but I suspect that those would have found another way if porn wasnt availiable.
BTW, xnxxx.com has every thing you could ever imagine and then some. Often in HD.
Anyone tried the 3D glasses with 3D capable plasma tv? :drooling:
Haha! I like how you have provided the addicts with the best resources for their addiction as well. This thread could be a one stop shop for your porn needs, whether that's dealing with addiction or needing to find some better videos.
I think I've kind of experienced both sides - as far as benefiting from porn in some ways but also feeling like it has been detrimental at times.
One element that gets talked about on the site is younger guys who have been exposed to a lot of porn before much real world sexual experience. Some people also find their porn interests not matching fully with their sexual preference. I also personally find understanding addiction to be interesting.
Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
This crap is overgeneralized.
If you read the "fine print," all of the stories and anecdotes are about freaks that discover they are freaks by watching increasingly graphic porn. The typical story goes like this: Innocent man/boy jerks off about nude models for a few years, then escalates to big fake tits, then to graphic gangbangs, then to femdom, then to pissing and shitting, then to BDSM, etc. Eventually, they can't seem to get a boner while fucking their girlfriend or wife and so they stick to the weird fucking porn. No surprises here.
A few counter arguments:
1) Why do married men or men with girlfriends watch porn? Probably because they get bored with fucking the same person over and over for years. If you're using desensitization as your argument against porn, you have to concede that it's also an argument against monogamy. Try jerking off about one and only one nude model for a few years.
2) Men seek pornography because vanilla sex can and does get boring to many men. They don't always go for porn. Some pay hookers that are willing to do what the men want to experience. Women can get just as bored. If you believe what women's magazines say, fantasizing during sex about weird scenarios, strangers, or men other than one's husband/boyfriend is quite common.
3) Most men, like idmd stated, don't have any trouble mixing pornography with real sex. It's safe to say that nearly all men watch porn.
4) If you like pissing and shitting and diapers and dog shit and gangbangs, then you need to find a partner that does as well. Chances are, you can keep your porn and not have any sexual issues with your mate!
This crap is overgeneralized.
If you read the "fine print," all of the stories and anecdotes are about freaks that discover they are freaks by watching increasingly graphic porn. The typical story goes like this: Innocent man/boy jerks off about nude models for a few years, then escalates to big fake tits, then to graphic gangbangs, then to femdom, then to pissing and shitting, then to BDSM, etc. Eventually, they can't seem to get a boner while fucking their girlfriend or wife and so they stick to the weird fucking porn. No surprises here.
A few counter arguments:
1) Why do married men or men with girlfriends watch porn? Probably because they get bored with fucking the same person over and over for years. If you're using desensitization as your argument against porn, you have to concede that it's also an argument against monogamy. Try jerking off about one and only one nude model for a few years.
2) Men seek pornography because vanilla sex can and does get boring to many men. They don't always go for porn. Some pay hookers that are willing to do what the men want to experience. Women can get just as bored. If you believe what women's magazines say, fantasizing during sex about weird scenarios, strangers, or men other than one's husband/boyfriend is quite common.
3) Most men, like idmd stated, don't have any trouble mixing pornography with real sex. It's safe to say that nearly all men watch porn.
4) If you like pissing and shitting and diapers and dog shit and gangbangs, then you need to find a partner that does as well. Chances are, you can keep your porn and not have any sexual issues with your mate!
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foreveryoung
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Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
"use it or lose it"
"use it or lose it"
TheHamburglar
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Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
I watch porn while I have sex.... I do what I want.
I watch porn while I have sex.... I do what I want.
Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
...there's a new movie being released by Joseph Gordon-Levitt that touches on this subject ==> Don Jon
The story line ==> A New Jersey guy dedicated to his family, friends, and church, develops unrealistic expectations from watching porn and works to find happiness and intimacy with his potential true love.
...there's a new movie being released by Joseph Gordon-Levitt that touches on this subject ==> Don Jon
The story line ==> A New Jersey guy dedicated to his family, friends, and church, develops unrealistic expectations from watching porn and works to find happiness and intimacy with his potential true love.
radcon
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Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
There is certainly some over-generalizing and I don't disagree with your counter-arguments. This isn't a black and white case of either porn is good or porn is bad. Some people can enjoy recreational drug use and live a productive fulfilling life, others can't. This isn't about wrong or right or judging people.
I do think the subject does offer an insight into addiction and the actions of dopamine seeking behavior. It's not uncommon for people to watch porn and not even be particularly horny; possibly even masturbating to orgasm without ever reaching full erection. In this kind of situation people think that they want to watch porn due to their high sex-drive. In reality this is more indicative of a dopamine seeking addiction behavior than actual sex-drive behavior. You get that temporary dopamine high but the low afterwards can leave people feeling worse.
If a regular porn user was concerned about a lack of morning erections, I would say, go 2-3 weeks (maybe even just 1 week) without porn exposure and masturbation and see what happens. What can it hurt? This is a super cheap and easy way to rule this in or out as a differential diagnosis. This can also reacquaint a person with feeling the difference between feelings of horniness and feelings of addiction. This same thing happens all the time with food as well. I've known people who very rarely experience the sensation of hunger, yet they continue to over-eat even though they don't really want to. If you ask them about it, the whole thing is often kind of a mystery to them. They don't know why they do it.
Interestingly, what often happens is that regular porn users really struggle with the idea of temporarily cutting out porn. The idea creates some nervousness and anxiety and trying to justify why it would be unnecessary to take a little hiatus. This experiment should be even more doable for people who are having fairly regular sex but it can be counter-intuitively just as difficult.
There is certainly some over-generalizing and I don't disagree with your counter-arguments. This isn't a black and white case of either porn is good or porn is bad. Some people can enjoy recreational drug use and live a productive fulfilling life, others can't. This isn't about wrong or right or judging people.
I do think the subject does offer an insight into addiction and the actions of dopamine seeking behavior. It's not uncommon for people to watch porn and not even be particularly horny; possibly even masturbating to orgasm without ever reaching full erection. In this kind of situation people think that they want to watch porn due to their high sex-drive. In reality this is more indicative of a dopamine seeking addiction behavior than actual sex-drive behavior. You get that temporary dopamine high but the low afterwards can leave people feeling worse.
If a regular porn user was concerned about a lack of morning erections, I would say, go 2-3 weeks (maybe even just 1 week) without porn exposure and masturbation and see what happens. What can it hurt? This is a super cheap and easy way to rule this in or out as a differential diagnosis. This can also reacquaint a person with feeling the difference between feelings of horniness and feelings of addiction. This same thing happens all the time with food as well. I've known people who very rarely experience the sensation of hunger, yet they continue to over-eat even though they don't really want to. If you ask them about it, the whole thing is often kind of a mystery to them. They don't know why they do it.
Interestingly, what often happens is that regular porn users really struggle with the idea of temporarily cutting out porn. The idea creates some nervousness and anxiety and trying to justify why it would be unnecessary to take a little hiatus. This experiment should be even more doable for people who are having fairly regular sex but it can be counter-intuitively just as difficult.
Re: YourBrainOnPorn.com - Erectile Dysf DDx
I tried the no fap / no porn thing for a couple weeks after reading it helped increase test (partial bro-science). The biggest change was I became aroused much easier and finished really quick during sex which wasn't necessarily a good thing.
I believe everything in moderation is okay. Also, it would be really difficult for me to delete pics of old encounters.
I tried the no fap / no porn thing for a couple weeks after reading it helped increase test (partial bro-science). The biggest change was I became aroused much easier and finished really quick during sex which wasn't necessarily a good thing.
I believe everything in moderation is okay. Also, it would be really difficult for me to delete pics of old encounters.
No Such Thing as “Pornography Addiction” - Journalists and psychologists are quick to describe someone as being a porn "addict," yet there's no strong scientific research that shows such addictions actually exists.
Slapping such labels onto the habit of frequently viewing images of a sexual nature only describes it as a form of pathology. These labels ignore the positive benefits it holds.
"Pornography addiction" was not included in the recently revised Diagnostic and Statistical Manual because of a lack of scientific data. Fewer than two in every five research articles (37 percent) about high frequency sexual behavior describe it as being an addiction. Only 27 percent (13 of 49) of articles on the subject contained actual data, while only one related psychophysiological study appeared in 2013.
The research actually found very little evidence -- if any at all -- to support some of the purported negative side effects of porn "addiction." There was no sign that use of pornography is connected to erectile dysfunction, or that it causes any changes to the brains of users.
Also, despite great furor over the effects of childhood exposure to pornography, the use of sexually explicit material explains very little of the variance in adolescents' behaviors. These are better explained and predicted by other individual and family variables.
Clinicians should be aware that people reporting "addiction" are likely to be male, have a non-heterosexual orientation, have a high libido, tend towards sensation seeking and have religious values that conflict with their sexual behavior and desires. They may be using visually stimulating images to cope with negative emotional states or decreased life satisfaction.
Ley D, Prause N, Finn P. The Emperor Has No Clothes: A Review of the “Pornography Addiction” Model. Current Sexual Health Reports 2014:1-12. The Emperor Has No Clothes: A Review of the ‘Pornography Addiction’ Model - Online First - Springer
The addiction model is rarely used to describe high-frequency use of visual sexual stimuli (VSS) in research, yet common in media and clinical practice. The theory and research behind ‘pornography addiction’ is hindered by poor experimental designs, limited methodological rigor, and lack of model specification.
The history and limitations of addiction models are reviewed, including how VSS fails to meet standards of addiction. These include how VSS use can reduce health-risk behaviors. Proposed negative effects, including erectile problems, difficulty regulating sexual feelings, and neuroadaptations are discussed as non-pathological evidence of learning.
Individuals reporting ‘addictive’ use of VSS could be better conceptualized by considering issues such as gender, sexual orientation, libido, desire for sensation, with internal and external conflicts influenced by religiosity and desire discrepancy.
Since a large, lucrative industry has promised treatments for pornography addiction despite this poor evidence, scientific psychologists are called to declare the emperor (treatment industry) has no clothes (supporting evidence). When faced with such complaints, clinicians are encouraged to address behaviors without conjuring addiction labels.
Slapping such labels onto the habit of frequently viewing images of a sexual nature only describes it as a form of pathology. These labels ignore the positive benefits it holds.
"Pornography addiction" was not included in the recently revised Diagnostic and Statistical Manual because of a lack of scientific data. Fewer than two in every five research articles (37 percent) about high frequency sexual behavior describe it as being an addiction. Only 27 percent (13 of 49) of articles on the subject contained actual data, while only one related psychophysiological study appeared in 2013.
The research actually found very little evidence -- if any at all -- to support some of the purported negative side effects of porn "addiction." There was no sign that use of pornography is connected to erectile dysfunction, or that it causes any changes to the brains of users.
Also, despite great furor over the effects of childhood exposure to pornography, the use of sexually explicit material explains very little of the variance in adolescents' behaviors. These are better explained and predicted by other individual and family variables.
Clinicians should be aware that people reporting "addiction" are likely to be male, have a non-heterosexual orientation, have a high libido, tend towards sensation seeking and have religious values that conflict with their sexual behavior and desires. They may be using visually stimulating images to cope with negative emotional states or decreased life satisfaction.
Ley D, Prause N, Finn P. The Emperor Has No Clothes: A Review of the “Pornography Addiction” Model. Current Sexual Health Reports 2014:1-12. The Emperor Has No Clothes: A Review of the ‘Pornography Addiction’ Model - Online First - Springer
The addiction model is rarely used to describe high-frequency use of visual sexual stimuli (VSS) in research, yet common in media and clinical practice. The theory and research behind ‘pornography addiction’ is hindered by poor experimental designs, limited methodological rigor, and lack of model specification.
The history and limitations of addiction models are reviewed, including how VSS fails to meet standards of addiction. These include how VSS use can reduce health-risk behaviors. Proposed negative effects, including erectile problems, difficulty regulating sexual feelings, and neuroadaptations are discussed as non-pathological evidence of learning.
Individuals reporting ‘addictive’ use of VSS could be better conceptualized by considering issues such as gender, sexual orientation, libido, desire for sensation, with internal and external conflicts influenced by religiosity and desire discrepancy.
Since a large, lucrative industry has promised treatments for pornography addiction despite this poor evidence, scientific psychologists are called to declare the emperor (treatment industry) has no clothes (supporting evidence). When faced with such complaints, clinicians are encouraged to address behaviors without conjuring addiction labels.
