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post cycle w/o Clomid?
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THL
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gunsbilat said:
Some guys have had good results with nolvadex. Depending on what you were using while on, start it around a week after your last shot at 80mg ed for a 1 week then go to 40mg/day for a couple more weeks, or until you are sure your natural test is back on line. HCG would help greatly also.
I get quite disturbed by people who are too ready to blame their actions on drugs. Sure, we all have a bad day sometimes and sure, some days on clomid you may get a little emotional, but NONE of this can even come close to how POWERFUL you can be, with a little self control. I feel many people fall into the trap of taking the easy way out and blaming everything on either alcohol, drugs, or bad genetics, instead of standing up and being honest about things.....you control yourself. Nobody else can control you, not even drugs.
What I do is whenever I feel like im losing my cool, I laugh at myself, speak really honestly to my friends and loved ones about my apparent short-temperedness and apologise for it, get over it, and move on. They'll respect you all the more for it, thats for sure!
Skywalk
What I do is whenever I feel like im losing my cool, I laugh at myself, speak really honestly to my friends and loved ones about my apparent short-temperedness and apologise for it, get over it, and move on. They'll respect you all the more for it, thats for sure!
Skywalk
Turbo1
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skywalk said:
BUMP! Nice bro
There was a bro at one of the gym's I ran years ago (I called him the Hormone Gorilla) and he used to just lose it on people while training. He would always come up to me and say, "Sorry bro it's just the juice is getting to me." and I would alwayssay, "No bro, you're just an asshole who happens to be juiced..."skywalk said:
No attack on you gunsbilat at all, but sometimes if you feel like you're going to lose it, just step back and take a "time out". Get over the inflation of aggravation and then re-approach the situation.
Best,
Dr. Phil (lol)
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THL
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Dart said:
So next time I'm on clomid and start crying at the end of Armagedon, I can't blame it on the drug??? What am I supposed to say than? I'm sorry honey, I guess I'm just getting a little too in touch with my feminine side. Oh, and do you mind if I borrow your red lacy underwear for work tomorrow? None of mine match the skirt I want to wear.
Turbo1
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THL said:
ROFLMAO....ohh shit...that was classic THL...
I am on day 3 of Clomid and i feel more relaxed...not as hot tempered at work as i usually am... I like it!! Plus i been alot nicer and sweeter to my girl which is good...I have been a dick lately(personal problems) so its a nice change....As far as the lacy underwear go...I'd go with white cotton panties bro..much more comfortable than the lace IMO
THL
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Turbo1 said:
Guys shouldn't wear white underwear bro. Especially if they're drinking cheap protein shakes and eating like an elephant. Imagine what they'd look like after a long hot day,,,,than your wife finds them when she's doing laundry. I can picture it now, your sitting down watching TV and you suddenly hear her scream at the top of her lungs, "who the fuck has been using my underwear for a shop rag!!!!!!!!!!!!"
ramboj70
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so whats wrong with wearing red lacy underwear, I put speedo's on all the time and I also wear my wifes panties, and I am on bulking diet right now, i had to stop putting wifes panties on because they were too damn tight and I keep ripping them, my fucking teabag hurt like hell when I took the panties off!THL said:
ramboj70
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and i forgot clomid makes me cry all the time, you should see me now that I have no gearramboj70 said:
Glock19
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THL said:
That was the only movie I "almost" cried like a baby at the end. But I held back. Got out of that situation with just some watery eyes and a lump in my throat...must have been some dust in the theater or something
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db2
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"Studies conducted in the late 1970's at the University of Ghent in Belgium make clear the advantages of using Nolvadex instead of Clomid for increasing testosterone levels (1). Here, researchers looked the effects of Nolvadex and Clomid on the endocrine profiles of normal men, as well as those suffering from low sperm counts (oligospermia). For our purposes, the results of these drugs on hormonally normal men are obviously the most relevant. What was found, just in the early parts of the study, was quite enlightening. Nolvadex, used for 10 days at a dosage of 20mg daily, increased serum testosterone levels to 142% of baseline, which was on par with the effect of 150mg of Clomid daily for the same duration (the testosterone increase was slightly, but not significantly, better for Clomid). We must remember though that this is the effect of three 50mg tablets of Clomid. With the price of both a 50mg Clomid and 20mg Nolvadex typically very similar, we are already seeing a cost vs. results discrepancy forming that strongly favors the Nolvadex side. "
My PCT now consists of only nolvadex, clomid has to much sides for my liking.
My PCT now consists of only nolvadex, clomid has to much sides for my liking.
einstein1905
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clomid as usual, nolva @20mg/day arimidex @ 0.25mg/day throughout pct. If it's a longer cycle, some HCG leading up to, but not coinciding with, the clomid.
Just Nolvadex should do the trick for PCT,... but combination of Nolva and Clomid would be even better,...but this Depends on the cycle you run. I read an article about Pituitary Sensitivity to GnRH when we take Nolvadex or Clomid. The study show that sensitive on GnRH in hypophysis increase after 10 days of Nolvadex treatment. Other side of this test show us that sensitive on GnRH in hypophysis decrase after 10 days of 150mg Clomid treatment/day. So we can see that Nolvadex can be even better for PCT.
Whoooh!
Wow Dude, sorry if I offended you by mentioning that having an excess of a certain hormone in my system effects my brain. I guess all that endocrine shit I learned in college was bullshit. Thanks for setting me strait.
To all my other Bro's, thanks for the advise.
Wayne.
PS, I prefer a thong while on Clomid.
Wow Dude, sorry if I offended you by mentioning that having an excess of a certain hormone in my system effects my brain. I guess all that endocrine shit I learned in college was bullshit. Thanks for setting me strait.
To all my other Bro's, thanks for the advise.
Wayne.
PS, I prefer a thong while on Clomid.
skywalk said:
I think there are two real issues here. You get affected in a bad way by Clomid, that's a fact and has to do with the chemical transfer. You shouldn't use the shit and you are right about that.gunsbilat said:
I think the other issue is using gear/sides as an excuse for acting like an shithead to people.
You are concerned about your girl, that is cool. Stay off the Clomid, use HCG and Nolv.
Cheers!
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