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big bicep is not attractive muscle, training sucks cause its boring and its more like "party muscle" for other guys to admire in club.
When I started training I didn't put much emphasis on my biceps. because I didn't want to be a stereotypic gym bro with a big biceps so I went harder on my legs. But now I want a big biceps as well.
 
It's good to have health/science fanatics on the board that push harm reduction, even if you don't agree with what they are saying or how they are saying it. Think back how bacteria or some shit got discovered, first guy got shun because people didn't see what he imagined and assumed he was schizophrenic.

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Moderate to high test doses make you look blocky and puffy. Your waist and face just look bigger the more test you take

Yeah, every pro with 1,5gr look puffy and blocky . It's the diet bro, in conjunction with estradiol levels and body fat percentage.

Also, just my personal taste.. I'd prefer to look full, swollen and puffy than stringy lean and flat.
 
Yeah, every pro with 1,5gr look puffy and blocky . It's the diet bro, in conjunction with estradiol levels and body fat percentage.

Also, just my personal taste.. I'd prefer to look full, swollen and puffy than stringy lean and flat.
You just contradicted your own statement lol. So you disagree with test making you look puffy but then admit that you enjoy the puffy look from high test …

And look at the faces of most of those pros
They’re bodies look lean but they have faces of 30% bf
 
Yeah, every pro with 1,5gr look puffy and blocky . It's the diet bro, in conjunction with estradiol levels and body fat percentage.

Also, just my personal taste.. I'd prefer to look full, swollen and puffy than stringy lean and flat.
so, even with 1,5g of test, persons face shouldnt look puffy in aggresive deficit, right?
 
You just contradicted your own statement lol. So you disagree with test making you look puffy but then admit that you enjoy the puffy look from high test …

And look at the faces of most of those pros
They’re bodies look lean but they have faces of 30% bf

No i didn't. I said i would prefer, not that is happening now.

30%? Dude, i think you're exaggerating. Ofc they not look anorexic, the "death face" from 20-30 years ago is not common nowadays but puffy faces? From all the people i ve seen only one looks like he holds too much water in the face (Robin Strand) but besides him I don't recall seeing anyone else.
 
so, even with 1,5g of test, persons face shouldnt look puffy in aggresive deficit, right?
Well, I can't say it "shouldn't", also how could i know what anyone does with his diet? Maybe someone is at 1000kcal deficit but he has a big amount of sodium, a big amount of HGH and the genetic predisposition to hold water in the face.

Also, what someone thinks looks puffy, someone else might find it normal. It's a little subjective i believe.
 
No i didn't. I said i would prefer, not that is happening now.

30%? Dude, i think you're exaggerating. Ofc they not look anorexic, the "death face" from 20-30 years ago is not common nowadays but puffy faces? From all the people i ve seen only one looks like he holds too much water in the face (Robin Strand) but besides him I don't recall seeing anyone else.
I prefer the anorexic death face look personally and higher test dose would only make it harder.

Point is more test will make a person look less leaner than they are. 150mg vs 700mg test there’s a huge difference in mineral retention that can’t be combated with ai
 
Well, I can't say it "shouldn't", also how could i know what anyone does with his diet? Maybe someone is at 1000kcal deficit but he has a big amount of sodium, a big amount of HGH and the genetic predisposition to hold water in the face.

Also, what someone thinks looks puffy, someone else might find it normal. It's a little subjective i believe.
you are probably right. from my short experince on 500mg of test, first 2 weeks i looked water filled air baloon. after i took ai for first week, i pissed like firefighter truck and it went away 80%. i hated that look on my face, couple of people told me i look swollen in face and asked if im okay. its much better now than before, i look smaller but better imo, not water inflated arms etc.

i get why people dislike this "full and puffy" look on face.
 
If you want to look lean and aesthetic as possible less test is better. You’ll burn fat easier on a low / no test base cycle
Low test burns fat better than high test? Could you articulate how that works assuming e2 is controlled across both examples?

I find difficulty on surface level because men with low test tend to store more body fat and are less insulin sensitive and partition nutrients less favorably
 
I prefer the anorexic death face look personally and higher test dose would only make it harder.

Point is more test will make a person look less leaner than they are. 150mg vs 700mg test there’s a huge difference in mineral retention that can’t be combated with ai

Yeah, won't argue about that. Less leaner but fuller, yes. Puffy is a little too dramatic, but i think we agree.
 
Low test burns fat better than high test? Could you articulate how that works assuming e2 is controlled across both examples?

I find difficulty on surface level because men with low test tend to store more body fat and are less insulin sensitive and partition nutrients less favorably
typically men with low testosterone aren't injecting tren and glp1's
 
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