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[ComancheChief]

Low test burns fat better than high test? Could you articulate how that works assuming e2 is controlled across both examples?

I find difficulty on surface level because men with low test tend to store more body fat and are less insulin sensitive and partition nutrients less favorably

When I say low test I mean accompanied with another anabolic to replace mg (150 test 300 Tren) or (200 test 600 primo)

Low test high anabolic cycles will burn fat easier and you SEE the results easily as there’s no subq water of tire around your waist and face.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

typically men with low testosterone aren't injecting tren and glp1's

That still doesn’t answer the question. Man with high test on tren and GLP1 vs man with low test on tren and GLP1; lower test better for fat loss still? Please explain

 

[Ateam2023]

i know i had less wrinkles in my face when i "puffy" , lmao,,

 

[ComancheChief]

sounds weird.

Not at all less test more anabolics puts you in an environment to lose fat easier than someone on 1g test and GH with small dose of AI.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

When I say low test I mean accompanied with another anabolic to replace mg (150 test 300 Tren) or (200 test 600 primo)

Low test high anabolic cycles will burn fat easier and you SEE the results easily as there’s no subq water of tire around your waist and face.

Okay, so you’re talking about mg equated across examples of low and high test? Said otherwise, same aas load?

I won’t argue tren has better fat burning properties than test.

But can you explain why primo for example burns fat better than test, all else equal?

 

[ComancheChief]

That still doesn’t answer the question. Man with high test on tren and GLP1 vs man with low test on tren and GLP1; lower test better for fat loss still? Please explain

Higher test isn’t going to speed up fat loss or magically increase metabolism more than primo, Eq, Tren etc.. It adds more unnecessary water retention that can’t be controlled with just AIs so fat loss is harder to visually see.

 

[Eddie.]

i know i had less wrinkles in my face when i "puffy" , lmao,,

Exactly. When i get lean i look 5-7 years older and like tired.

Not at all less test more anabolics puts you in an environment to lose fat easier than someone on 1g test and GH with small dose of AI.

That, I'm having a hard time to believe it.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Higher test isn’t going to speed up fat loss or magically increase metabolism more than primo, Eq, Tren etc.. It adds more unnecessary water retention that can’t be controlled with just AIs so fat loss is harder to visually see.

is high test going to slow it down? Your assertion is that testosterone is inferior for fat burning compared to other anabolics and I’m trying to understand how you’re coming to that conclusion

 

[ComancheChief]

Okay, so you’re talking about mg equated across examples of low and high test? Said otherwise, same aas load?

I won’t argue tren has better fat burning properties than test.

But can you explain why primo for example burns fat better than test, all else equal?

Let me correct myself: They all burn fat at relatively the same ability given equal total AAS load. 600 primo and 600 test are both equal in anabolism and fat loss. However fat loss will be visually EASIER to gauge and see on primo as there’s less mineral retention and subq water

 

[BabaJagga]

Exactly. When i get lean i look 5-7 years older and like tired.

when i was in peak diet, friends were telling me that i look sick and unhappy. so we agree

That, I'm having a hard time to believe it.

also agree

 

[ComancheChief]

Also you will LOOK better aesthetically with lower test higher anabolics on a cut compared to higher test and deca.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Let me correct myself: They all burn fat at relatively the same ability given equal total AAS load. 600 primo and 600 test are both equal in anabolism and fat loss. However fat loss will be visually EASIER to gauge and see on primo as there’s less mineral retention and subq water

Okay, think we’re on the same page. High test visually piles water on me quickly. And GH. Soon as I drop test down and GH down I bet I’ll drop 15lbs pure water about 3 days and look couple % leaner

 

[BabaJagga]

Also you will LOOK better aesthetically with lower test higher anabolics on a cut compared to higher test and deca.

you are jumping from one example to another to another, completly confusing

 

[ComancheChief]

Okay, think we’re on the same page. High test visually piles water on me quickly. And GH. Soon as I drop test down and GH down I bet I’ll drop 15lbs pure water about 3 days and look couple % leaner

Exactly what I was trying to get at. You just look better on less test overall

 

[ComancheChief]

you are jumping from one example to another to another, completly confusing

No I am not. Stop looking at the minor details and understand my basic point: You will LOOK better aesthetically on lower test dose and higher anabolics all things being equal.

 

[Ateam2023]

Let me correct myself: They all burn fat at relatively the same ability given equal total AAS load. 600 primo and 600 test are both equal in anabolism and fat loss. However fat loss will be visually EASIER to gauge and see on primo as there’s less mineral retention and subq water

Imo Testosterone is significantly more anabolic due to its higher binding ability to androgen receptors and its ability to aromatize into estrogen , which further supports more muscle growth. ,, On a mg to mg basis,,

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Imo Testosterone is significantly more anabolic due to its higher binding ability to androgen receptors and its ability to aromatize into estrogen , which further supports more muscle growth. ,, On a mg to mg basis,,

i do think test is slightly superior on a mg:mg basis for muscle building

 

[ComancheChief]

Imo Testosterone is significantly more anabolic due to its higher binding ability to androgen receptors and its ability to aromatize into estrogen , which further supports more muscle growth. ,,

Still fat loss properties are equal with the obvious exception of Tren. 600 of Eq, primo, anavar will burn fat equally as well as testosterone.

 

[Ateam2023]

Primo is milder with weaker anabolic effects albeit its still very anabolic compared to Testosterone is still more effective,, IMHO

 

[ComancheChief]

Primo is milder with weaker anabolic effects albeit its still very anabolic compared to Testosterone is still more effective,, IMHO

Would you also say that fat loss on 600 testosterone will be easier than 600 primo?

Another question, who will look better in terms of aesthetics and fullness? The 600 test + ai guy or 600 primo guy all else being 100% equal.