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[Ateam2023]

Still fat loss properties are equal with the obvious exception of Tren. 600 of Eq, primo, anavar will burn fat equally as well as testosterone.

well in reference to primo and testosterone, theres two different mechanisms that contribute to fat loss you just dont aromatize on primo so no water weight masking the fat which will help for a leaner appearance, Test burns fat through improving bmr promoting muscle growthso the increased energy expendature burns fat, This made sense as i typed it , ,,

 

[BabaJagga]

well in reference to primo and testosterone, theres two different mechanisms that contribute to fat loss you just dont aromatize on primo so no water weight masking the fat which will help for a leaner appearance, Test burns fat through improving bmr promoting muscle growthso the increased energy expendature burns fat, This made sense as i typed it , ,,

primo doesnt raise bmr? when mg to mg is equal.

 

[Ateam2023]

Would you also say that fat loss on 600 testosterone will be easier than 600 primo?

Another question, who will look better in terms of aesthetics and fullness? The 600 test + ai guy or 600 primo guy all else being 100% equal.

That would be a very individual response imo , no way to tell , to many variables,, But i see your point,,

 

[Ateam2023]

primo doesnt raise bmr? when mg to mg is equal.

test just has a broader systemic effects on metabolism and muscle mass ,,

 

[Ateam2023]

Anyway i think the combo of the two will definitely be on my list of to do's , as i age gracefully,,

 

[BabaJagga]

test just has a broader systemic effects on metabolism and muscle mass ,,

good to know, thanks.

Anyway i think the combo of the two will definitely be on my list of to do's , as i age gracefully,,

test + masteron could be great combo, right?
mast countering that water renention from test.

 

[ComancheChief]

test just has a broader systemic effects on metabolism and muscle mass ,,

I think it’s safe to say that 600mg test will make fat loss easier coupled with DHT or AI and maybe one would actually look better on that compared to simply taking 600 primo only or any low test high anabolic cycle.

 

[Ateam2023]

primo doesnt raise bmr? when mg to mg is equal.

primo DOES raise bmr but not as effectively as testosterone on a mg to mg basis,,

 

[Ateam2023]

im just leeeery about the "primo pip" i hear about,,

 

[BabaJagga]

im just leeeery about the "primo pip" i hear about,,

it cant be worse than pain from heavy legday...

 

[Eddie.]

im just leeeery about the "primo pip" i hear about,,

Nah, just don't shoot 2-3 ml primo without diluting it with test.

I just started pinning lats (virgin muscle) on my rotation, 2 days ago i did 1,5ml of test + primo and it went ok. Today i did the other lat and i barely feel it, nothing crazy..far from pip. When i was doing test and primo subq i never felt anything, there were times i forgot which side i had pinned lol.

Most horror stories is from high concentration or bad quality or big oil volume especially when the syringe is filled only with primo.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Let me correct myself: They all burn fat at relatively the same ability given equal total AAS load. 600 primo and 600 test are both equal in anabolism and fat loss. However fat loss will be visually EASIER to gauge and see on primo as there’s less mineral retention and subq water

I hate this total mg b.s, pretty sure i made a meme about it earlier in the thread. Its oversimplifcation by the people across the pond that measure their gear in CCs and need a license for a television. Primo, total aas,, theres some other idea im missing but I dont buy it, think it all got promoted by victor black.

600 test is not equal to 600 primo just like 600 test is not equal to 600 tren and why 12 oz of beer is not equal to 12 oz of liqour

Total aas load just gives you an idea on how many mls a person is willing to inject to see results

 

[BabaJagga]

Nah, just don't shoot 2-3 ml primo without diluting it with test.

I just started pinning lats (virgin muscle) on my rotation, 2 days ago i did 1,5ml of test + primo and it went ok. Today i did the other lat and i barely feel it, nothing crazy..far from pip. When i was doing test and primo subq i never felt anything, there were times i forgot which side i had pinned lol.

Most horror stories is from high concentration or bad quality or big oil volume especially when the syringe is filled only with primo.

what was your most painfull spot?

 

[ComancheChief]

I hate this total mg b.s, pretty sure i made a meme about it earlier in the thread. Its oversimplifcation by the people across the pond that measure their gear in CCs and need a license for a television. Primo, total aas,, theres some other idea im missing but I dont buy it, think it all got promoted by victor black.

600 test is not equal to 600 primo just like 600 test is not equal to 600 tren and why 12 oz of beer is not equal to 12 oz of liqour

Total aas load just gives you an idea on how many mls a person is willing to inject to see results

What dose gives you the best results without the ugly water retention?

 

[Liter O' Test]

What dose gives you the best results without the ugly water retention?

Still trying to figure that out. Back in the day like 400 was good but i was a lot smaller. Dropping to legit trt now for thenfirst time.in awhile to prioritize my health and career. Gonna add in a microdose of tren and some dry orals. Face wasnt so fat on a gram but i was also 0 carb. I got that under chin bloat on like 1500mg. Might not have been there if i used other compounds

 

[ComancheChief]

Still trying to figure that out. Back in the day like 400 was good but i was a lot smaller. Dropping to legit trt now for thenfirst time.in awhile to prioritize my health and career. Gonna add in a microdose of tren and some dry orals. Face wasnt so fat on a gram but i was also 0 carb. I got that under chin bloat on like 1500mg. Might not have been there if i used other compounds

Well yeah 1500 is a hefty dose of course lol. Maybe consider 700 test with masteron or primo? It’s high enough to yield gains while not too much to where you get bad water retention

 

[Liter O' Test]

Well yeah 1500 is a hefty dose of course lol. Maybe consider 700 test with masteron or primo? It’s high enough to yield gains while not too much to where you get bad water retention

Yeah i wanted to stay away from those cause of hair loss . But i still see the face bloat in the primo guys i know. Not too much water not intramuscular cause i kept e2 in the 20s but retention in the face, probably nutrient retention or even cortisol related who knowws. Lots of variables at play so never say never

 

[Eddie.]

what was your most painfull spot?

Honestly, i don't recall having a painful spot. Perhaps the first shots in my VG's which my side hips/ass were a bit sore for 2 days. Other than that, every spot i've tried treats me well. I pin eod or ed though, i don't like the idea of non frequent injections with way too much oil volume.

 

[BabaJagga]

Honestly, i don't recall having a painful spot. Perhaps the first shots in my VG's which my side hips/ass were a bit sore for 2 days. Other than that, every spot i've tried treats me well. I pin eod or ed though, i don't like the idea of non frequent injections with way too much oil volume.

VG seems like pain free spot, not many nerves. i will try it next but now, quads are way to go for me.

 

[Ateam2023]

VG seems like pain free spot, not many nerves. i will try it next but now, quads are way to go for me.

where is "your spot" on the quads?