Posting shipping and TA

[Jerkthamerk]

This is in no way sarcastic, just wanting to hear some members reasons for frowning upon posting TA times or say if a pack made it through certain customs. I'm not talking about personal info. Everyone knows how the mail works and it would require so much more incriminating info before this could possibly be helpful to LE. I honestly am just looking to weigh everyone who's opposed's reasoning.

 

[insaiyan93]

I dont think its so much the fact that people post about TA. Its more when people giving glowing reviews saying the source is gtg based on TA.

 

[TS561]

This is in no way sarcastic, just wanting to hear some members reasons for frowning upon posting TA times or say if a pack made it through certain customs. I'm not talking about personal info. Everyone knows how the mail works and it would require so much more incriminating info before this could possibly be helpful to LE. I honestly am just looking to weigh everyone who's opposed's reasoning.

Ok, this mind sound a little rude, but I am just being honest. You must not understand how LE operate. The fuckers just sit there and watch, and listen. Day after day. What are they doing? Just gathering little pieces of the puzzle. Every little bit helps. The smallest thing can lead them to something bigger. Don't give away anything at anytime. Just my thoughts.

 

[ambulldog]

I dont have a problem with it. But i dont see the point. Why would i give a fuck if your pack made it to you? Thats how i see it.

Im on boards to share knowledge, receive knowledge etc. Not to gloat about my pack coming and whats in it and how long it took.

 

[Dimentio]

Ok, this mind sound a little rude, but I am just being honest. You must not understand how LE operate. The fuckers just sit there and watch, and listen. Day after day. What are they doing? Just gathering little pieces of the puzzle. Every little bit helps. The smallest thing can lead them to something bigger. Don't give away anything at anytime. Just my thoughts.

You must think we live in a pretty boring world.
Fact is, most LE agencies are overworked and understaffed.

 

[TS561]

You must think we live in a pretty boring world.
Fact is, most LE agencies are overworked and understaffed.

Have you ever heard of major steroid bust? Maybe something internet related? Some one took the time out of their busy day to make an effort.

 

[CdnGuy]

Any one who has to ask this question OP has no understanding of the criminal world or the way LE works. GL

 

[Jerkthamerk]

I tend to lean towards them being a little too busy most of the time, with the exception of a special task force maybe and they would be focuse on bigger fish. But that's not really the point. Whether they are or not This info wouldn't benefit them. It is far too broad and unspecific.

Edit: also remember this would more than likely be on a source thread, not just gloating as you say in a general forum. Info specific to certain sources on their own thread.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

Any one who has to ask this question OP has no understanding of the criminal world or the way LE works. GL

You have provided no explanation therefore your statement carries no weight. If you have something to contribute please do. Actually I challenge you to come up with some circumstance where this would lead to an arrest. Please try not to let your imagination stray to far.

 

[TS561]

I tend to lean towards them being a little too busy most of the time, with the exception of a special task force maybe and they would be focuse on bigger fish. But that's not really the point. Whether they are or not This info wouldn't benefit them. It is far too broad and unspecific.

Fair enough, and I do mean that. So, in the spirit of lively debate I propose the following.

1) What bait would you use to catch the "bigger" fish?

If I knew roughly where to look (which costumes house), roughly when to look(TA), what to look for(description of stealth). then how long before I have my bait. Also, traffic analysis and statistical modeling can be applied to any system. Not just the internet. What makes those things effective. Input data. There more of it and the more accurate the better. This is task force level for sure. But one guy with a laptop can compile plenty of data for later use.

 

[Big_paul]

This is in no way sarcastic, just wanting to hear some members reasons for frowning upon posting TA times or say if a pack made it through certain customs.

Always protect your personal information. It is just a good habit. The main reason is to protect your source. Never post shipping details. I have witnessed with my own eyes guys taking photos of their packs and posting those images on Mesorx. They are not around anymore.

There is just no reason for anyone to have any info other than the parties involved. Fortunately Ped's are not high on the list of priorities. Don't get stupid and make it easy though.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

I agree with everything you say but I don't think it directly correlates. Obviously describing stealth packaging is completely moronic and should never be discussed. Your reasoning is being a bit deceptive in relating knowing TA time of a package in the same field of knowing where to look "costume house". These are two very different levels of information. If there looking in the first place they know there are products being shipped. If there trying to find a specific destination that means they know of a specific package being shipped. So on and so on. Without straying into personal info you are not telling them anything they don't already know.

 

[TS561]

I agree with everything you say but I don't think it directly correlates. Obviously describing stealth packaging is completely moronic and should never be discussed. Your reasoning is being a bit deceptive in relating knowing TA time of a package in the same field of knowing where to look "costume house". These are two very different levels of information. If there looking in the first place they know there are products being shipped. If there trying to find a specific destination that means they know of a specific package being shipped. So on and so on. Without straying into personal info you are not telling them anything they don't already know.

Think of High School Algebra. If I know two I can always find the third. thus my point about modeling and analysis. Think of everything as a data point. The more points I have the closer I am to a solution.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

Always protect your personal information. It is just a good habit. The main reason is to protect your source. Never post shipping details. I have witnessed with my own eyes guys taking photos of their packs and posting those images on Mesorx. They are not around anymore.

There is just no reason for anyone to have any info other than the parties involved. Fortunately Ped's are not high on the list of priorities. Don't get stupid and make it easy though.

Now this I can totally agree with. About the only party involved who could possibly be affected would be the source. We are not talking about personal info. And if someone were to post that they received a pack that would only confirm that they are indeed ordering, but being on a steroid forum discussing source implies this anyway. Also anyone who posts on forums about illegal activities should not have their personal email tied to their account and so on.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

Think of High School Algebra. If I know two I can always find the third. thus my point about modeling and analysis. Think of everything as a data point. The more points I have the closer I am to a solution.

Yes, these are true statements, but again they do not apply to this situation. For the info to be of any benefit at all they would have to have so much other info that would be much harder to obtain and by then it wouldn't matter anyways. Posting these things is like posting commonknowledge. They would have to have your order info from sellers site just to know when you made the purchase and that it was a purchase of illegal substances, then you saying they would need to know the TA time. It'sirrelevant, by then If the info benefits them it's already over. If they can do all the legwork to make the info relevant it makes it the least of your worries. Confirming that it will most likely arrive Thursday instead of Friday is neither here northere.... Your fucked. See what I'm saying at all?

 

[ironwill1951]

give me a reason why you should post TA ? none.
you have the logic of a woman,
reading your shit is like arguing with my gf.

 

[Big_paul]

I agree with everything you say but I don't think it directly correlates. Obviously describing stealth packaging is completely moronic and should never be discussed. Your reasoning is being a bit deceptive in relating knowing TA time of a package in the same field of knowing where to look "costume house". These are two very different levels of information. If there looking in the first place they know there are products being shipped. If there trying to find a specific destination that means they know of a specific package being shipped. So on and so on. Without straying into personal info you are not telling them anything they don't already know.

If the feds wanted to, they could shut down the entire international steroid market overnight. With all the shitheads in this country using synthetic drugs out of China, that is a very real possibility.Think about it. How many of us would ever receive a package from China? It is already a huge red flag.

Keep your personal info private, and if I was having issues with an overseas source, I would not post it on the open board, and try to resolve it privately first.

 

[TS561]

Yes, these are true statements, but again they do not apply to this situation. For the info to be of any benefit at all they would have to have so much other info that would be much harder to obtain and by then it wouldn't matter anyways. Posting these things is like posting commonknowledge. They would have to have your order info from sellers site just to know when you made the purchase and that it was a purchase of illegal substances, then you saying they would need to know the TA time. It'sirrelevant, by then If the info benefits them it's already over. If they can do all the legwork to make the info relevant it makes it the least of your worries. Confirming that it will most likely arrive Thursday instead of Friday is neither here northere.... Your fucked. See what I'm saying at all?

I feel that here may be a communication barrier that I am unable to overcome. I leave you with this final thought. Think Macro and not Micro. You rebuttals are centered on specifics. Of course if you have specifics then there is very little you still need do. I am attempting to convey methodology used to go from very general aggregate information to more focused details. I mean you no disrespect, and wish you well. Thank you

 

[CdnGuy]

give me a reason why you should post TA ? none.
you have the logic of a woman,
reading your shit is like arguing with my gf.

This clown would do well in jail! As a fuck boy!

 

[Jerkthamerk]

give me a reason why you should post TA ? none.
you have the logic of a woman,
reading your shit is like arguing with my gf.

To benefit other members that want to know... That's just one. I was just asked yesterday in fact. And asked if some customs hubs are harder to get through. Your gf sounds pretty smart. Thanks for your personal pov on the subject. Have an awesome day man.

I feel that here may be a communication barrier that I am unable to overcome. I leave you with this final thought. Think Macro and not Micro. You rebuttals are centered on specifics. Of course if you have specifics then there is very little you still need do. I am attempting to convey methodology used to go from very general aggregate information to more focused details. I mean you no disrespect, and wish you well. Thank you

I do see what your saying and agree fully though it is quite improbable imho. I just find it hard the feeling is not at all mutual. Someone as intelligent as yourself should be able to see the low probability of something like this happening and playing that big of a factor. But hats all I wanted from this thread. I obviously had my own views and tried to convey them and your arguments have swayed my opinion somewhat. Thanks for not insulting your own girlfriend... Lol Jp... and having an adult convo.