PRC designates 13 chemical precursors used to make fentanyl and agrees to control 7 chemical subsidiaries

[IndividualMan]

But these yields would not be economical? I imagine you could bootstrap your way to small yields but the pricing would be wild given that it would leave very little room for seizures, etc. People tend to figure shit out if there is enough money to be made, but I am just not sure that there is in this case. I have no idea to be honest, just a retarded monkey who is interested.

Thanks for sharing this info

economic for personal use? assumin the only alternative is buying finished product, yes.
Economically viable for production/distribution? hell no.

Generally, selling AAS is bad business, imo, and I want nothing to do with it. Doing funky stuff for personal use is always a fun adventure tho.

 

[Mrhairyman]

Tbf most raws are somewhat easy to make for most trained chemists, and not undoable for amateur chemists. a used setup worth around 2K and you can start making 19-nors starting from Estrone/ Estradiol forms which are easy to purchase privately. DHTs are tougher, and test itself just takes a while (minimum 4 full steps from the precursors and chemistry papers i have found)
Accurate temps, adequately cleaned equipment, and proper mixing for larger batches would be my main concern.

All of this is only for small batches, below 100g final product.

I have seen some cook barrels for test (5kg), which turned out to yield shit quality due to improper mixing and uneven heating. Nasty wasteful stuff.

Purification can be done tho, as we have seen in my third favorite thread on here. Works great as our friend from norse mythology showed us.


Lastly,
Esterfication could be done by a retarded monkey, so thats not your problem.
Just get the base, add acetic, oenanthic or decanoic anhydride, an acid that shall not be named, another ingredient i have written down somewhere, mix, heat , et voila.

When are you going to start making Primo ?

 

[Ghoul]

When are you going to start making Primo ?

Or better yet, why aren’t the chemists in China supposedly making new raws not focusing on “more $ per kilo than cocaine” Primo, and instead making super popular things like “Trenbalone, no ester” and “Testosterone-L Nobuyeranoate”?

 

[IndividualMan]

When are you going to start making Primo ?

all DHT derivative syntheses I have start from DHT. I have 8.5 grams of DHT at my stash. just for properly figuring out the process I would need much more.
So thats not happening.


!9-nors (nand & tren) I could make, as they start from estradiol, and might have made some in the past, but they are not desirable for me. MENT synthesis I have not yet found the paper for (probably just 1 or 2 steps from Nandrolone so you can add the methyl group at the right Carbon)