Pre workout no caffeine

boboooio

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What is the most powerful pre workout you would say for motivation, strength, endurance, focus, and energy (most important or motivation, energy, and focus).
 
Since you've wrote no caffeine, I would say Rocky 3, but it takes about an hour to feel anything....

Jokes aside, a bit more information would be great:
- no caffeine means no stim at all?
- herbal or supplement stuff or injections? Orals?

Motivation is something no supplement should give you, you rely on this stuff way to easy and to fast if you need something to motivate you in this way.
A good dose of choline works great.
I'm not sure what I think about methylene blue by now.
 
Any pump pre workout with a nootropic blend
I quit taking Stim pre workouts due to just cutting down on caffeine. It makes me have anxiety so bad.

My combo - pump pre, little rip of my wax pen, Nicotine pouch, lions mane, alpha gpc.
(Everything an ADHD’r needs for focus lol)

Used to take DMAA as well, that shit had me locked. But never took it with no caffeine. So not sure how the effect is without caffeine. But if I remember correctly. DMAA is very similarly built to Adderall.

Tren base, test base, halo. All definitely made me aggressive and lift longer in the gym. Just the PIP from the blend can be annoying.
 
My wife is sensitive to caffeine and we work out at night so sometimes use this product... it works well.


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One of the listed ingredients is [(3-chloro-6-methyl-5,5-dioxo-6,11-dihydrodibenzo[c,f]thiazepin-11-yl)amino]heptanoic acid - aka tianeptine. If not familiar with it, it's an atypical antidepressant/anxiolytic prescribed elsewhere in the world but deemed verboten by FDA because it is has activity as an μ-opioid agonist thus potentially abusable. It has other effects too, including some PPARδ agonism, modulation of the glutamtergic system, and selective serotonin reuptake enhancer. It does not have sexual or cardiovascular side effects, and IMO is far superior to SSRIs in every way (which are handed out like candy to practically every patient seeking psychologic/psychiatric care in the USA). It is also available in 12.5mg pharma tablets from PCT24x7 btw.

Anyway, do your own research about it before ordering, as it may or may not be suitable for any particular individual.
 
My wife is sensitive to caffeine and we work out at night so sometimes use this product... it works well.


or


One of the listed ingredients is [(3-chloro-6-methyl-5,5-dioxo-6,11-dihydrodibenzo[c,f]thiazepin-11-yl)amino]heptanoic acid - aka tianeptine. If not familiar with it, it's an atypical antidepressant/anxiolytic prescribed elsewhere in the world but deemed verboten by FDA because it is has activity as an μ-opioid agonist thus potentially abusable. It has other effects too, including some PPARδ agonism, modulation of the glutamtergic system, and selective serotonin reuptake enhancer. It does not have sexual or cardiovascular side effects, and IMO is far superior to SSRIs in every way (which are handed out like candy to practically every patient seeking psychologic/psychiatric care in the USA). It is also available in 12.5mg pharma tablets from PCT24x7 btw.

Anyway, do your own research about it before ordering, as it may or may not be suitable for any particular individual.
Holy shit!!!.
We used to sell this alpha mood stuff at my nutrition store I ran.
Definitely different formula with the OG alpha mood pills.
It was like mild adderall and you felt great all day.
When I first started taking it. I was wired and in a good mood all day long.

You just brought back so many random memories for me lmao
 
Holy shit!!!.
We used to sell this alpha mood stuff at my nutrition store I ran.
Definitely different formula with the OG alpha mood pills.
It was like mild adderall and you felt great all day.
When I first started taking it. I was wired and in a good mood all day long.

You just brought back so many random memories for me lmao
Tianeptine can be a really good drug, if used properly. Like everything from soda to tren to oxycodone, it can be abused…

I usually give my wife a half scoop, as she’s barely over 100 lbs, but she gets a full scoop on certain days of the month lol

She has had some issues with depression in the past, of course her idiot psych NP prescribes an SSRI (Lexapro). Instant loss of libido, anorgasmia and basically anhedonia … got her some 12.5 mg tianeptine tabs from pct24x7 which fixed the problem in short order with no sexual sides.

Why does the FDA and psych community want everyone on SSRIs?

There are dozens of different types of serotonin receptors in the brain doing very different things - even the same type of receptor indifferent parts of the brain can have differing effects. Giving an SSRI is akin to going into an airplane cockpit and turning on every single f’ing switch… not a good idea in either scenario!

There are better drugs to deal with serotonin associated mood issues, like trazodone which at least has some selectivity. Tianeptine is sort of a SSRE (E meaning enhancer) so, like flibanserine, it can increase libido although the opioid receptor activity largely negates that.
 
Why does the FDA and psych community want everyone on SSRIs?
Pharma is the biggest money grab & scummy organization.

USA pharma versus the rest of the world really tells you a lot.
They’re here for nothing but money and don’t give a shit about people or the repercussions that people have to deal with.

My Ex was prescribed SSRI’s as well, completely changed her mentally and fucked her up. Was really sad.
 
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