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Fuckin impossible to follow this source thread. Since earlier the same goddamn morning there’s 20 new pages. I’m trying to wait for testing results but FUCKthat I’m just going to buy and send it
Don't they post them in the analytical testing forum?

 
How many people *really* need any of this stuff that fast? I’ve said it before, it doesn’t make good business sense to sell before testing. I think we’re witnessing some of the issues associated with that “strategy”. Nobody’s gonna say “fuck this guy, he insists on testing his stuff before selling”. And if they do, they’re probably better served buying China oils.
It's not up to us to determine what makes a want vs need for someone else

Maybe the day will come when the supply chain will allow planning ahead and testing before selling

But right now, it be what it be.

If you want ensured product AND ensured testing, buy it early and test it yourself

They even pay you back if you do it
 
How many people *really* need any of this stuff that fast?
When you finally understand the answer to that question...congrats.

Conjures up the following concepts

(1) what community standards are vs what they should be

(2) where much of this stuff ends up

Why does a product need to be tested before the purchaser buys it if the purchaser isn't the end user? Does the purchaser care if the end user is getting what's on the label?
 
Don't they post them in the analytical testing forum?

Thank you. Ignore my rookie ass. Also saw I can look at primals comments by clicking profile
 
Still a lot that I don’t get.

I think we’d all love a bit more transparency on these tradeoffs, batches, tests. I see a question about Test E and I asked about NPP too. There’s a lack of clarity about what P10 means and what has been brewed and tested since launch. The grey area of unknowns can be improved whilst still dealing with the trade offs.

Is this a fair statement? “Our scale and current demand means new fresh brews of product aren’t always tested. Based upon tested brews of tested raws we do not anticipate large variances between batches, but to reactively offer peace of mind we have a generous test reimbursement policy that we’d encourage you to use.”
He kinda copped to not testing everything and rushed to meet demand/profit.... went back on campaign promises.... has this never happened? Business as usual for any vendor spare Stanny. He should clean up his shit stains and move forward.
 
It's not up to us to determine what makes a want vs need for someone else

Maybe the day will come when the supply chain will allow planning ahead and testing before selling

But right now, it be what it be.

If you want ensured product AND ensured testing, buy it early and test it yourself

They even pay you back if you do it
Or choose a vendor who tests first. They are out there, and not hard to find.
 
Can't it's sold out before it returns
I say ya can't have it before testing is done. If ya get 800 customers and you can only take 300 you can stop taking orders and focus on the 300. Then open again. Stanfords successful business model. If you're on point, they'll fight for you to please take my order. He went private and then public several times.
 
He kinda copped to not testing everything and rushed to meet demand/profit.... went back on campaign promises.... has this never happened? Business as usual for any vendor spare Stanny. He should clean up his shit stains and move forward.

I say ya can't have it before testing is done. If ya get 800 customers and you can only take 300 you can stop taking orders and focus on the 300. Then open again. Stanfords successful business model. If you're on point, they'll fight for you to please take my order. He went private and then public several times.
Might want to visit Stan’s page and read a few back. Even he just got screwed by these crap raws.

Yes, testing should be done first- I think more now than ever cause these raws are garbage.

We need to support testing and understand that adds a week or two on stocking.
 
Maybe. None of this seems so strange. Easy to pay for testing for a customer if is builds trust in the product long term. It's a healthy policy.

Another vendor today is having feedback on a vial from february and planning how to make people good. It's tragic when it happens, but vendors can have complete confidence in their products and make big guarantees.

Another big test is how they follow through and make good when they're wrong.

There's still room for transparency though. What is P10?
P10 is what all of our original vials started with. That correlates to 001 when it comes to testing.

Matching batch numbers with labels was brought up a couple months ago so we started rolling that out. The only compounds that got old labels on current batches was Test Cyp and Test E. There was also a brief gap between 001 and P11, so based on when your order was placed we can identify exactly which batch your vials came from.

We could have definitely been tighter on labeling. It has been four months and we are improving this process every day.
 
I ordered well after the test E was sent in for testing but I received batch p10 on the test e I flipped through the other forum but didn’t see p10 results? Might have missed it
batch 001

Even the test e 250 is labeled p11?

If so will we be getting the jano results on both batches @Primal_Pharma ? Because mine and the one I sent to jano is labeled p10
batch 001
There’s a missing batch.

1. Intro batch (001)
2. Missing
3. P11

You have what I have, as well as 3 others, have been waiting on since 9/10.
Batch 001 = p10.
No other batch till 11. Little label overlap on new batch that someone used the wrong batch # labels on. Hence some p11 labeled as p10 and why hes using a date reference to determine which batch you have.
p11 = awaiting results.

It hasnt been all that hard to follow if you just ignore all the screaming and repeating of questions that have already been answered multiple times. Yall dont want to accept the fact that you have to wait for testing. Doesnt matter how long, the report should have the sample received on date and youll have all your information.

Now for the real question... do you walk the talk? Youve already said you were done, but didnt honor your word. Now how about you try again and maybe revisit once the results are posted.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Still a lot that I don’t get.

I think we’d all love a bit more transparency on these tradeoffs, batches, tests. I see a question about Test E and I asked about NPP too. There’s a lack of clarity about what P10 means and what has been brewed and tested since launch. The grey area of unknowns can be improved whilst still dealing with the trade offs.

Is this a fair statement? “Our scale and current demand means new fresh brews of product aren’t always tested. Based upon tested brews of tested raws we do not anticipate large variances between batches, but to reactively offer peace of mind we have a generous test reimbursement policy that we’d encourage you to use.”
This was answered many times, NPP still on same batch as results on site.
“Apparently if you ordered from end of September onward, you have the latest P11 batch that was tested regardless if your vial has a P10 on it”

I don’t think this is accurate. I’d like to believe batch labeled p11 is p11 brewed product and aligns with p11 test reports, but that doesn’t add clarity about what p10 is.
I think the explanation we received explains it pretty well. That you dont want to believe it is another thing. Simple fix, send it in for testing. Compare your blind results with everyone else that sent theirs and compare those to primals.

again p10 = batch 001
Looks like the deva I have is batch p10 so that wouldn't be batch 001. Do you have testing for that?

I thought I saw a blind test on it but can't find it here or in the testing thread
See above.

Ive literally typed responses to all these questions and decided not to send many times in the last two days because the answers are already out there.
I didnt send because at the end of the day, its irrelevant. Yall are just rambling and entertaining yourselfs (or your personal agendas) while you know we have to wait for testing. Its in-process from multiple members ontop of sources own testing.

Its all just screaming and pointless ramble until the results are posted. If we were only waiting for the source I would understand, BUT source has offered to reimburse testing fees and we are waiting for blind tests too. Regardless of if you FEEL its about honor or FEEL its for the results, nobody truly cares.. Thats the beauty of science and data, removes all that personal noise.

P.S. You should all be doing your own testing regardless. Your arguing over a number that a primate put on the vial. Primal should have randomized batch numbers to really throw yall for a loop. Ultimate level harm reduction: No batch numbers, no nothing.. He's making sure you test your shit. Find the easter egg vial and get an extra set of buttcheeks on your next order.


Ask yourselves this..
If you have trust issues here, why did you purchase?
Are you upset with yourselves for not being able to hold off on purchasing till testing came back?
When testing comes back, will you accept the results as valid regardless of if they fit your narrative or not? Will it just fuel your next chapter of conspiracies?

Simple solution.. Use a domestic testing lab ($50-60) to test your batches as you buy them.

If your willing to pin blindly to save $60, then at the end of the day your okay trusting a random strangers internet papers as long as it carries your delusion of "My gears good, I dont have to test it".. Or like I like to say.. Your being lazy.

There is not cost and youll actually get paid for sending out testing.. so the only thing standing between you and the answers you so desperately seek is.. YOUR efforts and YOUR patience. You have control of both of those (at no cost to you... dont take that for granted).

Now can we please go back to tren demons and their desire to hear pee noises? It was pretty interesting... for research of course.

Thanks

This isnt directed at anyone in particular.
 
Yeah I fucked that one up boys, my bad. Took forever to send it out after realizing I never sent it in with the last few results that just dropped.

Should be landing this week with results:

Test E250 plus raw
Test U250 plus raw
Mast P100
Mast P200
Mast P raw
Violet Tops
EQ

I think that’s it but I’ll update it if I missed anything.

So where is the Raw Testing for Test E? Should have had results back on Oct 6th with the others...

Both brother

So those raws weren't included after all...

Going out tomorrow. Those^ had already been shipped off by the time MENT got here

Hmmm...
 
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Might want to visit Stan’s page and read a few back. Even he just got screwed by these crap raws.

Yes, testing should be done first- I think more now than ever cause these raws are garbage.

We need to support testing and understand that adds a week or two on stocking.
Yup. Dudes considering retiring until the raws situation gets better. You hear whispers of certain raws getting made again, then read stuff like this. Its wild out there.
 
Might want to visit Stan’s page and read a few back. Even he just got screwed by these crap raws.

Yes, testing should be done first- I think more now than ever cause these raws are garbage.

We need to support testing and understand that adds a week or two on stocking.
Didn't know that and stand corrected. Stan was the only source I used for a long time but now I only buy 4 or 5 vials a year and do more peptides.
 
Didn't know that and stand corrected. Stan was the only source I used for a long time but now I only buy 4 or 5 vials a year and do more peptides.
If I read that thread correctly I think what Stan said was that he may have mistakenly used measurements for a 200 mg / ml GSO product on what was supposed to be a 250 mg / ml MCT product of the same compound, which resulted in significant ( > 20%) under-dosing. Irrespective of that, the raws situation is horrible.
 
This was answered many times, NPP still on same batch as results on site.
Show me one!

I think the explanation we received explains it pretty well. That you dont want to believe it is another thing.
Dude. You haven't been reading what i've been writing. I've tried to be concise and objective throughout. Any narrative about what i believe is in YOUR head. I won't respond to rest of your comment and their issues with them as we aren't on the same page other than to say that if I'm the only cunt who doesn't expect batch P10 to be the same as batch 001 then fuck me sideways.
 
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