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[anavarstop]

Welcome to Meso. That is harm reduction… just with seasoning.

The usual process is: you ask a question, get lightly roasted, called a retard in three different ways, and then someone actually gives you solid advice. No one’s mad, that’s just the culture here.

Also, pro tip for harm reduction: the search bar. Type your question in and you’ll find 10 threads where it’s already been argued, overanalyzed, and solved. Saves time and reduces harm to your sanity.

haha yea im over it, dude seems cool just both were in bad moods im sure. thanks boss.

 

[trynagains]

+1 for the BD 3mL, smooth plunger

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I use the BD 1ml and 3ml now. BD is a sexy fucking syringe.

 

[hard_gains]

haha yea im over it, dude seems cool just both were in bad moods im sure. thanks boss.

Exactly we yell at you because we care.

 

[riggspersonal]

I use the BD 1ml and 3ml now. BD is a sexy fucking syringe.

BD is hospital-grade. The best.

 

[riggspersonal]

All my TRT nurses have said it's fine to use the same needle to withdraw & inject and then discard, which I did for a long time

Now I re-use the same pin to withdrawal many times, but it's not the same one used for injections

I would not do that.

 

[Dial It In]

haha yea im over it, dude seems cool just both were in bad moods im sure. thanks boss.

Asked some stuff on one of your threads if you are still wanting some questions answered. And I am cool im just a dick sometimes, I was giving the business with my original account 14-15 years ago. But I’m still here and much better off for it.

 

[Dial It In]

A

I would not do that.

Agreed. There are some microscopic photos out there that show how a syringe will barb up and the coating come off after pulling from a vial. Plus getting 200-300 syringes is pretty cheap and so are needles.

 

[NecroPhil]

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Agreed. There are some microscopic photos out there that show how a syringe will barb up and the coating come off after pulling from a vial. Plus getting 200-300 syringes is pretty cheap and so are needles.

Interesting. What would the protocol be for using insulin syringes then if the needle is already destroyed from piercing the vial once?

 

[Dial It In]

Interesting. What would the protocol be for using insulin syringes then if the needle is already destroyed from piercing the vial once?

Good question. I’ve always only pierced the insulin syringe once and will use. But, I buy a higher quality insulin pin. I can tell you the difference can be felt. But for oils I think most of us use a draw needle and inject needle then toss it all. I won’t pierce numerous stoppers with my insulin pins. It’s just a practice I use to reduce risk. Would you like the link to some high quality insulin pins? It’s not necessarily destroyed and if it comes off that way it wasn’t my intent. If y it r mixing numerous peptides you can always use a regular syringe and switch to a 30ga.

 

[Civdiv]

Primal Ment jano results

 

[crispybacon!]

Interesting. What would the protocol be for using insulin syringes then if the needle is already destroyed from piercing the vial once?

It wouldn’t be “destroyed” but would definitely not be as sharp as before. Many people backload insulin syringes to avoid this. Stopper material is also a consideration. For example, the only time I will use an insulin syringe to both draw and inject is with a silicone stopper, because they are so soft and do very little damage to the needle.

Also, using the same needle to drawn and inject is a different than repeatedly using the same needle to draw. How do you even maintain sterility doing that?

 

[crispybacon!]

Primal Ment jano results

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When was your ment purchased, and did you have the new (black) or old caps?

I have a full vial of ment at Jano now to be tested. It’s the new stoppers and black caps. I suspect I should have results before to long. Also doing GCMS.

 

[riggspersonal]

For all my peptides, I use the same Easy Touch insulin needles for both drawing and injecting. I have made the mistake of piercing the vial twice with the same needle and definitely notice a difference in sharpness and pain when doing so. Would not recommend.

For test, I've always used a larger gauge luer lock needle to draw and a smaller gauge luer lock needle to inject. BD for both, individually wrapped. Toss after single use.

 

[NecroPhil]

Good question. I’ve always only pierced the insulin syringe once and will use. But, I buy a higher quality insulin pin. I can tell you the difference can be felt. But for oils I think most of us use a draw needle and inject needle then toss it all. I won’t pierce numerous stoppers with my insulin pins. It’s just a practice I use to reduce risk. Would you like the link to some high quality insulin pins? It’s not necessarily destroyed and if it comes off that way it wasn’t my intent. If y it r mixing numerous peptides you can always use a regular syringe and switch to a 30ga.

Yes please send link. I have just been using amazon pins and they are junk.

 

[Dial It In]

For all my peptides, I use the same Easy Touch insulin needles for both drawing and injecting. I have made the mistake of piercing the vial twice with the same needle and definitely notice a difference in sharpness and pain when doing so. Would not recommend.

For test, I've always used a larger gauge luer lock needle to draw and a smaller gauge luer lock needle to inject. BD for both, individually wrapped. Toss after single use.

I’m going to DM you a much better insulin pin

 

[AlexDavis43]

Interesting. What would the protocol be for using insulin syringes then if the needle is already destroyed from piercing the vial once?

It wouldn’t be “destroyed” but would definitely not be as sharp as before. Many people backload insulin syringes to avoid this. Stopper material is also a consideration. For example, the only time I will use an insulin syringe to both draw and inject is with a silicone stopper, because they are so soft and do very little damage to the needle.

Also, using the same needle to drawn and inject is a different than repeatedly using the same needle to draw. How do you even maintain sterility doing that?

This is super old school, but there was a study on type 1 diabetics who used to inject WAY more frequently than any GLP1 karens or tiktok peptide bro's

They would typically use the same needle for 6 injections on average

To clarify: 6 times piercing the insulin vial and 6 times being injected, the same pin

They reported no discomfort or infections; just did it for convenience (nothing to do with price or saving a buck)

 

[Civdiv]

When was your ment purchased, and did you have the new (black) or old caps?

I have a full vial of ment at Jano now to be tested. It’s the new stoppers and black caps. I suspect I should have results before to long. Also doing GCMS.

Yeah, black caps. Bought at the end of December

 

[Dial It In]

This is super old school, but there was a study on type 1 diabetics who used to inject WAY more frequently than any GLP1 karens or tiktok peptide bro's

They would typically use the same needle for 6 injections on average

To clarify: 6 times piercing the insulin vial and 6 times being injected, the same pin

They reported no discomfort or infections; just did it for convenience (nothing to do with price or saving a buck)

Yeah im old don’t rub it in lol

 

[Civdiv]

Nonne

I’m going to DM you a much better insulin pin

No need to dm. I'd like to hear what's better out there too!

 

[AlexDavis43]

This is super old school, but there was a study on type 1 diabetics who used to inject WAY more frequently than any GLP1 karens or tiktok peptide bro's

They would typically use the same needle for 6 injections on average

To clarify: 6 times piercing the insulin vial and 6 times being injected, the same pin

They reported no discomfort or infections; just did it for convenience (nothing to do with price or saving a buck)

Further: no offense to all of Meso but the line between harm reduction and bubble boy syndrome is becoming blurry at times

Those T1Ds would reuse the same pin multiple times and stick the damn thing straight through their shirt, literally

No alcohol swab, probably a dirty shirt, and who the fuck knows what else

Also: no infections, no discomfort, and they've been doing it for decades

I understand the counter-argument: "maybe they didn't lose an ass cheek the next day, but what about 20 years later when they have sore joints or forgot where they put their keys? That could've been due to non-aseptic injection technique; inflammatory particles building up over time"

OK. Whatever. I'm not injecting with the same pin 6 times through clothing but I'm not living my life like a bubble boy.

and anyway, I don't think there's any legitimacy to that counter-argument otherwise every retired bodybuilder would be functionally retarded