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[NecroPhil]

Good question. I’ve always only pierced the insulin syringe once and will use. But, I buy a higher quality insulin pin. I can tell you the difference can be felt. But for oils I think most of us use a draw needle and inject needle then toss it all. I won’t pierce numerous stoppers with my insulin pins. It’s just a practice I use to reduce risk. Would you like the link to some high quality insulin pins? It’s not necessarily destroyed and if it comes off that way it wasn’t my intent. If y it r mixing numerous peptides you can always use a regular syringe and switch to a 30ga.

Yes please send link. I have just been using amazon pins and they are junk.

 

[Dial It In]

For all my peptides, I use the same Easy Touch insulin needles for both drawing and injecting. I have made the mistake of piercing the vial twice with the same needle and definitely notice a difference in sharpness and pain when doing so. Would not recommend.

For test, I've always used a larger gauge luer lock needle to draw and a smaller gauge luer lock needle to inject. BD for both, individually wrapped. Toss after single use.

I’m going to DM you a much better insulin pin

 

[AlexDavis43]

Interesting. What would the protocol be for using insulin syringes then if the needle is already destroyed from piercing the vial once?

It wouldn’t be “destroyed” but would definitely not be as sharp as before. Many people backload insulin syringes to avoid this. Stopper material is also a consideration. For example, the only time I will use an insulin syringe to both draw and inject is with a silicone stopper, because they are so soft and do very little damage to the needle.

Also, using the same needle to drawn and inject is a different than repeatedly using the same needle to draw. How do you even maintain sterility doing that?

This is super old school, but there was a study on type 1 diabetics who used to inject WAY more frequently than any GLP1 karens or tiktok peptide bro's

They would typically use the same needle for 6 injections on average

To clarify: 6 times piercing the insulin vial and 6 times being injected, the same pin

They reported no discomfort or infections; just did it for convenience (nothing to do with price or saving a buck)

 

[Civdiv]

When was your ment purchased, and did you have the new (black) or old caps?

I have a full vial of ment at Jano now to be tested. It’s the new stoppers and black caps. I suspect I should have results before to long. Also doing GCMS.

Yeah, black caps. Bought at the end of December

 

[Dial It In]

This is super old school, but there was a study on type 1 diabetics who used to inject WAY more frequently than any GLP1 karens or tiktok peptide bro's

They would typically use the same needle for 6 injections on average

To clarify: 6 times piercing the insulin vial and 6 times being injected, the same pin

They reported no discomfort or infections; just did it for convenience (nothing to do with price or saving a buck)

Yeah im old don’t rub it in lol

 

[Civdiv]

Nonne

I’m going to DM you a much better insulin pin

No need to dm. I'd like to hear what's better out there too!

 

[AlexDavis43]

This is super old school, but there was a study on type 1 diabetics who used to inject WAY more frequently than any GLP1 karens or tiktok peptide bro's

They would typically use the same needle for 6 injections on average

To clarify: 6 times piercing the insulin vial and 6 times being injected, the same pin

They reported no discomfort or infections; just did it for convenience (nothing to do with price or saving a buck)

Further: no offense to all of Meso but the line between harm reduction and bubble boy syndrome is becoming blurry at times

Those T1Ds would reuse the same pin multiple times and stick the damn thing straight through their shirt, literally

No alcohol swab, probably a dirty shirt, and who the fuck knows what else

Also: no infections, no discomfort, and they've been doing it for decades

I understand the counter-argument: "maybe they didn't lose an ass cheek the next day, but what about 20 years later when they have sore joints or forgot where they put their keys? That could've been due to non-aseptic injection technique; inflammatory particles building up over time"

OK. Whatever. I'm not injecting with the same pin 6 times through clothing but I'm not living my life like a bubble boy.

and anyway, I don't think there's any legitimacy to that counter-argument otherwise every retired bodybuilder would be functionally retarded

 

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Nonne

No need to dm. I'd like to hear what's better out there too!

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Night and day from those easy touch

 

[Rawnjohnson]

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Night and day from those easy touch

How do these compare to the BD ultrafine II, if you’ve tried them? I’ll definitely pick up a box of these to compare. I’m always looking for a better pin.

 

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U

How do these compare to the BD ultrafine II, if you’ve tried them? I’ll definitely pick up a box of these to compare. I’m always looking for a better pin.

Ultra fine are comparable. That place I order from though the shipping for me is insane. My stuff always lands in like 24 hours. They don’t do a PO Box though.

 

[Rawnjohnson]

U

Ultra fine are comparable. That place I order from though the shipping for me is insane. My stuff always lands in like 24 hours. They don’t do a PO Box though.

Appreciate. These are a lot cheaper than the ultrafine too. I’ll pick up a box of each size I use.

 

[riggspersonal]

This is super old school, but there was a study on type 1 diabetics who used to inject WAY more frequently than any GLP1 karens or tiktok peptide bro's

They would typically use the same needle for 6 injections on average

To clarify: 6 times piercing the insulin vial and 6 times being injected, the same pin

They reported no discomfort or infections; just did it for convenience (nothing to do with price or saving a buck)

Have you personally tried though lol? Twice doesn't feel great

 

[Matty_G]

Interesting. What would the protocol be for using insulin syringes then if the needle is already destroyed from piercing the vial once?

The practice with insulin needles from a multi vial is pierced vial and with the same needle you pierce the skin. Many hospitals have moved away from multi use insulin vials and switched over to the pens with the one time use needles. When your pierce SQ though it’s very easy to pierce skin even if you punctured the vial first because the needle is very fine and short. IM on the other hand the first pierce into the vial already dulls the needle head making the second piece into to your skin which can make injection not as smooth penetration and also increased tissue trauma. . We use blunt tip needles to pierce vials and the unscrew the blunt tip and replace with injection needle of choice.

 

[k710]

The practice with insulin needles from a multi vial is pierced vial and with the same needle you pierce the skin. Many hospitals have moved away from multi use insulin vials and switched over to the pens with the one time use needles. When your pierce SQ though it’s very easy to pierce skin even if you punctured the vial first because the needle is very fine and short. IM on the other hand the first pierce into the vial already dulls the needle head making the second piece into to your skin which can make injection not as smooth penetration and also increased tissue trauma. . We use blunt tip needles to pierce vials and the unscrew the blunt tip and replace with injection needle of choice.

Yeah my friends on the transplant list and has been diabetic most of her life. She rocks the dexcom and has a long cartridge thing that she loads into a stainless looking syringe holder. Im almost 100% positive she pops on a needle for the whole day (havent seen her tossing the little catridge replacement needles) and just pins when her dexcom alerts her. I dont think ive ever seen anyone actually have insulin in vials irl, always in preloaded cartridges. I havent seen her change the needle once though. But like Matty_G pointed out above, they are only going into the skin. Not tearing through muscle fibers

 

[nullandvoid]

I've hit the same insulin syringe upwards of 20 times (500mcg doses of a 10mg vial of MT2) countless times over the years. Never an issue. Yea, by the end I'm essentially puncturing skin with a blunt needle, but I'm dealing with worn out leather anyway. What I don't do is reuse anything dealing with IM. Those are one-and-done. Subcutaneous, though? No problem. Never a single problem aside from compound-specific irritation like from MOTS-C. Don't even site prep with alcohol pads for subcutaneous. IM gets the full treatment, though.

 

[riggspersonal]

you're piercing your skin with the same insulin needle 20x? that is absolutely fuggin nuts.

 

[crispybacon!]

Further: no offense to all of Meso but the line between harm reduction and bubble boy syndrome is becoming blurry at times

Those T1Ds would reuse the same pin multiple times and stick the damn thing straight through their shirt, literally

No alcohol swab, probably a dirty shirt, and who the fuck knows what else

Also: no infections, no discomfort, and they've been doing it for decades

I understand the counter-argument: "maybe they didn't lose an ass cheek the next day, but what about 20 years later when they have sore joints or forgot where they put their keys? That could've been due to non-aseptic injection technique; inflammatory particles building up over time"

OK. Whatever. I'm not injecting with the same pin 6 times through clothing but I'm not living my life like a bubble boy.

and anyway, I don't think there's any legitimacy to that counter-argument otherwise every retired bodybuilder would be functionally retarded

To each their own. For me the choice is pretty easy, especially when the difference is literally pocket change. Not reusing needles is quantifiably more sterile and less painful.

 

[sorprenda]

It seems like it is more than a little different doing a shallow subq injection using a tiny insulin needle which barely pierces the skin to inject a water-based compound that quickly disperses, vs deeply inject an oil which might absorb very slowly in a depot for days, creating a breeding ground for bacteria.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

I don’t understand yall trying to justify reusing needles, reguardless if it’s subq or IM. Shits cheap, use a new needle for each pin smh

 

[MisterT]

I don’t understand yall trying to justify reusing needles, reguardless if it’s subq or IM. Shits cheap, use a new needle for each pin smh

Bunch of broke junkies