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[Andrewthatguy]

Tirz or reta i get down 18lbs and then as soon as i go from 120mg of test a week to 250 with 250 tren i gain 18lbs....

I’m on 300 Tren and am fucking shredding up like a motherfucker WEEKLY while getting stronger.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

So I haven't been on here in awhile but wanted to share my recent experiences with Primal. For starters, I was a big fan of his oils and caps. I've probably done about 5 orders with him going back to his first few weeks on here. I've run his EQ, Test Cyp, Enan. Prop. Und. I've also run his MENT, Tren E and A, NPP and still have a couple bottles of his Deca for a rainy day. As for his caps I've used 3 bottles of his Anadrol 25, Sdrol, Dbol, Adex and Nolva. Prior to my most recent order the only issue I had was his green caps smudging when alcohol swab hit it. No big deal. I was happy and recommended him to a buddy.

Then on my last order the wheels came off. After a few uses I began noticing stoppers coring out with ease. Floating rubber bits began showing up in my oils and it wasn't just one. I have bottles with multiple visible rubber chunks now floating around in the oil. Which explains the absolutely debilitating pip and mild infection I got in my glute last month. I very rarely get pip, even with Test C. After that injection I had a swollen glute and the entire area of injection was rock hard for a week. It was a miserable experience. I can only assume a piece of micro rubber invisible to the naked eye made it into the syringe before the larger chunks started appearing in the bottle. As a result I have to toss like 5 bottle of oil. All of which are roughly 70 to 80% full. On top of all that, a bottle of Nolvadex I purchased from him in late September essentially melted and became completely discolored. Yet another product of his I now have to toss. The Nolva was stored in the same place as all my other tabs. It's dark and dry on the top shelf of my kitchen cabinet. The weird thing is I have 5 bottles of his caps in the same cabinet but only the Nolva changed color and the capsule essentially melted.

It's disappointing because he was a solid and reliable domestic source since the summer. Idk if he got too big too soon amd got overwhelmed with order from the Tik Tok clown brigade and Reddit cumts, or if it's as simple as he made a poor choice in choosing which rubber stoppers to use. Either way, I have to think long and hard about ordering from him any time soon. I want to give him the benefit of doubt but the Nolva is tougher to explain away. Especially since it was stored alongside the rest of his caps as well as in the same manner I've stored tabs and caps for almost 20yrs without anything like that ever happening.

What’s causing this comment to appear boxed in red? Does anyone have any insight?

 

[Ateam2023]

What’s causing this comment to appear boxed in red? Does anyone have any insight?

Yeah you're products are causing potential harm and this is a harm reduction forum, the possibility of harm from your product set off the moderator disapproval, bits of stopper floating in oil causing problems and also melting capsules is obviously not harm reduction, and potential harm to the end user. @Millard do you want to inform this vendor why that message flagged the "Red Box" message??

 

[powdered_toast_man]

Tirz or reta i get down 18lbs and then as soon as i go from 120mg of test a week to 250 with 250 tren i gain 18lbs....

yea that's my experience. my weight still see-saws on it. but i attribute maintaing my bf% over the last 3 years to reta, because I definitely became more loose with my food choices than I had been for the previous 10 years.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Soooo we good? Another concern every day here and i have test e, c, mast and tren im waiting to blast Mayish.... someone tell me stfu and pin it?

it's the same shit we've been injecting since forever; it's just not 100% MCT

 

[Primal_Pharma]

it's the same shit we've been injecting since forever; it's just not 100% MCT

Ours IS 100% MCT, brother. GCMS proves that - I think @AIRBORNE DADDY is referring to our products whereas you were referring to the Pharma Test Cyp. Correct me if I am wrong

 

[powdered_toast_man]

Dude I’m serious though. Where?

Haha well in that case, this is some of the darker tren e that QSC used to give out. its good stuff. I just hate how I have to filter every vial bc the stoppers are such shit.

speaking of whicj, I never had a floater in anything from primal yet and I only have stuff with the old stoppers. just the green wipes off a bit when swabbing.

 

[powdered_toast_man]

I’m on 300 Tren and am fucking shredding up like a motherfucker WEEKLY while getting stronger.

When you already bench 500lbs, you don't keep getting stronger weekly while dieting on 300mg of tren anymore unless you are literally John Haack from 5 years ago

 

[Dial It In]

Yeah you're products are causing potential harm and this is a harm reduction forum, the possibility of harm from your product set off the moderator disapproval, bits of stopper floating in oil causing problems and also melting capsules is obviously not harm reduction, and potential harm to the end user. @Millard do you want to inform this vendor why that message flagged the "Red Box" message??

Yep new feature that allows members to identify potential issues. Think that’s actually the second one in this thread. Few other changes too in here that sources might want to go read up on. All out there to read in plain sight.

 

[k710]

Yep new feature that allows members to identify potential issues. Think that’s actually the second one in this thread. Few other changes too in here that sources might want to go read up on. All out there to read in plain sight.

Interesting, I was wondering why I was seeing those randomly in threads... Thought I accidentally clicked some setting or that my browser was tweaking lol

Goode to know. Noticed the tab at the top of the page for "highlighted post". Nifty. Ill have to go read up on the mechanics, thanks for pointing it out!

 

[BigKuntryKing]

Is the list updated?

 

[MESO-Rx Administrator]

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Reminder to keep discussion in this thread focused on source-relevant information such as accountability, testing, and documented experiences. Staying on topic helps ensure important details remain visible and supports the harm-reduction purpose of source threads.

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[MissedArmDay66]

Yeah you're products are causing potential harm and this is a harm reduction forum, the possibility of harm from your product set off the moderator disapproval, bits of stopper floating in oil causing problems and also melting capsules is obviously not harm reduction, and potential harm to the end user. @Millard do you want to inform this vendor why that message flagged the "Red Box" message??

Since you brought up harm reduction, seems like the issue at hand here could be easily mitigated by users actually practicing harm reduction by filtering ugl oil into a sterile vial instead of assuming your drug dealer has your best interest in mind and is using all the best supplies in their process. Personally i don’t care if it’s from China or a trusted domestic ugl. It all gets filtered before it gets used by me, and that’s after it gets tested, by me or one of a handful of local friends i have that have gear from same batch (ordered together at same time).

 

[Ateam2023]

[MOD NOTICE]

Reminder to keep discussion in this thread focused on source-relevant information such as accountability, testing, and documented experiences. Staying on topic helps ensure important details remain visible and supports the harm-reduction purpose of source threads.

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Why don't you tell him what the Redbox message means?

 

[Andrewthatguy]

When you already bench 500lbs, you don't keep getting stronger weekly while dieting on 300mg of tren anymore unless you are literally John Haack from 5 years ago

Dude is taking about fat loss. He is taking Tren and not losing fat. That is 100% user error and nothing else. It is nothing other a shit diet. Tren is the god of shredding

 

[k710]

Why don't you tell him what the Redbox message means?

I actually just spend a few minutes trying to find information about this red box warning and surprisingly have still not been able to find a statement about it. What mod posted above is in the forums FAQ, but didnt see any mention of highlighting posts red, what crateria qualifies a red box or how can users flag potentional harm posts, or how they get logged/corrected/validated or who has burden of proof in the case? Id assume both member and vendor? Aside from ToS/help/Privacy policy tabs at the bottom of the site, I also searched the forums and only found one post basically asking the same thing.

I could very easily be missing it so any links/info would be greatly appreciated

 

[Photon]

Why don't you tell him what the Redbox message means?

Source threads move too quickly and issues get buried or ignored. Potential issues seems to be given a red box (?)

At the top of the page I see a filter option, seems to be buggy, but it does filter out all posts except the red ones? It doesn't seem to work well tho lol

I would assume the goal is for users to be able to quickly filter out all non relevant talk and to see what are the potential issues of each source without having to go through 5 pages of people asking how do you place an order.

(That's how I see it)

 

[KOArtist]

Aye yooo I thought this was me lmaoooo

Mine is meaner bro! Haha

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Mine is meaner bro! Haha

I like it! LOL

Source threads move too quickly and issues get buried or ignored. Potential issues seems to be given a red box (?)

At the top of the page I see a filter option, seems to be buggy, but it does filter out all posts except the red ones? It doesn't seem to work well tho lol

I would assume the goal is for users to be able to quickly filter out all non relevant talk and to see what are the potential issues of each source without having to go through 5 pages of people asking how do you place an order.

(That's how I see it)

I like the concept, but without evidence it’s hard to take the red flags seriously. And if we’re going that route, highlighting positive feedback with green boxes would make it a lot more balanced. Can’t have the good without the bad!

Just my opinion.

 

[Ateam2023]

I actually just spend a few minutes trying to find information about this red box warning and surprisingly have still not been able to find a statement about it. What mod posted above is in the forums FAQ, but didnt see any mention of highlighting posts red, what crateria qualifies a red box or how can users flag potentional harm posts, or how they get logged/corrected/validated or who has burden of proof in the case? Id assume both member and vendor? Aside from ToS/help/Privacy policy tabs at the bottom of the site, I also searched the forums and only found one post basically asking the same thing.

I could very easily be missing it so any links/info would be greatly appreciated

Message @Millard he's the one that started the red box theme, i just remember reading about it somewhere , can't remember where to be honest ,