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So many questions/unknowns compared to other sources.

Shits easily solvable, lock up shop. Answer questions, test all raws, and all oils before putting them up for sale.
 
So many questions/unknowns compared to other sources.

Shits easily solvable, lock up shop. Answer questions, test all raws, and all oils before putting them up for sale.
I don't agree personally, but you're not wrong. I think its Primal's business to manage and some of his customers don't care.

Shutting up shop generally isn't a great growth business plan, and neither is not having product available. How to reconcile the current market conditions and demand/supply against the meso customer risk profiles is where the balancing act gets complex. There are likely lots of individual views on that balance, including your about shutting shop (which would have cost and time implications), mine (which doesn't mitigate risks and puts onus and testing lead time on customers) and a whole load of other perspective.

For me, i'd like transparency and confidence of what i know, and of what i don't know so i can make decisions as to what to take for granted and what i might or might not send to jano based on the risk and knowledge i'll not be out of pocket financially.
 
I don't agree personally, but you're not wrong. I think its Primal's business to manage and some of his customers don't care.

Shutting up shop generally isn't a great growth business plan, and neither is not having product available. How to reconcile the current market conditions and demand/supply against the meso customer risk profiles is where the balancing act gets complex. There are likely lots of individual views on that balance, including your about shutting shop (which would have cost and time implications), mine (which doesn't mitigate risks and puts onus and testing lead time on customers) and a whole load of other perspective.

For me, i'd like transparency and confidence of what i know, and of what i don't know so i can make decisions as to what to take for granted and what i might or might not send to jano based on the risk and knowledge i'll not be out of pocket financially.
I can understand that. I guess you don't have to close up shop completely, but the lines with question should absolutely be put on hold. I don't think it's too hard to ask for full testing to be completed before putting something on sale. I maybe wrong but wasn't his test sip sold out before the testing even came back? As far as the business aspect though, the market is here clearly and it's not going anywhere.
 
I don't think it's too hard to ask for full testing to be completed before putting something on sale.
Its not too hard, just impacts lead times and maybe costs, i think there have been instances in this thread though where its even been asked if customers wanted it launched early for specific products and the buyers have wanted it launched ASAP. I don't think i'm imagining it, but maybe it was another vendor.

My take would be, if it's set out as the expectation, it should be done.
 
Its not too hard, just impacts lead times and maybe costs, i think there have been instances in this thread though where its even been asked if customers wanted it launched early for specific products and the buyers have wanted it launched ASAP. I don't think i'm imagining it, but maybe it was another vendor.

My take would be, if it's set out as the expectation, it should be done.
I think the final answer here is that if you want it it before testing is back- buy it

If you don't- then wait.

Some people want/need certain compounds asap and if they feel confident that primal will get it close enough without seeing testing...... buy it

If you aren't in a hurry and want testing.... wait for the testing
 
And if the rest came back jacked up would they refund everyone? How would they do further testing it's all gone
Regardless of whether its right or wrong or what anyone thinks it's just the market right now. People will buy anything. You either buy or sit out and wait for everything to recover.
 
Fuckin impossible to follow this source thread. Since earlier the same goddamn morning there’s 20 new pages. I’m trying to wait for testing results but FUCKthat I’m just going to buy and send it
 
And if the rest came back jacked up would they refund everyone? How would they do further testing it's all gone

So they can sell all of their inventory without testing, but are still willing to pay for the testing to be done....

Nice
Maybe. None of this seems so strange. Easy to pay for testing for a customer if is builds trust in the product long term. It's a healthy policy.

Another vendor today is having feedback on a vial from february and planning how to make people good. It's tragic when it happens, but vendors can have complete confidence in their products and make big guarantees.

Another big test is how they follow through and make good when they're wrong.

There's still room for transparency though. What is P10?
 
Fuckin impossible to follow this source thread. Since earlier the same goddamn morning there’s 20 new pages. I’m trying to wait for testing results but FUCKthat I’m just going to buy and send it
Some results got posted today. Probably 10 pages back lol. Just search primals responses only
 
I think the final answer here is that if you want it it before testing is back- buy it

If you don't- then wait.

Some people want/need certain compounds asap and if they feel confident that primal will get it close enough without seeing testing...... buy it

If you aren't in a hurry and want testing.... wait for the testing
How many people *really* need any of this stuff that fast? I’ve said it before, it doesn’t make good business sense to sell before testing. I think we’re witnessing some of the issues associated with that “strategy”. Nobody’s gonna say “fuck this guy, he insists on testing his stuff before selling”. And if they do, they’re probably better served buying China oils.
 
Maybe. None of this seems so strange. Easy to pay for testing for a customer if is builds trust in the product long term. It's a healthy policy.

Another vendor today is having feedback on a vial from february and planning how to make people good. It's tragic when it happens, but vendors can have complete confidence in their products and make big guarantees.

Another big test is how they follow through and make good when they're wrong.

There's still room for transparency though. What is P10?
Ya he cleaned the issue up perfectly well
 
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