MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.

(2) Primo - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China Primo for US Dom prices.

(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.

(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.

(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment.

(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.

(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.

(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)
Daily Bump of this with added NPP china oil as (9) now
 
These are the inherent risks one must accept when using UGL gear. Yes, things could be better and some of the other sources on this board have better.
Exactly my point. “In the past”. Well this isn’t meso 7 years ago. This is meso now. You want clean gear stop using bathtub brew or brew your own.

What other sources are good? Name one you would approve of…

Meso 7 years ago was the point I was making. There’s a better standard we should be going by not what’s happening now.
You must be shilling for this dude. Yes I bringing back the old lingo too. Lol
 
Welcome to the forum and thank you for your contribution.
Well I can clearly see he’s contributed more since September than you have in 8 years. Instead of protecting sources why don’t you try doing something that’s gonna benefit everyone including the new guys.
 
Gents - very informative last couple pages but I think it really comes down to this.

These are the inherent risks one must accept when using UGL gear. Yes, things could be better and some of the other sources on this board have better QC but also much lower clientele. The question is, how much of a risk are you willing to accept?

If everyone wants flawless gear they would be brewing themselves or enjoying the valleys of 100mg pharma test every two weeks.

I do think primal has a good thing going but we need more transparency and maybe hiring another representative to post on their behalf might help.
Are you smoking crack?
 
shit like this makes me realize how much money there is in clinics. eventually people are gonna get sick of this shit, especially if you’re only taking test sometimes it’s like man wtf am i doing here. thought it was usa brewed at the minimum.
 
I think itd be best if ppl just accept what primal is and stop wasting energy trying to fix a broken record. They are most likely just reselling, yelling at clouds like old men isnt gonna change anything.
 
You sound delusional..what better QC? You're buying Chinese gear marketed as US brewed gear.
This is news to me. The only resold CN gear we ever carried was Primo 100 (P11). Everything else, including the most recent Primo and the rest of our lineup, has been brewed in house using the highest grade MCT (812) and pure GSO.

@Photon I respect your knowledge and experience, but at this point it’s just confusing people. Most of them don’t even understand what’s being said anymore. Nice!
 
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I don’t understand why a source just doesn’t say hey this particular anabolic…. “I’m reselling” we didn’t brew it….
The only thing we ever resold was Primo 100 (P11). Everything since then has been brewed in house.

Testing and tighter batch control are things we’re actively working on. We want to add QR codes tied to Jano tests for each specific sub-batch inside a batch, so you’ll see something like P001-A, P001-B and know exactly which raw source and test it corresponds to. Volumetric flasks are rolling out in mid-February to tighten things further.

We hear the criticism. What the loud minority doesn’t understand is that at this scale, this stuff takes time. This is one of the toughest periods to be a source, and we’re still doing a solid job keeping prices affordable and inventory filled.

If someone wants a boutique, ultra-low-volume shop, that’s fine, but it’s going to cost more. We move real numbers, and at this level it’s impossible to make everyone happy overnight. This shit takes time, and most people can’t even follow a thread properly, let alone run a UGL at this level.

People also need to keep in mind that there are other parties with competing interests clearly in this thread every day and actively trying to sabotage us. That context matters.
 
This is news to me. The only resold CN gear we ever carried was Primo 100m(P11). Everything else, including the most recent Primo and the rest of our lineup, has been brewed in house using the highest grade MCT (812) and pure GSO.

@Photon I respect your knowledge and experience, but at this point it’s just confusing people. Most of them don’t even understand what’s being said anymore. Nice!

No problem.
I shall explain further.
For any who do not understand, please tag me.

The key characteristic of CN oils is not EO.
It is the fact they do NOT use pure MCT oils.

The marker to look out for is Hexa and Octa acid components which are vegetable oil components, It is different vendor to vendor, batch to batch, product to product, but they always exist.

Below you can find 5 GCMS reports of CN vendor oils, all showing the existing of MCT mixed with Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid components.

WWB: Janoshik Analytical
SSA: Janoshik Analytical
PUCA: Janoshik Analytical
MuscleCandy CN Primo: Janoshik Analytical
Primal CN Primo: Janoshik Analytical

This is Primal's NPP, brewed in pure MCT, when he first opened shop.
No Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic components, just pure MCT, solvents(BA/BB) and AAS (NPP). This is the expectation of every US Dom brewer using MCT oil only.
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And this is the 3rd party GCMS of Primal's NPP..
Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid components are now present, highlighted in yellow.
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Items 8,9,10,11,13,15,17,19,20,22,23,24 are crossed out in red, as mentioned in the commentary above.
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And this is the 3rd party GCMS of Primal's NPP..
Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid components are now present, highlighted in yellow.
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Items 8,9,10,11,13,15,17,19,20,22,23,24 are crossed out in red, as mentioned in the commentary above.
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This is impossible. NPP isn’t a big seller for us, so there was never any pressure to keep up with demand or resell third-party oils. I know for a fact the only thing ever resold was Primo P11. This is clearly an attempt to stir things up and sabotage.
 
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