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jpe1
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Daily Bump of this with added NPP china oil as (9) nowI'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.
Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.
(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.
primals test undecanoate, pretty consistent....
(2) Primo - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China Primo for US Dom prices.
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(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.
(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.
(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment.
(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.
(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.
(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)
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So you sent it..waited for results..then apparently did not send it and now have a new batch you are sending out?
TRT
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What other sources are good? Name one you would approve of…
Meso 7 years ago was the point I was making. There’s a better standard we should be going by not what’s happening now.
You must be shilling for this dude. Yes I bringing back the old lingo too. Lol
TRT
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Well I can clearly see he’s contributed more since September than you have in 8 years. Instead of protecting sources why don’t you try doing something that’s gonna benefit everyone including the new guys.
TheMoto
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Are you smoking crack?
just some dude
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shit like this makes me realize how much money there is in clinics. eventually people are gonna get sick of this shit, especially if you’re only taking test sometimes it’s like man wtf am i doing here. thought it was usa brewed at the minimum.
TRT
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Smoking crack would be safer. Lol
monster8912
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I think itd be best if ppl just accept what primal is and stop wasting energy trying to fix a broken record. They are most likely just reselling, yelling at clouds like old men isnt gonna change anything.
This is news to me. The only resold CN gear we ever carried was Primo 100 (P11). Everything else, including the most recent Primo and the rest of our lineup, has been brewed in house using the highest grade MCT (812) and pure GSO.
@Photon I respect your knowledge and experience, but at this point it’s just confusing people. Most of them don’t even understand what’s being said anymore. Nice!
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The only thing we ever resold was Primo 100 (P11). Everything since then has been brewed in house.
Testing and tighter batch control are things we’re actively working on. We want to add QR codes tied to Jano tests for each specific sub-batch inside a batch, so you’ll see something like P001-A, P001-B and know exactly which raw source and test it corresponds to. Volumetric flasks are rolling out in mid-February to tighten things further.
We hear the criticism. What the loud minority doesn’t understand is that at this scale, this stuff takes time. This is one of the toughest periods to be a source, and we’re still doing a solid job keeping prices affordable and inventory filled.
If someone wants a boutique, ultra-low-volume shop, that’s fine, but it’s going to cost more. We move real numbers, and at this level it’s impossible to make everyone happy overnight. This shit takes time, and most people can’t even follow a thread properly, let alone run a UGL at this level.
People also need to keep in mind that there are other parties with competing interests clearly in this thread every day and actively trying to sabotage us. That context matters.
Photon
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No problem.
I shall explain further.
For any who do not understand, please tag me.
The key characteristic of CN oils is not EO.
It is the fact they do NOT use pure MCT oils.
The marker to look out for is Hexa and Octa acid components which are vegetable oil components, It is different vendor to vendor, batch to batch, product to product, but they always exist.
Below you can find 5 GCMS reports of CN vendor oils, all showing the existing of MCT mixed with Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid components.
WWB: Janoshik Analytical
SSA: Janoshik Analytical
PUCA: Janoshik Analytical
MuscleCandy CN Primo: Janoshik Analytical
Primal CN Primo: Janoshik Analytical
This is Primal's NPP, brewed in pure MCT, when he first opened shop.
No Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic components, just pure MCT, solvents(BA/BB) and AAS (NPP). This is the expectation of every US Dom brewer using MCT oil only.
And this is the 3rd party GCMS of Primal's NPP..
Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid components are now present, highlighted in yellow.
Items 8,9,10,11,13,15,17,19,20,22,23,24 are crossed out in red, as mentioned in the commentary above.
Test prop seems to have it too..
This is impossible. NPP isn’t a big seller for us, so there was never any pressure to keep up with demand or resell third-party oils. I know for a fact the only thing ever resold was Primo P11. This is clearly an attempt to stir things up and sabotage.
Photon
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Did he contact you for credit?
You happily claimed the results as yours and now you say it's a sabotage..
I didn't see the GCMS report.Did he contact you for credit?
You happily claimed the results as yours and now you say it's a sabotage..
I know for a fact that it can't even be accidentally true regarding the GCMS because no CN oils besides Primo has ever stepped foot in our facility.
Photon
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I cant help you there..
I only interpreted what he posted..that's over 1k spent in testing costs.
I get that, and I’m not calling you or him a liar at all. I genuinely think he believes what he’s posting.
I’m just being straight when I say this is literally impossible on our end. It couldn’t happen intentionally or accidentally, there’s no scenario where we could have CN oils besides that one Primo P11, enter our workflow. Makes zero sense.
I’m not trying to deflect or shift blame here, which I know I have in the past. I’m just stating, very VERY plainly, that this one makes absolute zero sense.
Dial It In
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Jano is in on the sabotage lol
No no. There has to be something else. This one makes ZERO sense.
Would it be possible that a less refined MCT could possibly still have Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid in it? I really appreciate your investment for harm reduction @Photon truly i am learning a lot from you and in no way see this as an attack or defending primal but i'm wondering about the quality of the "pure MCT" being used. It doesn't explain the doseage variance tho which really needs to be tighter. If this doesn't make sense disregard because i'm no chemist nor have the experience
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